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UB informs us that we are in "close proximity" to a world of "non-breathers. Could this be
Mars? Or even the moon?


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UB informs us that we are in "close proximity" to a world of "non-breathers. Could this be
Mars? Or even the moon?



My opinion is that the reference does not speak of our solar system. Also because if there was human life, even if "non-breathers", then someone would notice. On Mars it is seen that there is The ice and maybe of small organisms. On the moon there is nothing. I do not think that these beings are also invisible. :smile:

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I have heard a few reader's speculate that it is a planet located on the Kuiper Cliff that shepards the kuiper cliff objects and that this would be the 12th planet. Also there is one famous sumerian tablet depicting 12 planets and the 12th planet wich is furthest removed from the 11 seems to be of most interest. This tablet or seal is used by new-agers in reference to "Nibiru". Could it be that Nibiru and the annunaki are actually real legends based on the Knowledge that Nodites had of this alien world? Time will tell. Also could it be that because we are in isolation that this means from our neighboring world as well?

Also do the shields that are used for shunting meteor's on this alien world also act to absorb sunlight for energy thus making the planet somewhat invisible to our telescopes because it is not reflecting much sunlight? I don't know? hahah. Scientists speculate that there is a large planet on the Kuiper Cliff and that for some odd reason they are unable to see it. Could the only explanation to a large invisible planet be that it is in quarantine and/or it is absorbing sunlight making it incredibly difficult to spot? I don't know? Hahaha

The tablet that I am reffering to is the -Cylinder Seal- made famous by new-ager Sitchin.

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I know something about Nibiru and Sitchin.
I have always regarded them as science fiction.
If we had a planet that size, then surely we would have our scientists said. Even if you do not see with the naked eye, we now have instruments that can detect planets of all sizes.
All these legends are born thanks to the stories handed down relating to Caligastia.
Or even the name of the city of Atlantis.
Over time, everything was confused. We're talking about 500,000 years ago.

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That is what makes the Kuiper Cliff interesting is that scientists have said they have a detected a planet there.
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Patryk Lykawka of Kobe University has claimed that the gravitational attraction of an unseen large planetary object, perhaps the size of Earth or Mars, might be responsible.[59][60]
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The evidence for the existence of "Planet X" is compelling, says Alan Stern, an astronomer at the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado. But although calculations show that such a body could account for the Kuiper cliff (Icarus, vol 160, p 32), no one has ever seen this fabled 10th planet.
The most obvious evidence being the Cliff itself. For a cliff to form like that you have to have a sheparding object, and to create a cliff that massive you would need a planet sized sheparding planet. So the evidence is pretty obvious. Also the spacing between pluto and Sedna provides a huge gap in the middle where the Kuiper Cliff would be about in the middle, just where you would expect a planet.

Also the U.B say's that we have 12 planets in our solar system, and so far we have only discovered 11 planets. So somehow we are completely not seing one planet in our solar system an easy explanation for that would be that. A) its far from earth and b) it does not reflect much sunlight because it has a protective shield that shunts meteors and absorbs sunlight making it practically invisible. There is only one object in our solar system (close proximity) that is that large and detectable but not yet discovered and also has alot of meteor's hitting it on a daily basis and that would be this sheparding planet.

Obviously the mythology's of Eden and the Nodites are what we see in new-age beliefs alot of the time, but what if mixed into all those beliefs is the knowledge of this world? Clearly the Nodites and Adamites would have known of this planet and would have mentioned it at various times.

New-agers (IMO) have their hands on all 3 mythologies at once. Im summary though, we have instruments that detect these planets and by the recordings of some instrutments we do detect a planet there. However for some reason we do not see anything. What if the meteor shunting installations that cover the planet from debris are used to absorb sunlight as well, and thus not reflect any sunlight back towards us when we look at it? It would make the entire planet invisible and appear as a dark blot in the night sky, the only evidence would be it blocking out the stars behind it. It makes sense that they would use these device's to absorb sunlight instead of reflecting it back out because we all know sunlight has a lot of energy etc in it. This would explain why a large planet that is clearly sheparding the kuiper cliff is invisible.

I don't want to give new-agers to much credit but clearly they are right about beings from other planets mating with humans hahaha, thankfully though because of the u.b we don't get all the story's confused and mixed up. Sitchen may not have been right about everything or alot of things, but the u.b does say there are 12 planets just as sitchen read it from the Cylinder seal.

If you look at that Cylinder Seal made famous by sitchin you can say its a just random luck that they depict a solar system with 12 planets around the solar system but maybe its not (side note there are 12 plants according to u.b). Also the Cylinder seal you can see that their Leader (IMO) a depiction of a nodite. Is pointing towards the farthest removed planet from the rest. Of coarse it could all just be blind luck that some sumerian thousands of years ago happened to get the solar system right. (IMO) this nodite is pointing to the non-breather world and teaching humans about this place. Of coarse that is speculation, but that picture sure is fascinating.

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Also the U.B say's that we have 12 planets in our solar system, and so far we have only discovered 11 planets.


you could tell me where TUB speaks of the 12 pine trees?
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These two largest of the solar system planets have remained largely gaseous to this day, not even yet having cooled off to the point of complete condensation or solidification.

(656.7) 57:5.11 The gas-contraction nucleuses of the other ten planets soon reached the stage of solidification and so began to draw to themselves increasing quantities of the meteoric matter circulating in near-by space.


2 Largest of the solar system planets = Jupiter, Saturn.Than you have the "Other ten planets". So that is 12, and than theres that cylinder seal of the sumerians depicting 12 planets, and the furthest away being singled out by their leader by his hand pointing, seems to have some connection, though its all speculative haha. Still how was is that the Sumerians depicted a solar system with 12 planets, and were they instructed of these 12 planets by their believed to be god leader who was about a 1/3 taller than them? perhaps it was a nodite instructing the sumerians of the solar system and pointing out the non-breather world? Sounds crazy hahaha, but yea never know right.

What I find interesting though is that we have not yet discovered that 12th planet, you would think a planet would be easy to spot!!. How is it that we cannot find this last one? UNLESS it had a shield surrounding the planet that absorbed sunlight/shunted meteors!....Making it invisible.

So you have a sumerian seal of a god pointing towards the furthest removed planet "kuiper belt region perhaps", and you have astronomer's saying that there should be a planet in the kuiper cliff. maybe there is a connection, or maybe its this is all like the davinci code, where someone like me and other readers are seing somethingthat is not there hahaha, either way its good fun to speculate.

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I had the craziest dream of this non-breather planet last night!! hahaha. But thats for another forum! lol I know the rules ;).

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Right.
But the question is perhaps not the main number.
We have discovered many planets, such as:
mercury
Venus
earth
Mars
Ceres
Jupiter
Saturn
Uranus
Neptune
Pluto
Eris (2003 UB313 - 136,199)
2003 EL61 (136108) and 2005 FY9
and this is only a short list of hundreds of planets and planets were born.

The problem is if they actually another planet hidden somewhere in the solar system.

But in order to hide, when it should be great?

But in the end, even if we find Nibiru around the corner, it would be a planet not breathing?
The term, close, envi case is to be understood in our solar system or outside it?

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But, beyond the already reasonable doubt, it is certain that if there was a hypothetical planet named Nibiru, is inhabited by not breathing, then they would be made alive.

From the way he talks TUB, this planet has never had any contact with us, everything suggests that it is quite far from our solar system.
But at the same time, not so far away.

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In my opinion, is this kind of research that we will find that kind of planet is not breathing.
Doubts remain as to how this will happen and when.

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There are better pictures of the Kuiper cliff. It is a sharp cliff and the kuiper belt that is just like saturn's ring system. The Saturn ring system is made sharp by a tiny sheparding moon making them into a sharp line. That same sharp line is on the Kuiper Belt and yet we are unable to see the large object making this sharp line. It would take a earth sized object to create that sharp line on the kuiper cliff.

The only thing that could create that cliff is a planet sized object, and that is what is puzzling scientists as to why they cannot see it. Of coarse if this planet had electric installations that covered the entire surface and absorbed sunlight it would be invisible. Which we are told the non-breather world does have.

You can't see a planet that does not reflect any sunlight. Also there is no atmosphere on this planet seing as it is a non-breather world so you wouldn't see a thing, if it was absorbing sun.

(564.2) 49:3.6 You would be more than interested in the planetary conduct of this type of mortal because such a race of beings inhabits a sphere in close proximity to Urantia.


The words "close proximity" definitely could mean just outside the solar system, but the words "more than interested in thier planetary conduct" could mean that they have already made contact with our planet. Or that we are about to.

Alpha centauri is the closest star to our solar system and that is 4 light year's away = not close proximity, and we as 21st century human beings would not be "more than interested" in beings 4 light years away. It would be "more than interesting" to humans far in the future. The Non-breather world is likely a planet that is in our solar system.

Heres the 11 (Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Venus, Neptune, Pluto, (4 moons) and Eris (has one moon) and Triton.(57.5.13) the 3 retrograde motion planets captured = Venus, Uranus and Triton. Triton could have cracked into pluto when it was captured making it so small and throwing its orbit at of wack. Etleast that would explain all the anomalies of Pluto.

There is a nice gap between Eris and Neptune if you look in the middle you get the Kuiper Cliff, which would be perfect spacing for a planet.

The only reason we are being given this information is because we are so similar. (72.0.2)

(49.3.3)---They explain how this planet has hi-tech electronic installations that cover the entire planet from meteor's. These installations that cover the planet probably absorb sunlight which is why we cannot see it. A planet the size of earth could be hidden in plain sight if it did not reflect sunlight.

Nodites would have knowledge of this planet, the Nodites knew the basics of the cosmology of the universe, the non-breather world would have been basic knowledge to them just like the earth orbiting the sun. They would have told regular humans aboug this planet, "sumerian cylinder seal".

Of the original 1,984 secondary midwayers we lost 873 (77.7.2). Secondary Midwayers are essential to the planet, also the number of midwayers is always an exact number on a planet that is there for a reason. It could be that we did get some secondary midwayer help from this planet.

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Anything can be.
The fact remains that if it were pinaneta of our solar system, they would have said (maybe) who was very close to us, was indeed of our own solar system.

Electrical systems that absorb solar energy?
I do not know, I'm not an engineer but it seems more to serve to disintegrate the asteroids.

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The fact remains that if it were pinaneta of our solar system, they would have said (maybe) who was very close to us, was indeed of our own solar system.


They pretty much are saying it is, the fact they say there are 12 planets and we have only found 11 and the non-breather world is in "close proximity to our planet" and we would be " more than interested in its planety affairs" is pretty much saying this planet is on our doorstep, they all but say where it is. The next closest planet system is not in close proximity to Urantia, not even really close proximity to our solar system -4 lightyears is not close to urantia- it would be close to our solar system, and I am sure if that was the case they would have said "in close proximity to your solar system" instead of "in close proximity to urantia". It doesn't make sense that modern day man would be interested in the planetary affairs of a planet that is 4 lighyears away.

They do say there are 12 planets and we have found 11 so far, so the fact we cannot find a planet means that we are actually missing one planet, wether it is the non-breather world or not is a mystery, but it would make more sense that it was, versus the centauri system which is the next closest place a planet could be where there is a sun -4 light years away- is not in close proximity to urantia and we wouldnt be "more than interested in a planets government affairs" It makes sense that it is in close proximity to our Planet as stated. The fact they say this planet is in close proximity to our planet, leads to reason that it would be in our system. The next closest star "centuari" even though it is 4 light years away, that is INCREDIBLY far and not in close proximity to our "solar system" not urantia. They would have stated it was in close proximity to your -solar system- if it were the next closest solar system.

They are not going to say exactly where it is because they say that in even giving information about this planet they had to get "special permission". Clearly because of rebellion and where we are on the evolutionary scale we were not meant to have contact with these being's, but now with the 5th revelation we would be "more than interested".

One more thing is that thousands of years ago this planet would have been visible from the night sky because these installations are likely not thousands and thousands of years old. So there should be some evidence of a 12th planet in our history - Cylinder Seal-.

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Electrical systems that absorb solar energy?
I do not know, I'm not an engineer but it seems more to serve to disintegrate the asteroids.
If they can use technology to shunt meteor's than they have advanced far enough to fit that technology with the ability to absorb sunlight. It does not take much to absorb sunlight and clearly they have advanced a little further than we have because the u.b states as much, so they would have that technology available. You can absorb sunlight on solid structure's that would serve as protection, its not rocket science. It wouldn't make sense to shelter you're planet and reflect/ get rid of all that sunlight, that would be a horrible waste of energy, the sun's rays are filled with energy. I am sure this planet being so far removed would not reflect all that sunlight, and that would happen if all you had was a concrete shelter over your planet.

If you have a shelter covering all inhabitable parts of your planet you would logically not use that shelter to reflect sunlight back to the sky, you would be robbing yourself of soooo much energy and we know that this planet has etleast in some parts advanced beyond our current north american society, so they would have sun absorbing technology. If you have mastered electricity to the point where you can stop meteor's with electric installments you have progressed to the point where you know how to absorb sunlight in some way shape or form. After all with all that electricity you are gona need some power, and what better source of power than sunlight? The u.b even talks about the energy contained in the sun's ray's and it is by far the most abundant source of energy available.

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The 12 planet? Yes, but currently are 9 official planets.
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