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We UB readers would never claim that we are the only ones who will attain salvation. We would also never claim to hold a monopoly on truth. Therefore we would never consider ourselves part of an elite club.

However, with that in mind, some of us might claim to hold the most complete or whole truth (the same way Sikhs and the LDS do). I personally hold a sense of pride in myself that I am a chaser of truth and knowledge. I'll explain...

While the UB is not for everyone to believe in, everyone ought to at least read the book.

For those who have never heard of the Book, don't have it in their language, are unable to read (being blind) or any other legitimate reason they have not read the book, it is up to us to make the teachings of the papers available to them.

For those who don't read it because they don't like reading, feel overwhelmed by the length or advanced language, dismiss it as a 'work of Satan' or assert that it is void of value, I lament for those people. I hoped my brother's friend to whom I introduced the book to would immediately go on the Internet and either purchase the book on Amazon or read it for free online. If not, that makes me sad.

I take pride in myself that no minor obstacles will stop me in seeking knowledge and truth. When I am reading my UB in the cafe I frequent, I look at the people around me and think "If only everyone here knew what a great treasure I am holding in my hands..." That's not saying I am better than others, but rather I hold one exceptionally special skill.

So with that said, are you a 'proud reader'? And am I wrong to feel this way?


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Hi William,
You are not wrong to feel that way, and you are not alone. You are right though- just because one reads the book does not make him/her special or place them on a pedestal above the rest- rather, I would say that it is an illumination to us who read and embrace the book. We have expanded our minds and entertained other possibilities as to the meaning of Deity, the origin of life, and our eventuality, a far greater advance than those who have closed their minds, refusing to entertain the 'what if this is the truth?' scenario.

I meet with a lot of people, many of them well educated, who dread questioning matters concerning faith- they fear the unknown. But they believe in hell, and that alone is enough to make them align themselves with God just to escape his wrath. It is a pity to see someone lose such great opportunities o even deny others such opportunities due to stagnant and archaic beliefs.

The U.B is a reassuring book; it illuminates and does not demand to be believed in. I think it is evolutionary progress we're undergoing; our minds have expanded such that books as the bible raise more questions than answers, never illuminate us as we want to, and we are not satisfied to believe in an accidental universe without an intelligent cause. Years will come when again our descendants will find this same book (U.B) not illuminating enough since their minds will have expanded to exponential levels, and another epoch will dawn.

We current readers of the book are the pioneers/revolutionaries; and we will meet with opposition from those who resist change... just as history has taught us. Just think; how can a person from the first century describe the workings of a smartphone? That is how I see the bible.

Not to fret though; if you embraced the book, someone else will; and another and another. Just remember, the fact that you yearned for truth and sought it (or it sought you) means others are doing the same. To us who have the know-how, it is our chance to tactfully and wisely introduce the book to the other seekers.


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I also have to add that the lack of an institution that requires membership is a major appeal in being a UB reader. No middle men to grovel to in order to have that personal experience and gain spiritual growth. I probably wouldn't be reading the UB if it demanded I pledged my loyalty to the Urantia Foundation (whose only task is to make the Book available).

My sense of pride for my willingness to read the UB is the equivalent of getting a good grade in an exam or getting a promotion at work. It's not in being a member of an elite club.


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Hmm interesting perspective wiffinzebe. But no the assurance that tUB will be available at the fingertips of readers for all future generations is not given; it is uncertain. The best attempt is to keep the teachings alive in one's household, and to be observant of the opportunities during socialisation, where a certain paper is entirely relevent to another's situation. Families actually need to preserve this teaching, and then people who grow up in the robust understanding, will have a better understanding of their world. What pride can you have, if you know that the mission for you as the Apostles is the same: to save as many believers for the morontial journey to Paradise as possible. In this stage, I would regard not pride, but the fear of what you tell yourself if a soul that you encountered in this experience did not survive, even when you had that opportunity, to turn over a few issues with them and keep their course on even keel.

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Hmm interesting perspective wiffinzebe. But no the assurance that tUB will be available at the fingertips of readers for all future generations is not given; it is uncertain. The best attempt is to keep the teachings alive in one's household, and to be observant of the opportunities during socialisation, where a certain paper is entirely relevent to another's situation. Families actually need to preserve this teaching, and then people who grow up in the robust understanding, will have a better understanding of their world. What pride can you have, if you know that the mission for you as the Apostles is the same: to save as many believers for the morontial journey to Paradise as possible. In this stage, I would regard not pride, but the fear of what you tell yourself if a soul that you encountered in this experience did not survive, even when you had that opportunity, to turn over a few issues with them and keep their course on even keel.


Horse Feathers!

Your best advice is fear? Dear Lord help us. Another completely illogical inversion of the Revelation and perversion of the teachings. We should save others out of fear for our future guilt about those we failed to save? Hmmm.....

I understand the question William. While we must be careful with "pride" and especially spiritual pride, there is a great and inherent internal rewarding satisfaction we are blessed by whenever we learn, discover, discern, and successfully achieve and apply knowledge and perceptually pierce understanding. We are designed, engineered, and built that way.

It is that Andite blood and violet gene pool I think which drives adventuring and discovery and the fearless and relentless pursuit of truth, beauty, and goodness that drives so many forward into greater knowledge and experience and understanding and wisdom. Only some of us will pursue this urge to discover despite the uncertainty, the disappointments, the failures, and even physical or financial risks and all suffering which may result. Some of us simply cannot "play it safe" or abide within the status quo. My grandpa always admonished me, "Do Something...even if you don't do it well or you do it wrong....you'll learn more than doing nothing!!"

It is such ones that lead humanity forward I think, and even if/when personal results may be humble in group effect, still is there great satisfaction and fulfillment in the minds of those who dare to learn and aspire! I think this is the work of the higher adjutants and a demonstration of the differences between animal and human mind...it is a species trait. But it is also a feature and function of morontia mind...to aspire and hold ideals!

Such people create excitement and share their enthusiasm with others and contribute to social momentum. Spiritual fruit cannot be hidden and those who prosper in the spirit led life need not fear their uncertainties or disappointments or failures, but rather, celebrate their victories over animal indolence and ignorance. The victories erase all failures and prod us forward into further adventure and more victories!

Many of us believe that we did not find the UB....but that it found us...because we were looking for its contents. There are some very interesting tales about "How the UB Found Me". My own included!!

The teacher appears when the tadpole is ready!

Cheers. 8)

I think the following describes what you mean William.....

6. MARKS OF RELIGIOUS LIVING

100:6.1 Evolutionary religions and revelatory religions may differ markedly in method, but in motive there is great similarity. Religion is not a specific function of life; rather is it a mode of living. True religion is a wholehearted devotion to some reality which the religionist deems to be of supreme value to himself and for all mankind. And the outstanding characteristics of all religions are: unquestioning loyalty and wholehearted devotion to supreme values. This religious devotion to supreme values is shown in the relation of the supposedly irreligious mother to her child and in the fervent loyalty of nonreligionists to an espoused cause.

100:6.2 The accepted supreme value of the religionist may be base or even false, but it is nevertheless religious. A religion is genuine to just the extent that the value which is held to be supreme is truly a cosmic reality of genuine spiritual worth.

100:6.3 The marks of human response to the religious impulse embrace the qualities of nobility and grandeur. The sincere religionist is conscious of universe citizenship and is aware of making contact with sources of superhuman power. He is thrilled and energized with the assurance of belonging to a superior and ennobled fellowship of the sons of God. The consciousness of self-worth has become augmented by the stimulus of the quest for the highest universe objectives—supreme goals.

100:6.4 The self has surrendered to the intriguing drive of an all-encompassing motivation which imposes heightened self-discipline, lessens emotional conflict, and makes mortal life truly worth living. The morbid recognition of human limitations is changed to the natural consciousness of mortal shortcomings, associated with moral determination and spiritual aspiration to attain the highest universe and superuniverse goals. And this intense striving for the attainment of supermortal ideals is always characterized by increasing patience, forbearance, fortitude, and tolerance.

100:6.5 But true religion is a living love, a life of service. The religionist's detachment from much that is purely temporal and trivial never leads to social isolation, and it should not destroy the sense of humor. Genuine religion takes nothing away from human existence, but it does add new meanings to all of life; it generates new types of enthusiasm, zeal, and courage. It may even engender the spirit of the crusader, which is more than dangerous if not controlled by spiritual insight and loyal devotion to the commonplace social obligations of human loyalties.

100:6.6 One of the most amazing earmarks of religious living is that dynamic and sublime peace, that peace which passes all human understanding, that cosmic poise which betokens the absence of all doubt and turmoil. Such levels of spiritual stability are immune to disappointment. Such religionists are like the Apostle Paul, who said: "I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor anything else shall be able to separate us from the love of God."

100:6.7 There is a sense of security, associated with the realization of triumphing glory, resident in the consciousness of the religionist who has grasped the reality of the Supreme, and who pursues the goal of the Ultimate.

100:6.8 Even evolutionary religion is all of this in loyalty and grandeur because it is a genuine experience. But revelatory religion is excellent as well as genuine. The new loyalties of enlarged spiritual vision create new levels of love and devotion, of service and fellowship; and all this enhanced social outlook produces an enlarged consciousness of the Fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man.

100:6.9 The characteristic difference between evolved and revealed religion is a new quality of divine wisdom which is added to purely experiential human wisdom. But it is experience in and with the human religions that develops the capacity for subsequent reception of increased bestowals of divine wisdom and cosmic insight.


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