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The 5th Epoch

The earth looks like a spoiled child’s room after a birthday party sleepover; toys are strewn, clothes are laying on the floor, spilled drinks and stale food are ground into the carpet, broken pieces of new toys are mixed with the leftovers of now melted ice cream blended into cake crumbs, party favors and wrapping paper are scattered everywhere and even the parents have left town, or so we think. There is no one left to clean up.

Wait . . .

If I am looking at this scene and I see the mess, I must be the one left to clean.

That doesn’t seem fair, I wasn’t even invited to the party.

Or was I?

That is how we find ourselves as we begin Epoch 5. We have made a mess of Epoch 4 and we are bringing our behaviors of disregard to our new way. But we shall not be able to live this way for long. Putting off the cleaning or deciding it is someone else’s responsibility will end in disaster.

Epoch 5, our new era, brings with it some quite astounding potentials wrapped in the monumental effort required to shed the psychological and spiritually induced trappings of the past, the trappings, through which our societies encourage us to see ourselves as the center of the universe. Epoch 5 proves we are not! The real work of Epoch 5 is in coming to terms with that reality; that is our first duty. Cleaning up the mess will be our second.

Each Epoch of our planet brings us to an enhanced ability to comprehend the offering we call life. Each Epoch is a phase in our growth in planetary culture and status. Each enables us to see further into the eternal distance and receive through that vision, greater concepts of hope, enhanced expressions of love, more realistic appreciations of truth, beauty and goodness and an overall higher sense of purpose in everything we are and expect to become.

It is assumed that we would not be ushered into a new Epoch until we had, both individually and collectively finished the previous growth expectations placed upon us as a condition of that Epoch, but here we are; out of step. We have received the Creator Son of the Universe, yet we have not adopted his life plan. In fact, we as a planet still don’t know his plan. After 2000 years his message has yet to be explained in a meaningful enough way to become the standard of living for humankind. It has yet to be lived. Epoch 5 changes that.

The following child-like story may help to explain this issue; the difference between Epoch 4 and Epoch 5.

Epoch Five

The Beginning,
and the End of Epoch Four.

Part 1

There once was a land that sat at the base of two majestic yet mysterious mountain ranges. I guess you could say this land was a long valley with mountain ranges on both sides. These ranges of mountains were so tall that the top of each of them was cloaked in the clouds nearly all the time. Because of this overbearing cloud cover, no one had ever actually climbed either mountain. They all feared climbing into the unknown.

At least that was the common thought among the valley residents. Stories had been told from times long past, regarding a tradition. Some said was it only a dream, but the tradition was that a young man many generations before, had actually climbed the mountain, in fact, as the story goes, he climbed the tallest of them all, and he had climbed all the way to the top. The story went on explaining how he described the wonderful lands beyond the mountains and how much more rich and full the valley dwellers lives would be if only they were to discover the simple joy of climbing the mountains. Over time the villagers began to dis-believe their traditions about this lone climber but there were still some who would not give up the idea.

One day some brave men and women from this group who would not give up the idea, gathered at the foot of the tallest most dramatic of the mountains. These villagers decided to make an attempt to prove whether the tradition was true history or merely a dream. So, they met to discuss and strategize a plan to ascend the mountain. You see, one person had been inspired to come up with the idea which he shared with others until he gathered a group of those who thought themselves brave enough to follow his idea.

The plan was simple; they would develop a plan and attempt to climb the mountain, if it was possible. They weren’t sure, but they wanted to find out. They called themselves, “New Mountain Climbers”. Since nobody else had ever climbed it to the top, except maybe the one of tradition, most villagers didn’t believe it could be done.

Now, there was another group of villagers who believed the rumor that one person had actually climbed it but held to a part of the rumor that the one who had climbed had said he would come back some day and that he would provide a way to transport all who truly believed in the rumor, to the top. But, to most villagers, the idea that one person could carry all the rest was so preposterous this group remained rather small in number.

The villagers that did choose to believe this dream actually had decided to do little but wait for it to happen. This group called themselves “Those Faithful in Waiting”.

But since most of the common folk from the village did not believe it was possible to climb the mountain at all, except maybe in theory, the groups of “Those Faithful in Waiting” and “New Mountain Climbers” were outcasts from normal valley life.

In spite of it all, this group who called themselves “New Mountain Climbers” counted themselves worthy to make the attempt to climb. So, they met at the bottom of the mountain in what they called “base camp” and started to actually plan their climb. As they began to talk among themselves, a strange thing happened. The longer the group of climbers sat in the base camp tent and discussed the plan, the more they discovered that they didn’t really know how to climb, and they found, because of this, they had much, very much to discuss. What would they do if they got to the first outcropping where the large rocks stuck out and even from the base they could tell the climbing would be so very dangerous? Also, how would they deal with the ever-changing weather? What if there was a rock slide? If they ever got to the part that was always in the clouds, what if they couldn’t see? How would they find their way back? The traditions that had been repeated about the original mountain climber said that there would be an unmistakable trail and that there were some unseen helpers that they could count on, though no one really knew what that meant, but what if that whole story wasn’t true, what would they do then? How would they know what route to take? Questions like these troubled them greatly, so they sat and talked and talked and argued and argued, all about the best way to climb the mountain. Some attempted to remind the group how the one who had actually climbed it had done it. You see there was a book of stories about the original climber that was written by some villagers who were apparently alive at the time that provided a simple record, but even that didn’t seem to instill enough confidence that they could begin a real climb.

Well, they continued to discuss these things until a year went by. Then another year went by and another and another and another until a generation had passed. The simple book of historical memories was re-written again and again. Each time it was, it took on a greater sense of its importance. As it was put it into a more common language for the later times, a new expectation of its value was expressed by the New Mountain Climbers to help describe what the group could remember of tales long forgotten or barely remembered, of the few attempts to climb the mountain.

But, every so often one or another villager would undertake an independent though halfhearted effort to begin a climb. They were always unsuccessful. The more often that happened, the more convinced others were that the mountain could not be climbed. But, each time someone tried, their story was added to the book so throughout all history any success at all was added to the book. The more it was re-written the more difficult it became to tell the tale of how the one who had climbed it had actually done it.

The sons and daughters of these brave “New Mountain Climbers” eventually joined in the discussions and gradually took them over. Then another generation did the same, then another, then another.
After many generations, no one even remembered that the “New Mountain Climbers” group had been started by a small group of seemingly brave mountain climbers and gradually their purpose evolved into something altogether different. The group’s purpose changed into one of waiting for the one who had actually climbed to come back and show them how, or even to carry them to the top. They even began to call themselves “Brave Followers of the One Climber” rather than “New Mountain Climbers”.

But another thing happened as well. Because this group had studied mountain climbing for so long, they began to believe that they were the only ones who were officially allowed to teach climbing. In time, they became so convinced that they were appointed keepers of the path up the mountain that they refused to allow anyone who was not in their group to even attempt a climb.

So, no one did.

For generations nobody ever really climbed the mountain.

Every so often one or more would get tired of waiting and would actually attempt the climb but they were always ridiculed and harassed as they attempted even the lowest levels where they could be seen from the village and the Official Base Camp. Sometimes they called down from the lower points on the mountain where they got stuck or had trouble only to have the “Followers” call them down. They were criticized as being unfit for climbing and their paths were made fun of. After all, who were they to think they had what it took to climb for real? Eventually even these few quit and returned to base camp. For generations all was quiet on the mountain. You see the theory developed that only those who had studied climbing at the Base Camp schools were suitable to be the true “Brave Followers of the One Climber”. Fear of ridicule had kept many who thought they might try from actually doing it so for years and years no one tried.

PART 2

Many years and even generations later, another book suddenly appeared in the village. It was a book that described what one could see from the top of the mountain and how each villager of every village could make the climb if they simply chose to. Included in this book were details of the kinds of things one could expect along the way. It also described the life of the original climber who had actually made it the first time. The “Brave Followers of the Climber” in the base camp tent and the “Those Faithful in Waiting” both became incensed when they discovered this book and immediately and vehemently announced that it was a fraud. How could it be that someone would attempt to be so arrogant as to write a book describing something nobody was able to do since the original climber? After all, these two groups of “Faithful Followers” had devoted their whole lives to learning how to climb and this new book had been written without anyone even discussing it with them; not to mention that no one even asked them for their help or approval? They had devoted their lives to studying the art of climbing and had built great institutions of learning and practice to teach others how to know how to climb. They knew they were the official “Faithful Followers” therefore the new book must be a fraud.

But you see, this new book was written by the assistants to the original climber and at his request. These assistants were unique, they were invisible to the valley dwellers. These assistants, though, lived equally in the realm of the villages and their purpose was to be helpers of the original and real climber. Since they were helpers the villagers could not see, but most villagers didn’t believe existed, no one expected to be assisted in climbing. But had the villagers ever really climbed, they would have discovered these helpers just as the original climber had said they would. This new book was so exquisitely and deeply written and so intricately detailed that many villagers weren’t unable to understand it. Most villagers, especially those who had no intention of climbing would even attempt to read it. But some did. They immediately discovered that the words made more sense and explained the art of climbing in more detail than anything they had ever seen. Gradually a wonderful thing happened. Small groups of villagers formed with the intent to read the book together and learn how to climb. Some got very good at the practice of knowing how to climb and were able to show others how to know how to climb. As these groups got better and better at knowing the art of climbing, another gradual transformation happened. Villagers again became complacent and decided that learning how to climb was the true goal, even of the new book and, as well, the true goal of the original climber. Only, again, as before, no one really climbed. After thousands of years, the mountain still had only been climbed all the way by one individual and it had only one set of tracks.

Then one day a lone villager was personally visited by an agent of the original climber and was both challenged and inspired to climb. This villager had never read the “Climbers” first book or even the new book that had appeared in the village but just accepted the original climber’s challenge to climb to see what was on top. When he did, the original climber had his helpers reveal the view from the top as an insight to keep him climbing when things got tough. So, climb he did. After just a short time climbing, he discovered the original tracks of the first climber and received an inspiration from one of the original climber’s invisible helpers. He made a promise to himself that he would climb to the top, no matter what or how long it took, even if it took him his whole life. A few years later this villager discovered that there were others who had been inspired to climb from other villages. How amazed they were to discover each other and tell stories of their climbing adventures. Some of this group decided to return to the base to inform the villagers that there was a way to climb and the view from the mountain was fantastic. The other climbers who stayed on the mountain climbed on and on facing all sorts of challenges and troubles along the way. As tales of their success reached the villages, others in the valley became inspired to climb and after a while there were many villagers climbing. Every time these real climbers faced a new challenge the original climber would send some inspirational assistance to them through his unseen helpers, making the way clear so they could continue. Gradually they realized that the original climber had told the villagers he would do that but only for those who actually climbed the mountain. These things were written in the first book and in the second book as well.

PART 3

One day while climbing way up in the clouds where he couldn’t see, a climber caught a glimpse through a break in the clouds, of the path ahead. To his astonishment, the path was nearly flat, more like a quiet path on a gently rolling countryside. And the land ahead was not mountainous it was lush and green and filled with fruit trees and it appeared to go on and on to the horizon. He discovered that he was not on a mountain top, he was on what looked like a lush rolling prairie and woods. These first climbers arriving on top thought the land looked like heaven. They immediately called to those who were climbing and made it clear that there was nothing on the top of the mountain to be afraid of, that it was spectacular. They began to help everyone and all who were climbing so that all could reach the top and experience the joy of that place.

As they spent more time on the top, they began to realize that the clouds were dissipating. Gradually they noticed a connection between their acceptance of the new view and the amount of clouds in the valley below.

“What could this mean,” they all thought? So, for quite some time they walked along the edge of the hillside they had just climbed up and looking down through the clouds into the valley below where the villagers lived. Suddenly a new thought began to surface in their minds and they gradually realized something. From what they now knew as the edge of the hillside, they could see across the valley to the land on the other side. It too, was like the land on their side.

Then it dawned on them, or maybe the answer was given from the original climber, that the land was all this beautiful gently rolling countryside. They then noticed a pattern apparent in the valley below. Something about the whole valley didn’t seem right. It appeared that the valley had been made by something, or someone, it wasn’t natural. As they thought about this an inspiration came to them all at the same time. The valley was created. It was created by mistake. It was the very valley itself that was the source of the stories they had heard about a rebellion in heaven. It was created by one of the High Helpers of the original climber when he tried to deliberately change the original climber’s rules and make the realm operate the way he thought it should. It turned out all he did was to create a rut, a long indentation in the plain of the realm and caused all the villages under his influence to sink to the level of his selfish and deceitful design. This rut maker’s actions created chaos and confusion for all the villagers and filled the valley with a spirit of fear. For generations upon generations the villagers lived in this giant rut. They knew of the legends regarding the deceiver, but no one had ever before discovered just what the original climber had made really possible by his act of climbing out of the rut. He had shown the villagers a way out, a way out for everyone.

Now for the first time since the original climber, his path had been followed to the top of the hillside of the rut. This finally proved that others could climb out of the rut. In fact, it was discovered, climbing out of the rut was able to be done from anywhere along the valley bottom. All anyone had to do is decide to climb. Nothing more, just like the original climber had said.

Those who had aligned themselves with the “Those Faithful in Waiting” and those who were counted among the “Followers of the Climber” were greatly confused. They had assumed they were doing what was expected of them by embracing the beliefs of the Base Camp. But now it seemed all that was expected for anyone, or even everyone, was to actually climb. It became apparent that knowledge of the Base Camp teachings, the more recent book’s teachings or any other method of learning to climb was not the same as actually climbing. The true message of the original climber seemed to be that climbing was the lesson plan he wished all villagers to follow.

Well the “Followers” were not a happy bunch. At first, they were convinced that the original deceiver had returned. “This is a trick,” they thought, “clearly this is meant to deceive and confuse the villagers.” But gradually as more and more villagers began to make the climb the idea of it being false faded away and for a time climbing became the pastime of more and more people.

This created another problem. Many of the villagers, especially those who had never believed any of the versions of the story of the original climber, began to see fewer and fewer villagers left in the valley. They did not like this at all. These villagers had built a life that relied on the villagers to be villagers, so they could make money and have a nice life in the valley. They had no intention of climbing out of the rut, even if it was a rut. And they didn’t want others to climb out either. As they thought about it, they got madder and madder until they could not contain themselves. Something had to be done to stop the all climbing. They decided to go to war against the climbers and made a very desperate and intense argument against the original climbers who had discovered the way out of the rut.

Eventually they killed the many, many of those who were climbing out. As futile as it was they continued until all the villagers had chosen sides to be true climbers or to stay in the rut.

After a time, the original climber, who is really the Chief of this land, sent another High Assistant to come to the realm, put an end to the hostilities and begin the task of filling in the rut. Filling in the rut was after all, the natural result of healing.

Soon everyone who was left was informed that the time had come. They had only one choice, one final choice. They would have to climb out of the rut or be buried forever. It was their last chance. The only way out of the rut was to climb out. Each person and even every person was given the necessary abilities to do just that.

So, you see, climbing is for everyone. The mountain is not really a mountain, nor is it so tall or as fearsome as the villagers believed. It is a rut, one that should have never been in the first place. Once one gets used to the idea, climbing out seems pretty simple and pretty obvious. The villagers begin to learn that living out of the rut was their true destiny. It actually becomes apparent that climbing was built into who we were designed to be. It is one of our natural states.


Epoch 5 – A Statement

Epoch 5 is about re-focusing our reality to life beyond confusion. We sometimes think our path to the future is a gradual intrinsic growth plan that will gradually and systematically evolve our confusion and reluctant self-interest into righteousness. Ostensibly, we humans will gradually become spiritual. There are a number of statements in the Urantia Book that suggest that perspective is incorrect. We are being offered a fundamentally different and new perspective on life. Adopting it is revolutionary. In fact, adopting it in each of our personal lives is truly revelationary. There is nothing else on the planet like the Urantia Book. But it does not, in and of itself provide us with such a postulate. The perpetual guidance of our God Fragment, the Thought Adjuster, coupled with the living Spirit of Truth, the Spirit of the Eternal Son and the Holy Spirit, the spirit of the Divine partner in Nebadon, together provide each of us with a source of true experience that does this; it must be our deepest, most sincere intention to allow these unified sources we identify as “God”, to reveal these truths to us personally and individually. That living reality offers this planet hope. The reality of Epoch 5 is this personal experience available to any and all who will. This is the living Jesus. The living Jesus is us, if we will. The living Jesus is not the Urantia Book nor is it the information contained within the book. The authors of the book reveal to us the proximity of the Most Highs and their overwhelming desire to see us climb out of our rut. But we must climb ourselves; each of us must be the one who cleans up the mess of Epoch 4.

48 years ago, I was given a taste of this future and I have committed my life to the full realization of the meaning of it. Consciousness of spiritual interaction is not a mere function of reading the Urantia Book and seeking intellectual understanding. It is in applying our personalities to the experiential events of conscious realization of the spirit presence. We must learn to know God personally. We must grow to appreciate that sharing our growth experience of that process is God’s idea of building the family. Sharing is Godly. Sharing our deepest personal inner beings is a representation of our reality with God. God is real.

I encourage all of us to seek the same vision. Epoch 5 is upon us and our conscious awareness of our inner spiritual life is both the source of spiritual fruit as well as the answer to the world’s problems. So simply put, Epoch 5 was not inaugurated to change the world, it was for us, that we each, through our awareness of it and what it means to each of us personally, would.


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What does it mean to first fully leave behind the ways of the fourth epoch, and to first live fully in the fifth epoch? What exactly was being celebrated during this previous event which you point out has marked the end of the fourth epoch?

How can you claim, in your story, that all the individuals who went forth on their own expedition had all failed? Is this not the perception of the "Base Camp", and could not some of the travellers have found their way to this artificial or created grove that you describe? I contend that a few may have done so even without the narrator's wise, and simply never returned.

There is a troubling aspect of the records that the people who lived in the "Base Camp" or rut. They gave very little credence to the one who had revealed the path. They did not necessarily based their books "in remembrance" of this individual. What proof do we have that their community aimed for success?

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Quite the fable. And one which teaches little if anything about reality or history but one which does reveal much about the author of the fable.

The fable is written by a self announced priest/preacher of the "Church of the Climbers" who has long been disappointed in the spirituality and religious progress of those who do not join the church of the disappointed and superior Climbers. And those self perceived superior ones never seem to notice the well worn paths, hand rails, bridges, shelters, and look out points already built, attended, and so frequently visited by those currently and in the past who declined to join this church...whose members, or leaders at least, cannot seem to even see the endless stream of pilgrims upon all the many pathways up and into the mountains of soul and spirit attainment....but refuse the creeds, doctrines, and instructions of the self announced priests of disappointment.

An old and tiresome fable indeed....IMO. 8)


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SEla I am not quite sure what your questions are driving at, so I have taken a few days to ponder and seek guidance on just how to address them.

Let me offer this. The challenge here is to explain something that the Urantia Book says, but do so from the consciousness of an experience that revealed the reality of the concept to me, as revealed in the book, but prior to my reading the explanation of that reality, in the book. In other words, the reality of the 5th Epoch became a personal experience in my life. The next day I asked God for the book of directions to explain what he had just shown me and within a couple of hours found the Urantia Book. I know that sounds crazy but that is what happened.

So, here is the issue. Each Epoch brings with it the consciousness of the spiritual value present in that degree of revelation. Each Epoch offers us a greater presentation of the spiritual reality available for us to experience and embrace in faith. Like the difference between driving in 5th gear instead of 4th gear we are able to do things we could not do before. Epochally, the planet advances in revelation experiences just as we do individually, though the pace of growth as individuals is not limited to the pace of growth of the planet.

Epochal revelation proves that human evolution is not the sole driver of our advancement yet each of us must make a conscious decision to allow a revelation to be just that to our souls. When the book says that spiritual things must be loved in order to be known, it means just this. We must experience the revelation in order to know the revelation. We must decide to embrace the value consciousness as presented by the revelators in order to appreciate what they wrote in the Urantia Book. Choosing to approach the book from the human intellectual perspective is doing the opposite. It is living the habit of human while attempting to be spiritual. Human things must be known in order to be loved. This truth is the issue of my story. High gear spiritual performances must await the realization of this, which is the new revelation we seek. So my metaphor is that climbing out of the rut is the act of transferring our identities from the human way to the spiritual way, which, by the way, is God's idea of human anyway.

Jesus said this to the Hebrews, to the universes and he said it to me personally. He also told me that I am no different than anyone else and he will show each human who wills such, what he showed me. It is, always has been, and always will be, a personal choice.

Jim

P.S. Brad, it is clear that you have not allowed God to give you a concept of what I am talking about . . . Yet! I pray you will allow him to do just that.


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Jim....again you insult me....I clearly understand your fable...for you and Robert Sarmast have presented it multiple times in multiple ways here. You know Jim, the thing I like about Robert, besides being a real scholar of the UB, is his honesty and transparency regarding his beliefs and his role in creating a church of Urantia. You dodge the issue and play coy but you are here with an agenda and motive and point of view that is not unknown here.

Are you a self appointed minister and preacher Jim? Have you helped form and are now forming a Church of Urantia? Please demonstrate some sincerity, transparency, and honesty Jim! Can one lead others to safety or up the mountain without sufficient integrity to declare themselves as a self appointed leader Jim? Can one criticize others and demean their religious experience without disclosing their role and claims with Urantia Religion/Church and Urantia International Ministries?


TruthBook is founded upon and exists for the study of the UB Jim. What's your agenda? Saving people. Telling us what we are not doing right and what we should be doing instead. Why is that's all we seem to hear from you? Even your fable reeks of superiority and criticism/judgement of others. A pity. Not feeling the love dude. Or the hope. Or the trust in the Most Highs and Spirits within. What I hear is impatience and disappointment and the ego to claim to know what others do and don't do and what mountains they do not traverse and the glorious experience of personal progress in the Spirit they are not having...compared to you anyway...according to you anyway!!! No, none seem so self important or self righteous as the chief mountain climber and self appointed leader, come to save the lazy the stupid, and the lost. Not attractive. Or helpful.

You and Robert have long lamented the lack of support you receive and have yet to receive from the Foundation, Fellowship, Utantia Association International, and members/readers/students here at TruthBook. You have long accused the student body who do not join your church or embrace your creeds of beliefs of being inferior and having a 2 dimensional religious experience compared to your own and not truly living the teachings of the UB....only reading and intellectualizing compared to you.

For those who wish to explore the long and extensive history of this fable and Jim's disappointments in those in the UB movement over the decades for not establishing a cult, church, and religion, please review these discussions for a start (there are others):

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5263

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5276

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5280

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3127&p=35489#p35489

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3126

There is a historical record here of 10 years and many topics where Jim and Robert present the need for their church and doctrinal creeds and their demands and disappointments of other UB students, which are now presented here by Jim as a "fable"....which remains insulting....and false in premise and conclusion. Insulting to TruthBook too and all who attend and have attended and those who created it and support its existence and all who serve dissemination and ever have. Tell us your real agenda here Jim....you have said you hope to "lead others to safety"....or up the mountain and out of their "rut"?

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Just to be clear: I have no problem with preachers or minsters whether self anointed or otherwise and I have no problem with those who attend a church or religious group or those who practice a set of creeds or dogmas or shared beliefs, etc. I am not against those who wish to form a Urantia Church either....don't agree with it or find a need for it....but that just means I won't be joining one and not that I'll be opposing them. Seems rather inevitable...and understandable...if regrettable.

What I do oppose is agenda without disclosure. And the insidious approach taken to denounce others who do not believe what you do Jim and do not wish to join your and Robert's church or any church and must suffer your endless insults and insinuations of being less serious or less real or less fruitful or less dedicated in our spiritual lives and commitment to spiritualization and love and service.

Please stop. Talk about a rut......please go climb a mountain dude! Here you are preaching to the choir as they say...and insulting them. We get it....you have a church and you lead them upward and those who will not follow you are .....what?! Doomed?

Bradly 8)


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You know what's neat about climbing a mountain?

It changes you.


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The 5th Epoch

The earth looks like a spoiled child’s room after a birthday party sleepover; toys are strewn, clothes are laying on the floor, spilled drinks and stale food are ground into the carpet, broken pieces of new toys are mixed with the leftovers of now melted ice cream blended into cake crumbs, party favors and wrapping paper are scattered everywhere and even the parents have left town, or so we think. There is no one left to clean up.

Wait . . .

If I am looking at this scene and I see the mess, I must be the one left to clean.

That doesn’t seem fair, I wasn’t even invited to the party.

Or was I?

That is how we find ourselves as we begin Epoch 5. We have made a mess of Epoch 4 and we are bringing our behaviors of disregard to our new way. But we shall not be able to live this way for long. Putting off the cleaning or deciding it is someone else’s responsibility will end in disaster.

Epoch 5, our new era, brings with it some quite astounding potentials wrapped in the monumental effort required to shed the psychological and spiritually induced trappings of the past, the trappings, through which our societies encourage us to see ourselves as the center of the universe. Epoch 5 proves we are not! The real work of Epoch 5 is in coming to terms with that reality; that is our first duty. Cleaning up the mess will be our second.

Each Epoch of our planet brings us to an enhanced ability to comprehend the offering we call life. Each Epoch is a phase in our growth in planetary culture and status. Each enables us to see further into the eternal distance and receive through that vision, greater concepts of hope, enhanced expressions of love, more realistic appreciations of truth, beauty and goodness and an overall higher sense of purpose in everything we are and expect to become.

It is assumed that we would not be ushered into a new Epoch until we had, both individually and collectively finished the previous growth expectations placed upon us as a condition of that Epoch, but here we are; out of step. We have received the Creator Son of the Universe, yet we have not adopted his life plan. In fact, we as a planet still don’t know his plan. After 2000 years his message has yet to be explained in a meaningful enough way to become the standard of living for humankind. It has yet to be lived. Epoch 5 changes that.

The following child-like story may help to explain this issue; the difference between Epoch 4 and Epoch 5.

Epoch Five

The Beginning,
and the End of Epoch Four.

Part 1

There once was a land that sat at the base of two majestic yet mysterious mountain ranges. I guess you could say this land was a long valley with mountain ranges on both sides. These ranges of mountains were so tall that the top of each of them was cloaked in the clouds nearly all the time. Because of this overbearing cloud cover, no one had ever actually climbed either mountain. They all feared climbing into the unknown.

At least that was the common thought among the valley residents. Stories had been told from times long past, regarding a tradition. Some said was it only a dream, but the tradition was that a young man many generations before, had actually climbed the mountain, in fact, as the story goes, he climbed the tallest of them all, and he had climbed all the way to the top. The story went on explaining how he described the wonderful lands beyond the mountains and how much more rich and full the valley dwellers lives would be if only they were to discover the simple joy of climbing the mountains. Over time the villagers began to dis-believe their traditions about this lone climber but there were still some who would not give up the idea.

One day some brave men and women from this group who would not give up the idea, gathered at the foot of the tallest most dramatic of the mountains. These villagers decided to make an attempt to prove whether the tradition was true history or merely a dream. So, they met to discuss and strategize a plan to ascend the mountain. You see, one person had been inspired to come up with the idea which he shared with others until he gathered a group of those who thought themselves brave enough to follow his idea.

The plan was simple; they would develop a plan and attempt to climb the mountain, if it was possible. They weren’t sure, but they wanted to find out. They called themselves, “New Mountain Climbers”. Since nobody else had ever climbed it to the top, except maybe the one of tradition, most villagers didn’t believe it could be done.

Now, there was another group of villagers who believed the rumor that one person had actually climbed it but held to a part of the rumor that the one who had climbed had said he would come back some day and that he would provide a way to transport all who truly believed in the rumor, to the top. But, to most villagers, the idea that one person could carry all the rest was so preposterous this group remained rather small in number.

The villagers that did choose to believe this dream actually had decided to do little but wait for it to happen. This group called themselves “Those Faithful in Waiting”.

But since most of the common folk from the village did not believe it was possible to climb the mountain at all, except maybe in theory, the groups of “Those Faithful in Waiting” and “New Mountain Climbers” were outcasts from normal valley life.

In spite of it all, this group who called themselves “New Mountain Climbers” counted themselves worthy to make the attempt to climb. So, they met at the bottom of the mountain in what they called “base camp” and started to actually plan their climb. As they began to talk among themselves, a strange thing happened. The longer the group of climbers sat in the base camp tent and discussed the plan, the more they discovered that they didn’t really know how to climb, and they found, because of this, they had much, very much to discuss. What would they do if they got to the first outcropping where the large rocks stuck out and even from the base they could tell the climbing would be so very dangerous? Also, how would they deal with the ever-changing weather? What if there was a rock slide? If they ever got to the part that was always in the clouds, what if they couldn’t see? How would they find their way back? The traditions that had been repeated about the original mountain climber said that there would be an unmistakable trail and that there were some unseen helpers that they could count on, though no one really knew what that meant, but what if that whole story wasn’t true, what would they do then? How would they know what route to take? Questions like these troubled them greatly, so they sat and talked and talked and argued and argued, all about the best way to climb the mountain. Some attempted to remind the group how the one who had actually climbed it had done it. You see there was a book of stories about the original climber that was written by some villagers who were apparently alive at the time that provided a simple record, but even that didn’t seem to instill enough confidence that they could begin a real climb.

Well, they continued to discuss these things until a year went by. Then another year went by and another and another and another until a generation had passed. The simple book of historical memories was re-written again and again. Each time it was, it took on a greater sense of its importance. As it was put it into a more common language for the later times, a new expectation of its value was expressed by the New Mountain Climbers to help describe what the group could remember of tales long forgotten or barely remembered, of the few attempts to climb the mountain.

But, every so often one or another villager would undertake an independent though halfhearted effort to begin a climb. They were always unsuccessful. The more often that happened, the more convinced others were that the mountain could not be climbed. But, each time someone tried, their story was added to the book so throughout all history any success at all was added to the book. The more it was re-written the more difficult it became to tell the tale of how the one who had climbed it had actually done it.

The sons and daughters of these brave “New Mountain Climbers” eventually joined in the discussions and gradually took them over. Then another generation did the same, then another, then another.
After many generations, no one even remembered that the “New Mountain Climbers” group had been started by a small group of seemingly brave mountain climbers and gradually their purpose evolved into something altogether different. The group’s purpose changed into one of waiting for the one who had actually climbed to come back and show them how, or even to carry them to the top. They even began to call themselves “Brave Followers of the One Climber” rather than “New Mountain Climbers”.

But another thing happened as well. Because this group had studied mountain climbing for so long, they began to believe that they were the only ones who were officially allowed to teach climbing. In time, they became so convinced that they were appointed keepers of the path up the mountain that they refused to allow anyone who was not in their group to even attempt a climb.

So, no one did.

For generations nobody ever really climbed the mountain.

Every so often one or more would get tired of waiting and would actually attempt the climb but they were always ridiculed and harassed as they attempted even the lowest levels where they could be seen from the village and the Official Base Camp. Sometimes they called down from the lower points on the mountain where they got stuck or had trouble only to have the “Followers” call them down. They were criticized as being unfit for climbing and their paths were made fun of. After all, who were they to think they had what it took to climb for real? Eventually even these few quit and returned to base camp. For generations all was quiet on the mountain. You see the theory developed that only those who had studied climbing at the Base Camp schools were suitable to be the true “Brave Followers of the One Climber”. Fear of ridicule had kept many who thought they might try from actually doing it so for years and years no one tried.

PART 2

Many years and even generations later, another book suddenly appeared in the village. It was a book that described what one could see from the top of the mountain and how each villager of every village could make the climb if they simply chose to. Included in this book were details of the kinds of things one could expect along the way. It also described the life of the original climber who had actually made it the first time. The “Brave Followers of the Climber” in the base camp tent and the “Those Faithful in Waiting” both became incensed when they discovered this book and immediately and vehemently announced that it was a fraud. How could it be that someone would attempt to be so arrogant as to write a book describing something nobody was able to do since the original climber? After all, these two groups of “Faithful Followers” had devoted their whole lives to learning how to climb and this new book had been written without anyone even discussing it with them; not to mention that no one even asked them for their help or approval? They had devoted their lives to studying the art of climbing and had built great institutions of learning and practice to teach others how to know how to climb. They knew they were the official “Faithful Followers” therefore the new book must be a fraud.

But you see, this new book was written by the assistants to the original climber and at his request. These assistants were unique, they were invisible to the valley dwellers. These assistants, though, lived equally in the realm of the villages and their purpose was to be helpers of the original and real climber. Since they were helpers the villagers could not see, but most villagers didn’t believe existed, no one expected to be assisted in climbing. But had the villagers ever really climbed, they would have discovered these helpers just as the original climber had said they would. This new book was so exquisitely and deeply written and so intricately detailed that many villagers weren’t unable to understand it. Most villagers, especially those who had no intention of climbing would even attempt to read it. But some did. They immediately discovered that the words made more sense and explained the art of climbing in more detail than anything they had ever seen. Gradually a wonderful thing happened. Small groups of villagers formed with the intent to read the book together and learn how to climb. Some got very good at the practice of knowing how to climb and were able to show others how to know how to climb. As these groups got better and better at knowing the art of climbing, another gradual transformation happened. Villagers again became complacent and decided that learning how to climb was the true goal, even of the new book and, as well, the true goal of the original climber. Only, again, as before, no one really climbed. After thousands of years, the mountain still had only been climbed all the way by one individual and it had only one set of tracks.

Then one day a lone villager was personally visited by an agent of the original climber and was both challenged and inspired to climb. This villager had never read the “Climbers” first book or even the new book that had appeared in the village but just accepted the original climber’s challenge to climb to see what was on top. When he did, the original climber had his helpers reveal the view from the top as an insight to keep him climbing when things got tough. So, climb he did. After just a short time climbing, he discovered the original tracks of the first climber and received an inspiration from one of the original climber’s invisible helpers. He made a promise to himself that he would climb to the top, no matter what or how long it took, even if it took him his whole life. A few years later this villager discovered that there were others who had been inspired to climb from other villages. How amazed they were to discover each other and tell stories of their climbing adventures. Some of this group decided to return to the base to inform the villagers that there was a way to climb and the view from the mountain was fantastic. The other climbers who stayed on the mountain climbed on and on facing all sorts of challenges and troubles along the way. As tales of their success reached the villages, others in the valley became inspired to climb and after a while there were many villagers climbing. Every time these real climbers faced a new challenge the original climber would send some inspirational assistance to them through his unseen helpers, making the way clear so they could continue. Gradually they realized that the original climber had told the villagers he would do that but only for those who actually climbed the mountain. These things were written in the first book and in the second book as well.

PART 3

One day while climbing way up in the clouds where he couldn’t see, a climber caught a glimpse through a break in the clouds, of the path ahead. To his astonishment, the path was nearly flat, more like a quiet path on a gently rolling countryside. And the land ahead was not mountainous it was lush and green and filled with fruit trees and it appeared to go on and on to the horizon. He discovered that he was not on a mountain top, he was on what looked like a lush rolling prairie and woods. These first climbers arriving on top thought the land looked like heaven. They immediately called to those who were climbing and made it clear that there was nothing on the top of the mountain to be afraid of, that it was spectacular. They began to help everyone and all who were climbing so that all could reach the top and experience the joy of that place.

As they spent more time on the top, they began to realize that the clouds were dissipating. Gradually they noticed a connection between their acceptance of the new view and the amount of clouds in the valley below.

“What could this mean,” they all thought? So, for quite some time they walked along the edge of the hillside they had just climbed up and looking down through the clouds into the valley below where the villagers lived. Suddenly a new thought began to surface in their minds and they gradually realized something. From what they now knew as the edge of the hillside, they could see across the valley to the land on the other side. It too, was like the land on their side.

Then it dawned on them, or maybe the answer was given from the original climber, that the land was all this beautiful gently rolling countryside. They then noticed a pattern apparent in the valley below. Something about the whole valley didn’t seem right. It appeared that the valley had been made by something, or someone, it wasn’t natural. As they thought about this an inspiration came to them all at the same time. The valley was created. It was created by mistake. It was the very valley itself that was the source of the stories they had heard about a rebellion in heaven. It was created by one of the High Helpers of the original climber when he tried to deliberately change the original climber’s rules and make the realm operate the way he thought it should. It turned out all he did was to create a rut, a long indentation in the plain of the realm and caused all the villages under his influence to sink to the level of his selfish and deceitful design. This rut maker’s actions created chaos and confusion for all the villagers and filled the valley with a spirit of fear. For generations upon generations the villagers lived in this giant rut. They knew of the legends regarding the deceiver, but no one had ever before discovered just what the original climber had made really possible by his act of climbing out of the rut. He had shown the villagers a way out, a way out for everyone.

Now for the first time since the original climber, his path had been followed to the top of the hillside of the rut. This finally proved that others could climb out of the rut. In fact, it was discovered, climbing out of the rut was able to be done from anywhere along the valley bottom. All anyone had to do is decide to climb. Nothing more, just like the original climber had said.

Those who had aligned themselves with the “Those Faithful in Waiting” and those who were counted among the “Followers of the Climber” were greatly confused. They had assumed they were doing what was expected of them by embracing the beliefs of the Base Camp. But now it seemed all that was expected for anyone, or even everyone, was to actually climb. It became apparent that knowledge of the Base Camp teachings, the more recent book’s teachings or any other method of learning to climb was not the same as actually climbing. The true message of the original climber seemed to be that climbing was the lesson plan he wished all villagers to follow.

Well the “Followers” were not a happy bunch. At first, they were convinced that the original deceiver had returned. “This is a trick,” they thought, “clearly this is meant to deceive and confuse the villagers.” But gradually as more and more villagers began to make the climb the idea of it being false faded away and for a time climbing became the pastime of more and more people.

This created another problem. Many of the villagers, especially those who had never believed any of the versions of the story of the original climber, began to see fewer and fewer villagers left in the valley. They did not like this at all. These villagers had built a life that relied on the villagers to be villagers, so they could make money and have a nice life in the valley. They had no intention of climbing out of the rut, even if it was a rut. And they didn’t want others to climb out either. As they thought about it, they got madder and madder until they could not contain themselves. Something had to be done to stop the all climbing. They decided to go to war against the climbers and made a very desperate and intense argument against the original climbers who had discovered the way out of the rut.

Eventually they killed the many, many of those who were climbing out. As futile as it was they continued until all the villagers had chosen sides to be true climbers or to stay in the rut.

After a time, the original climber, who is really the Chief of this land, sent another High Assistant to come to the realm, put an end to the hostilities and begin the task of filling in the rut. Filling in the rut was after all, the natural result of healing.

Soon everyone who was left was informed that the time had come. They had only one choice, one final choice. They would have to climb out of the rut or be buried forever. It was their last chance. The only way out of the rut was to climb out. Each person and even every person was given the necessary abilities to do just that.

So, you see, climbing is for everyone. The mountain is not really a mountain, nor is it so tall or as fearsome as the villagers believed. It is a rut, one that should have never been in the first place. Once one gets used to the idea, climbing out seems pretty simple and pretty obvious. The villagers begin to learn that living out of the rut was their true destiny. It actually becomes apparent that climbing was built into who we were designed to be. It is one of our natural states.


Epoch 5 – A Statement

Epoch 5 is about re-focusing our reality to life beyond confusion. We sometimes think our path to the future is a gradual intrinsic growth plan that will gradually and systematically evolve our confusion and reluctant self-interest into righteousness. Ostensibly, we humans will gradually become spiritual. There are a number of statements in the Urantia Book that suggest that perspective is incorrect. We are being offered a fundamentally different and new perspective on life. Adopting it is revolutionary. In fact, adopting it in each of our personal lives is truly revelationary. There is nothing else on the planet like the Urantia Book. But it does not, in and of itself provide us with such a postulate. The perpetual guidance of our God Fragment, the Thought Adjuster, coupled with the living Spirit of Truth, the Spirit of the Eternal Son and the Holy Spirit, the spirit of the Divine partner in Nebadon, together provide each of us with a source of true experience that does this; it must be our deepest, most sincere intention to allow these unified sources we identify as “God”, to reveal these truths to us personally and individually. That living reality offers this planet hope. The reality of Epoch 5 is this personal experience available to any and all who will. This is the living Jesus. The living Jesus is us, if we will. The living Jesus is not the Urantia Book nor is it the information contained within the book. The authors of the book reveal to us the proximity of the Most Highs and their overwhelming desire to see us climb out of our rut. But we must climb ourselves; each of us must be the one who cleans up the mess of Epoch 4.

48 years ago, I was given a taste of this future and I have committed my life to the full realization of the meaning of it. Consciousness of spiritual interaction is not a mere function of reading the Urantia Book and seeking intellectual understanding. It is in applying our personalities to the experiential events of conscious realization of the spirit presence. We must learn to know God personally. We must grow to appreciate that sharing our growth experience of that process is God’s idea of building the family. Sharing is Godly. Sharing our deepest personal inner beings is a representation of our reality with God. God is real.

I encourage all of us to seek the same vision. Epoch 5 is upon us and our conscious awareness of our inner spiritual life is both the source of spiritual fruit as well as the answer to the world’s problems. So simply put, Epoch 5 was not inaugurated to change the world, it was for us, that we each, through our awareness of it and what it means to each of us personally, would.


I suppose this fable's title is formed by the fact we have now received 5 Epochal Revelations? And not related to Paper 52 - Planetary Mortal Epochs?


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The way I read what Jim wrote, Epoch 5 was inaugurated by the Urantia Papers not to change the world, but to change the individual.

That by climbing the mountain instead of reading about it, a person will change.


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This is a forum of ideas. It is a forum of diverse personalities. It is important to allow free expression within the limits of the posting rules that we all should know by heart by now. We may never all agree about these ideas, but their free discussion is vital. If you disagree, address the IDEA, not the PERSON who posts the idea. This is clearly addressed in the posting rules, found here: https://truthbook.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3582, specifically rule#5 under "Please do not"


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Dear fanofVan and All,

This is a forum of ideas. It is a forum of diverse personalities. It is important to allow free expression within the limits of the posting rules that we all should know by heart by now. We may never all agree about these ideas, but their free discussion is vital. If you disagree, address the IDEA, not the PERSON who posts the idea. This is clearly addressed in the posting rules, found here: https://truthbook.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3582, specifically rule#5 under "Please do not"


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It is certainly my intention to discuss the "ideas" within Jim's fable. And the "ideas" Jim has repeatedly posted here over the years behind and in preface to and by introduction of his fable posted here. There's a lot of ideas to unbundled and consider therein. Jim has a perspective which is well documented here that is also important to be aware of when considering the "ideas" he shares here IMO.

Is the meaning of the fable unclear? Let's ask Jim to identify and articulate that for those who cannot tell who is who before I discuss my ideas about who they are....based on 10 years of discussion here at TruthBook. One cannot deny one's own words after all...and Jim has previously named the groups in this fable for us. The "rut makers" are historically identified by Jim already...primarily all Christian/believers (the fearful) in one group and all UB students/believers (the complacent)in another....as I recall.

But let us ask Jim for illumination. Indeed.

I do wonder who is the "the lone villager"?

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The way I read what Jim wrote, Epoch 5 was inaugurated by the Urantia Papers not to change the world, but to change the individual.

That by climbing the mountain instead of reading about it, a person will change.


Do one of you know someone here who's NOT on the mountain?! Do either of you know who reads but does not climb or who progresses in the Spirit or not?


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Being on the mountain is one thing. Climbing the mountain is another thing entirely.

No one can know about any of these two things about someone else's personal experience.

But all are able to recognize the changes that occur in the people they know.


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Being on the mountain is one thing. Climbing the mountain is another thing entirely.

No one can know about any of these two things about someone else's personal experience.

But all are able to recognize the changes that occur in the people they know.


And yet there are those who do appear to claim to know the location of others on the pilgrim's path to Paradise (the mountain). And while some may be "able to recognize the changes that occur" in some of the people "they know", the fable we discuss classifies people and generalizes people and de-personalizes people and then measures them and then judges them...IMO.

Jim has quite a history of such "ideas" and his powers to know the hearts of others and who's climbing and who is not....including those he does NOT "know".


Jim has also claimed to know his own Circle of Progress. His claim. Funny how words once written provide a record of one's "ideas"...about all manner of stuff.

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"Then one day a lone villager was personally visited by an agent of the original climber and was both challenged and inspired to climb. This villager had never read the “Climbers” first book or even the new book that had appeared in the village but just accepted the original climber’s challenge to climb to see what was on top. When he did, the original climber had his helpers reveal the view from the top as an insight to keep him climbing when things got tough. So, climb he did. After just a short time climbing, he discovered the original tracks of the first climber and received an inspiration from one of the original climber’s invisible helpers. He made a promise to himself that he would climb to the top, no matter what or how long it took, even if it took him his whole life. A few years later this villager discovered that there were others who had been inspired to climb from other villages. How amazed they were to discover each other and tell stories of their climbing adventures. Some of this group decided to return to the base to inform the villagers that there was a way to climb and the view from the mountain was fantastic. The other climbers who stayed on the mountain climbed on and on facing all sorts of challenges and troubles along the way. As tales of their success reached the villages, others in the valley became inspired to climb and after a while there were many villagers climbing. Every time these real climbers faced a new challenge the original climber would send some inspirational assistance to them through his unseen helpers, making the way clear so they could continue. Gradually they realized that the original climber had told the villagers he would do that but only for those who actually climbed the mountain. These things were written in the first book and in the second book as well."



So Jim...are you the lone villager....or one of his followers? Please name this prophet for us.


I look forward to your clarifications and a thorough discussion of every aspect of your fable and the many "ideas" expressed therein.


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