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Anyone familiar with UFO literature knows that human-alien abductions are a big part of the folklore.
(See books by John Mack, such as "Abduction" and "Passport to the Cosmos.")
Those who report abductions often cite seeing human-alien offspring and banks of incubation tanks
containing the hybrids. Apparently there are THOUSANDS of these hybrid children ready to descend onto Earth.

Now the Urantia Book claims that the plan for Adam and Eve was to produce about 500,000 offspring who would intermarry with the "best strains" of the Andonites. The default left only a few thousand of the Adamic strain.

I just wonder if the aborted plan by Adam and Eve to uplift the human plasm isn't being replaced or
upgraded to a modern version that most people would term alien abduction(?)!

Could it be that when the planet reaches a crucial point (which seems to be quickly approaching), that
these new "Adamic" hybrids will be revealed to humans, and the long-delayed uplifting or our gene pool
will at last be upon us? And also, by the way, saving the planet.

I've written a paper on the subject at:
http://christianliberal.wordpress.com/2012/06/11/angel-human-interbreeding-5-2/

with the appropriate references provided.
PLEASE let me know your thoughts on this.

The paper starts with:

Earth is being watched. It is being monitored. More importantly, its human population is being nurtured and uplifted by genetic and educational methods designed to speed our evolution. All of this is orchestrated by a vast network of super-beings, creative forces, and groups of entities both on and off the planet. They have interbred and modified our DNA several times in our history, and there may be a program in the works for the next iteration of that genetic uplifting.

These themes may be familiar to those who study UFO abductions, but the key difference is that the interventions are not by aliens. This process of human improvement is organized and unfolding according to well-crafted plans by a celestial and spiritual government which we might call the Kingdom of Heaven. Such is the case if we are to believe the revelations contained in The Urantia Book.


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If one were to read the Book long enough and deep enough to believe the Book, one would not claim that angels and humans are breeding - now or ever, here or anywhere. And one would know that the bioligic upliftment mission was not an intervention but a normal planetary development step....and that mission defaulted and was aborted early. One would learn that there is no additional genetic help or "intervention" to come, except as our science and our progressive civilization discovers and embraces for itself. And one would learn dispensational patience and quit blowing the foolish horn of the "end of days is upon us". In 500,000 years of time we've had 5 such epochal revelations, just got #5 60 years ago and its work has hardly begun...perhaps it will take some time longer to work its power of transformation before we declare it a failure and wish for another? This mortal, temporal, and shadow filled need for personal or dispensational salvation is immature at best and offers no truth or light for the faith children who know we must, each, become by being and learning and growing, and transcend such childish expectations of interventions and shortcuts....the very reason the Garden failed.

There is much for each of us and all of us to do to lift ourselves up toward light and life to make way for that which will come next from on high dispensationally. We need to be about our Father's work and quit waiting for miraculous solutions to the consequences of poor choices and priorities and foolish notions. Cousin, you're not helping. But it's your voice...do what you will and say what you will with it. But if you ever want to know what the Book actually says....well, a million words of truth and wisdom await (however none of them say what you claim). Peace.


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You are wise to advise patience and doing of the Father's will.

Still, the alien "abduction" story sounds VERY similar to what was happening long ago.

To wit:

Accordingly, fifty males and fifty females of the Andon and Fonta posterity, representing the survival of the best strains of that unique race, were chosen by the Life Carriers. With one or two exceptions these Andonite contributors to the advancement of the race were strangers to one another. They were assembled from widely separated places by co-ordinated Thought Adjuster direction and seraphic guidance at the threshold of the planetary headquarters of the Prince. Here the one hundred human subjects were given into the hands of the highly skilled volunteer commission from Avalon, who directed the material extraction of a portion of the life plasm of these Andonite contributors to the advancement of the race were strangers to one another. They were assembled from widely separated places by co-ordinated Thought Adjuster direction and seraphic guidance at the threshold of the planetary headquarters of the Prince. Here the one hundred human subjects were given into the hands of the highly skilled volunteer commission from Avalon, who directed the material extraction of a portion of the life plasm of these Andon descendants. This living material was then transferred to the material bodies constructed for the use of the one hundred Jerusemite members of the Prince’s staff.

Urantia Book. Paper 66 The Planetary Prince of Urantia, Section 2, paragraph 7.

I cannot help but wonder if another program is in the works.


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The cellestial beings will not interfere with human evolution. Man must improve genetics threw science. The only intervention will be the some day visitation by Jesus and a select few others who will come to teach. Abduction is about the furthest thing from anything in the urantia book. Also a spiritual being does not view physical reality as anything more than a vague shadow. They could not freely mingle with us even if they wanted.

There is another program that works that the non breather world has started it is called eugenics. Scientific intervention.

Those people came by their own will with their indwelling spirit. The staff were made physical and this event is a once in a planets history type event.

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Yes Boom. Odd choice of quote used...for that particular process was NOT the natives bio upliftment at all, but some mysterious method of rematerialization of the 100 ascender volunteers (like Van!) who came to serve the Prince, was it not? Cousin Uncle, again I say, one should actually read and digest the entirety of the text and expand our comprehension of context and perspective BEFORE posting the rediculous and claiming our Revelation as the source of fiction and personal delusion. Many have come to the Book seeking confirmation of many silly and false preconceptions - oh so dear to each of us....at first - including pet heaven and demon possession and voices from above and the rapture and end of days and, evidently, alien abduction. Good grief...get a grip....and read the Book! Peace.


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(437.2) 39:5.3 1. The Voices of the Garden. When the planetary course of human evolution is attaining its highest biologic level, there always appear the Material Sons and Daughters, the Adams and Eves, to augment the further evolution of the races by an actual contribution of their superior life plasm.

(585.7) 51:5.3 On normal worlds the Planetary Adam and Eve never mate with the evolutionary races. This work of biologic betterment is a function of the Adamic progeny. But these Adamites do not go out among the races; the prince’s staff bring to the Garden of Eden the superior men and women for voluntary mating with the Adamic offspring. And on most worlds it is considered the highest honor to be selected as a candidate for mating with the sons and daughters of the garden.

I dunno . . . sure seems like mating is going on to me.
AND very similar to modern reports of alien interbreeding.

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Yes, and it "seems" like the sun rose in the east this morning....but I assure you it didn't!! Please don't tell us of these "reports"....you've got to be kidding! This site is for readers, students, and believers in TUB. You appear to be none of the above. Your first quote and your second were entirely different times in history and distinct upliftment proceedures, but keep reading...try the whole cloth rather than search engine key words....you're missing the point and the reality presented. Peace. :roll:


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Adam and eve did not have alien bodys they had a more perfect human body than you or I. Also spiritual beings are not really aliens lol they do not interact with physical reality directly.

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Thanks Boom.

Yes, and that's exactly my point. Humans are being guided and uplifted by spiritual beings.
For some people the idea of idea of a celestial realm is so foreign to them that they
label the entities as "alien" when in fact they are spiritual.


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Yea the legends of aliens interbreeding with humans is probably based off these beings. The real aliens though are the non breathers and other worlds with humans. I think people have a basic understanding of spiritual beings they view angels as spiritual these beings are not much different from angels.

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I feel the need to clarify my refutation and rejection of UncleVinnys posts and link.

For everyone who found TUB or were found by Tub, held preconceptions and misconceptions for either correction or to use to reject the Revelation. This is universally true and no one should be judged by whatever beliefs they hold as they approach, read, and study TUB....for such is the way of discovery and adjustment. Obviously, all are welcome here to inquire, argue, and present quotes and opinions for our group reflection and engagement. Uncle's misconceptions are neither unusual or spectacular in any way....far weirder voices and concepts have been presented here.

All are welcome....until the moderators believe lines are crossed....you cannot be too weird or wrong to give voice here.

BUT, when you present the Revelation as evidence of personal or group falsehoods, and lie or distort or misrepresent the Truth contained therein.....YOU HAVE CROSSED THE LINE!!! You may disagree with the Book or you may misunderstand or misinterpret....who hasn't? But to create an internet presence where you claim angels and mortals are having sex and children or aliens are abducting mortals for God's purposes AND you claim our Revelation as your authority, YOU are a shameless fraud and huckster, a deceiver of a vile kind indeed. So either take down your site or correct it sir or be hanged for no one is here for your amusements or manipulations. You write falsehoods and pander to that and those who deserve better. As I said, it's your voice....but do not claim a source that teaches the opposite of what you claim it to as evidence in your support.


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(437.2) 39:5.3 1. The Voices of the Garden. When the planetary course of human evolution is attaining its highest biologic level, there always appear the Material Sons and Daughters, the Adams and Eves, to augment the further evolution of the races by an actual contribution of their superior life plasm.

(851.6) 76:4.8 After becoming established in the second garden on the Euphrates, Adam elected to leave behind as much of his life plasm as possible to benefit the world after his death. Accordingly, Eve was made the head of a commission of twelve on race improvement, and before Adam died this commission had selected 1,682 of the highest type of women on Urantia, and these women were impregnated with the Adamic life plasm.

(585.7) 51:5.3 On normal worlds the Planetary Adam and Eve never mate with the evolutionary races. This work of biologic betterment is a function of the Adamic progeny. But these Adamites do not go out among the races; the prince’s staff bring to the Garden of Eden the superior men and women for voluntary mating with the Adamic offspring. And on most worlds it is considered the highest honor to be selected as a candidate for mating with the sons and daughters of the garden.

(856.5) 77:2.2 The physical members of the Prince’s staff had been constituted sex creatures for the purpose of participating in the plan of procreating offspring embodying the combined qualities of their special order united with those of the selected stock of the Andon tribes, and all of this was in anticipation of the subsequent appearance of Adam. The Life Carriers had planned a new type of mortal embracing the union of the conjoint offspring of the Prince’s staff with the first-generation offspring of Adam and Eve. They had thus projected a plan envisioning a new order of planetary creatures whom they hoped would become the teacher-rulers of human society.


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Again all of these transactions where done by superhuman beings Adam and Eve were humans. Anyone of us would love to mate or procreate with a superhuman being, they would be the most intellegent, beautiful, spiritual humans on the planet. I am sure it was a great honour to be selected. These beings are not savages they would have been the most spiritual and morale of beings on the planet I am sure anything they did was not in an abduction fashion.

The princes staff still had superhuman bodys as well, they were not aliens. All of these bodys are native to our planet.

I am sure the process of putting life plasm into women was done in a humane way, they probably had the same instruments to do it back than that we have now. I am sure their kids had a good life too, they probably lived for a couple hundred years and had superhuman traits, not a bad gig if you ask me.

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(734.3) 65:3.6 Mankind on Urantia must solve its problems of mortal development with the human stocks it has — no more races will evolve from prehuman sources throughout all future time. But this fact does not preclude the possibility of the attainment of vastly higher levels of human development through the intelligent fostering of the evolutionary potentials still resident in the mortal races. That which we, the Life Carriers, do toward fostering and conserving the life strains before the appearance of human will, man must do for himself after such an event and subsequent to our retirement from active participation in evolution. In a general way, man’s evolutionary destiny is in his own hands, and scientific intelligence must sooner or later supersede the random functioning of uncontrolled natural selection and chance survival.


(600.3) 52:7.14 No matter what the special natural history of an individual planet may be, no difference whether a realm has been wholly loyal, tainted with evil, or cursed by sin — no matter what the antecedents may be — sooner or later the grace of God and the ministry of angels will usher in the day of the advent of the Trinity Teacher Sons; and their departure, following their final mission, will inaugurate this superb era of light and life.

(736.6) 65:5.3 The universe of universes, including this small world called Urantia, is not being managed merely to meet our approval nor just to suit our convenience, much less to gratify our whims and satisfy our curiosity. The wise and all-powerful beings who are responsible for universe management undoubtedly know exactly what they are about; and so it becomes Life Carriers and behooves mortal minds to enlist in patient waiting and hearty co-operation with the rule of wisdom, the reign of power, and the march of progress.

(736.7) 65:5.4 There are, of course, certain compensations for tribulation, such as Michael’s bestowal on Urantia. But irrespective of all such considerations, the later celestial supervisors of this planet express complete confidence in the ultimate evolutionary triumph of the human race and in the eventual vindication of our original plans and life patterns.


740.1) 65:8.5 In the cosmic evolutionary laboratories mind is always dominant over matter, and spirit is ever correlated with mind. Failure of these diverse endowments to synchronize and co-ordinate may cause time delays, but if the individual really knows God and desires to find him and become like him, then survival is assured regardless of the handicaps of time. Physical status may handicap mind, and mental perversity may delay spiritual attainment, but none of these obstacles can defeat the whole-souled choice of will.

(740.2) 65:8.6 When physical conditions are ripe, sudden mental evolutions may take place; when mind status is propitious, sudden spiritual transformations may occur; when spiritual values receive proper recognition, then cosmic meanings become discernible, and increasingly the personality is released from the handicaps of time and delivered from the limitations of space.

No extraordinary measures are used or the universal process changed due to planetary or system victimization of default. For there are compensatory and multi-layered potentialities unleashed prior to these dispensational upliftments which in the fullness of time have never failed to eventuate, by evolution, into Light and Life. Urantia has benefited many times over its setback costs and losses and even now is quivering on the brink of societal and spiritual progress toward that CERTAIN outcome. I can find no evidence of anything to support your contentions of angels and humans procreating or angels being capable of such a feat anywhere anytime...but perhaps you can post THAT quote? Peace.


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The angels or seraphim are fascinating helpers....suggest reading Paper 138, page 418 and Paper 139, page 426. You will find that angels do not procreate - one with another and certainly not with anyother life forms. No planet anywhere at any time for any reason has ever been subjected to any form of "abduction" or even the coercion of any mortals....as any student can readily discover for themselves....if they will but take the time. But angels have many forms of service and ministry to us as mortals and throughout our ascension adventure. Peace.

(431.2) 39:2.13 The angels cannot transport combustion bodies — flesh and blood — such as you now have, but they can transport all others, from the lowest morontia to the higher spirit forms. They do not function in the event of natural death. When you finish your earthly career, your body remains on this planet. Your Thought Adjuster proceeds to the bosom of the Father, and these angels are not directly concerned in your subsequent personality reassembly on the identification mansion world. There your new body is a morontia form, one that can enseraphim. You “sow a mortal body” in the grave; you “reap a morontia form” on the mansion worlds.

436.5) 39:5.1 These seraphim maintain headquarters on the system capitals and, though closely associated with the resident Adamic citizens, are primarily assigned to the service of the Planetary Adams, the biologic or physical uplifters of the material races on the evolutionary worlds. The ministering work of angels becomes of increasing interest as it nears the inhabited worlds, as it nears the actual problems faced by the men and women of time who are preparing themselves for the attempt to attain the goal of eternity.


2. Angelic Natures


(419.1) 38:2.1 Angels do not have material bodies, but they are definite and discrete beings; they are of spirit nature and origin. Though invisible to mortals, they perceive you as you are in the flesh without the aid of transformers or translators; they intellectually understand the mode of mortal life, and they share all of man’s nonsensuous emotions and sentiments. They appreciate and greatly enjoy your efforts in music, art, and real humor. They are fully cognizant of your moral struggles and spiritual difficulties. They love human beings, and only good can result from your efforts to understand and love them.

(419.2) 38:2.2 Though seraphim are very affectionate and sympathetic beings, they are not sex-emotion creatures. They are much as you will be on the mansion worlds, where you will “neither marry nor be given in marriage but will be as the angels of heaven.” For all who “shall be accounted worthy to attain the mansion worlds neither marry nor are given in marriage; neither do they die any more, for they are equal to the angels.” Nevertheless, in dealing with sex creatures it is our custom to speak of those beings of more direct descent from the Father and the Son as the sons of God, while referring to the children of the Spirit as the daughters of God. Angels are, therefore, commonly designated by feminine pronouns on the sex planets.

(419.3) 38:2.3 The seraphim are so created as to function on both spiritual and literal levels. There are few phases of morontia or spirit activity which are not open to their ministrations. While in personal status angels are not so far removed from human beings, in certain functional performances seraphim far transcend them. They possess many powers far beyond human comprehension. For example: You have been told that the “very hairs of your head are numbered,” and it is true they are, but a seraphim does not spend her time counting them and keeping the number corrected up to date. Angels possess inherent and automatic (that is, automatic as far as you could perceive) powers of knowing such things; you would truly regard a seraphim as a mathematical prodigy. Therefore, numerous duties which would be tremendous tasks for mortals are performed with exceeding ease by seraphim.

(419.4) 38:2.4 Angels are superior to you in spiritual status, but they are not your judges or accusers. No matter what your faults, “the angels, although greater in power and might, bring no accusation against you.” Angels do not sit in judgment on mankind, neither should individual mortals prejudge their fellow creatures.

(419.5) 38:2.5 You do well to love them, but you should not adore them; angels are not objects of worship. The great seraphim, Loyalatia, when your seer “fell down to worship before the feet of the angel,” said: “See that you do it not; I am a fellow servant with you and with your races, who are all enjoined to worship God.”

(419.6) 38:2.6 In nature and personality endowment the seraphim are just a trifle ahead of mortal races in the scale of creature existence. Indeed, when you are delivered from the flesh, you become very much like them. On the mansion worlds you will begin to appreciate the seraphim, on the constellation spheres to enjoy them, while on Salvington they will share their places of rest and worship with you. Throughout the whole morontia and subsequent spirit ascent, your fraternity with the seraphim will be ideal; your companionship will be superb.
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