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We are faced with many difficulties on Urantia that other worlds do not experience (although we are told in TUB that at least 2 other worlds in our local system have had similar setbacks). As the Truthbook website describes these difficulties:

The Urantia Book teaches us that our planet is not progressing in a normal way, as are many other planets; as a planet, we have suffered 1)a system-wide rebellion, 2) a default of our Material Son and Daughter (Adam and Eve), and 3) our last revelation of God to the races of mankind, Jesus of Nazareth, was betrayed and murdered. On a normal planet, there would be a whole culture dedicated to teaching of God, there would be in residence an Adam and Eve pair, who would inhabit a beautiful Garden of Eden. That Garden would be a focal point for disseminating and teaching the realities of God, Mankind would know from birth that he was a child of a loving God. There would be no question, as we would have actual celestial personalities here to substantiate that reality. As it is, we have been shorn of those celestial helpers as a result of rebellion and default.

What does this mean for our society, as a whole? What does it mean for each of us as individuals?


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That text could have also listed the great retrogression of viruses and bacteria to become parasitic. That was possible because Earth is a decimal planet on which biological processes are re-engineered in an attempt to improve life conditions. Widespread disease resulted from that "experiment" having gone wrong.

I think those factors make it so that we have a major absence of a planet-wide recognized authority. Who or what have become authorities in the interim? The Pope? TUB? The United Nations collective? Wikipedia? Google search engine?


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Good points, Riktare. I wonder, too, about the lag between societal and ethical practices and the rapid pace of technology innovation, which leaves us in this sort of no-mans-land of social media; technology-enabled surveillance; 24-hour news cycles that have to be filled with content no matter the quality; and medical interventions that may be going beyond ethical boundaries when it comes to cloning and DNA modifications etc. Also artificial intelligence.

Technology is sort of a genie that has been let out of the bottle without any governing force or intelligent oversight as to ensuring that society is mature enough to handle it and that our governance mechanisms can support wise, optimal use of these technologies without infringing on human rights and long-term well being.

Imagine what could be done with all these technologies if they were wisely employed by a society wholly unified/ motivated by bringing about God's will!


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That text could have also listed the great retrogression of viruses and bacteria to become parasitic. That was possible because Earth is a decimal planet on which biological processes are re-engineered in an attempt to improve life conditions. Widespread disease resulted from that "experiment" having gone wrong.

I think those factors make it so that we have a major absence of a planet-wide recognized authority. Who or what have become authorities in the interim? The Pope? TUB? The United Nations collective? Wikipedia? Google search engine?



It's my understanding that this was also result of the lack of Adamic blood due to the default...in addition to the fact we are a decimal world. The LC's were counting on a balancing and mitigating influence which did not happen to the degree of their calculations!

65:5.1 (736.4) It was a source of regret to the Life Carriers that our special efforts to modify intelligent life on Urantia should have been so handicapped by tragic perversions beyond our control: the Caligastia betrayal and the Adamic default.

65:5.2 (736.5) But throughout all of this biologic adventure our greatest disappointment grew out of the reversion of certain primitive plant life to the prechlorophyll levels of parasitic bacteria on such an extensive and unexpected scale. This eventuality in plant-life evolution caused many distressful diseases in the higher mammals, particularly in the more vulnerable human species. When we were confronted with this perplexing situation, we somewhat discounted the difficulties involved because we knew that the subsequent admixture of the Adamic life plasm would so reinforce the resisting powers of the resulting blended race as to make it practically immune to all diseases produced by the vegetable type of organism. But our hopes were doomed to disappointment owing to the misfortune of the Adamic default.



Me here: There were many other elements of the Life Carriers experimentation that also had profound effects...and I do agree that Riktare is correct about the parasitic potential and results being a calculated risk that went bad....but others went rather well and have actually accelerated the success of the eventuation and evolution of being an inhabited world:

65:4.7 (735.6) There were many unique features of the Urantia life experiment, but the two outstanding episodes were the appearance of the Andonic race prior to the evolution of the six colored peoples and the later simultaneous appearance of the Sangik mutants in a single family. Urantia is the first world in Satania where the six colored races sprang from the same human family. They ordinarily arise in diversified strains from independent mutations within the prehuman animal stock and usually appear on earth one at a time and successively over long periods of time, beginning with the red man and passing on down through the colors to indigo.

65:4.8 (735.7) Another outstanding variation of procedure was the late arrival of the Planetary Prince. As a rule, the prince appears on a planet about the time of will development; and if such a plan had been followed, Caligastia might have come to Urantia even during the lifetimes of Andon and Fonta instead of almost five hundred thousand years later, simultaneously with the appearance of the six Sangik races.

65:4.9 (735.8) On an ordinary inhabited world a Planetary Prince would have been granted on the request of the Life Carriers at, or sometime after, the appearance of Andon and Fonta. But Urantia having been designated a life-modification planet, it was by preagreement that the Melchizedek observers, twelve in number, were sent as advisers to the Life Carriers and as overseers of the planet until the subsequent arrival of the Planetary Prince. These Melchizedeks came at the time Andon and Fonta made the decisions which enabled Thought Adjusters to indwell their mortal minds.

65:4.10 (736.1) On Urantia the endeavors of the Life Carriers to improve the Satania life patterns necessarily resulted in the production of many apparently useless forms of transition life. But the gains already accrued are sufficient to justify the Urantia modifications of the standard life designs.

65:4.11 (736.2) It was our intention to produce an early manifestation of will in the evolutionary life of Urantia, and we succeeded. Ordinarily, will does not emerge until the colored races have long been in existence, usually first appearing among the superior types of the red man. Your world is the only planet in Satania where the human type of will has appeared in a precolored race.


Me here: It seems that the Most Highs have really had to consider their Plan B responses to unexpected outcomes and failures on Urantia to keep us moving through the Mortal Epochs these past million years.

Probably the most profound influence of response and remedy was Michael choosing our world for his final bestowal and the gift of the Spirit of Truth and the flood of TA's. The UB says our world would quickly revert to savage barbarity if the TA's were to suddenly depart.

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It means that those who have read the Urantia Book have failed to glorify God, as perhaps humanity shall in the coming ages of Life & Light for Urantia. That the representative of truthbook.com who wrote what you shared aspires to use the Edenic ideal to build his own culture. But the garden of eden is a multigenerational aspiration, and as it must be adapted to the modern age, must come to be out of a culture(a society) who is seeking to glorify God.

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It means that those who have read the Urantia Book have failed to glorify God, as perhaps humanity shall in the coming ages of Life & Light for Urantia. That the representative of truthbook.com who wrote what you shared aspires to use the Edenic ideal to build his own culture. But the garden of eden is a multigenerational aspiration, and as it must be adapted to the modern age, must come to be out of a culture(a society) who is seeking to glorify God.


Say what??!! You just accused every reader of the UB of failing to glorify God....please explain yourself.


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Bradly, Sela said: "as perhaps humanity shall in the coming ages of Life & Light for Urantia.


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Bradly, Sela said: "as perhaps humanity shall in the coming ages of Life & Light for Urantia.


:?: :?: :?:

So he said UB readers do glorify God?

Really? That's your story? More crazy town....


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nodAmanaV wrote:
Bradly, Sela said: "as perhaps humanity shall in the coming ages of Life & Light for Urantia.


:?: :?: :?:

Nobody alive today, UB reader or not is able to glorify God anywhere close to someone who will be so priviliged to grow up on our world during the era of Light and Life.


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Still a generalization, insulting of others, judgmental, presumptous, and demonstration of hubris.


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I see the glorification of God on two levels: the individual and the planet/ society/ world's population as a whole. I believe that every individual has a unique *capacity* to glorify God, irrespective of whether they have read any particular book and regardless of the status of the planet on which they live (Light and Life, or abnormal and troubled, as is the current state of Urantia). I believe individuals are filled with a capacity to glorify God to the maximal extent - the question is, whether we as individuals choose to do so.

On a planetary/ society/ world population level, I agree that our planet will not fully glorify God until we reach that stage of Light and Life.

One of the impacts of our abnormal conditions is that, as a society, we tend to glorify a lot of things to our detriment. We glorify celebrities and sports stars. We ascribe to cults of personality in which the person being glorified can do no wrong ("I could shoot someone on the corner of 9th avenue and my followers wouldn't care.") If we were a normal planet, with actual celestial personalities in clear view and providing wise leadership, such glorification of demagogues would not occur. Our passions and hopes would all be God-ward.


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nodAmanaV, it is unfair to lay the blame on Urantia Book readers for the failures that were experienced here as a result of the default of Adam and Eve, as well as the rebellion. The Urantia Book has been here for less than 100 years; but we've had over 30,000 years of repercussions from the Adamic default that are yet to be understood by the rest of the world.

But now that we have the revelation of the book, we all have a lot of work to do, and it is going to be a long time before we as a civilization can see real improvements. We still deal with rampant materialism and secularism and a host of other maladies that must be slowly worn down in favor of the realization of the kingdom in peoples' hearts. It all starts within all of our own hearts and the lives we live for others to see. Light and life will not just magically happen without hearts changing, one at a time, for the good.

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Some relevant Mota: 48:7.14 (556.14) 12. The greatest affliction of the cosmos is never to have been afflicted. ...


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Yes, we are fortunate to be afflicted with these challenges. But it is not enough to have affliction thrust upon us; it is how we respond to it that yields the benefits. I'd really like to hear from others about how you deal with our world's challenges and problems.

How do you respond when you perceive injustice as you go about your daily activities?

How do you worship in a world where institutionalized religions are rife with corruption and abuses?

How do you provide good parenting when there are so many harmful distractions pulling families apart?

How do you respond when you pray, seeking to understand God's will but feel unsure of what God wants you to do?


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No I am not blaming Urantia Book readers either. But the times when humanity DID seem to glorify God, as in the Salem school, or on the peninsular of Eden. These ancient cities are the remnants of multiracial groups voluntarily congregating in order to prepare a purposeful place. How is this prepared the migrants carried all of the seeds they grew in their native land with them. People can move past the idea of Adam's default, when they believe also that the plan of the Adamic regime did not actually fail on Urantia, did not actually fail to prosper.

The pattern of these cities still hold much value in that the story of them reveals elements of culture which can be grafted into the homes of URantia book readers. One may adopt the customs from the children of Adam & Eve who came to rule Urantia. The glorification of God, if we are being honest, comes when several generations of parents have helped children to become self-directed in a similar manner. It can only come from a community where there has been the established peace.

I certainly could be wrong. There may be other cities where evolved Urantians have truly prepared a place where God may embrace how do you want to say "His Children". I have not travelled to every continent.

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