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SEla_Kelly wrote: fanofVan wrote: SEla_Kelly wrote: Fine.
But then, I need to trust my perception. I disagree. It is your perception that seems to so often get you in the weeds and ditches of misunderstanding and misrepresentation of the text. I must learn to trust my perception, even if my expression is not wrought of ultimate and final truth values. I want to observe beauty, know truth, and recognise goodness, and work in a silent regards to assist the life of God within every development of the grand universe. In this respect, you are speaking about issues of personal discernment, but be careful. As much as you would contest the actual truth, which I espouse through my expression, you are hurting yourself with the "He is" misidentificational error, which can be just as detrimental as "I am" misrepresentation. The "He is" applies to my own thoughts, as I am the one who thinks "He is", often enough during bouts of self-accusation something that another person does or says, something that happens per se, I will blame "He did this". But I do this, I am the one usually enough who has set the foundation of the universe off-kilter enough to either provoke the errors of accusation, or else not deal soundly enough with every situation I invovled in. If it is my expression which the group would deem to be in error, then this would be in the apprehension or judgment of the Quorum within the group. I would like to foment and solidify the guidelines of Quorum within JEsusonian Truthbook. I do not regard the Thought Adjuster, as an individual fragment of God the Father within every human individual, as an experiencial actuality (and I accept that the ways of the Thought Adjuster may be unsearchable as is the Universal Father): I regard the Thought Adjuster as a theoretical possibility, but maybe people in Society who actually do have a connection with their Thought Adjusters "Thought Controllers", have acted in a fatherly way to help me find work and advice me as to reality approach.
Thank you again Stephen for confirming that you do not believe the contents and claims of the UB. Despite your many frequent proclamations of belief, you are finally demonstrating a more truthful and accurate portrayal of your actual lack of belief and many disagreements with the contents of the Papers.
Your disbelief is fine and not unusual or unwelcome. We gather here as students, not a body of professed believers. Neither are we here to convince you or any others or to convert you to any cause or belief. My objection to your prior posts is the fact of your repetitious contradictions of the text with your own beliefs which conflict directly with the text in so many and such profound ways while you endlessly proclaim your belief in the UB.
Your latest claim here is specific and far more direct than usual (thank you): you do not believe the Adjusters are an actuality but only some theoretical possibility. Our prior disagreements have nothing at all to do with me or anyone else judging someone because they do not believe the UB. No, no. It is about misquoting, misrepresenting, twisting, misstating, and contradicting the UB AS IF one were representing its contents and AS IF that person were a believer in the teachings and AS IF one were a sincere student of the Papers. For, IMO, you are none of those Stephen. It is very insincere to claim to be a believer and yet know you are not and to claim the Papers say something they certainly do not and to be entirely indifferent to the actual contents and teachings while contradicting them and knowingly so.
I much prefer your honesty demonstrated in this post. It IS sincere. You sincerely disagree with and disbelieve the UB's teachings and consider them only to be a "theoretical possibility" and not an "actuality". Thank you for your honesty...finally!
What we do here Stephen is study the contents of the UB. No one here can prove them and no one here is going to try to. We simply read, study, share and seek to understand those contents. Some of us apply them to our daily life and find truth which adjusts our perspective of reality and brings change to our motives, intentions, priorities, and choices in life and some come to believe the contents and claims of the authors. But here, we are students first.
You must decide the value to you of such reading, study, and sharing. I hope you will come to accept that those beliefs, claims, proclamations, theories, and declarations you make here will always be compared to and contrasted with the Papers. That's what we do here. Your disbelief does not entitle you to additional accommodations. But it is helpful to know. Your beliefs are your own to choose Stephen. For myself, I have no doubt you are a God believer and you walk the Pilgrim's Path to Paradise...no matter our disagreements about the UB or any other thing.
Your proclaimed disbelief explains much about your many posts and topics here over the years. Peace.
  
107:0.5 (1176.5) It is the Adjuster who creates within man that unquenchable yearning and incessant longing to be like God, to attain Paradise, and there before the actual person of Deity to worship the infinite source of the divine gift. The Adjuster is the living presence which actually links the mortal son with his Paradise Father and draws him nearer and nearer to the Father. The Adjuster is our compensatory equalization of the enormous universe tension which is created by the distance of man’s removal from God and by the degree of his partiality in contrast with the universality of the eternal Father.
108:6.2 (1193.1) No matter what the previous status of the inhabitants of a world, subsequent to the bestowal of a divine Son and after the bestowal of the Spirit of Truth upon all humans, the Adjusters flock to such a world to indwell the minds of all normal will creatures. Following the completion of the mission of a Paradise bestowal Son, these Monitors truly become the “kingdom of heaven within you.” Through the bestowal of the divine gifts the Father makes the closest possible approach to sin and evil, for it is literally true that the Adjuster must coexist in the mortal mind even in the very midst of human unrighteousness. The indwelling Adjusters are particularly tormented by those thoughts which are purely sordid and selfish; they are distressed by irreverence for that which is beautiful and divine, and they are virtually thwarted in their work by many of man’s foolish animal fears and childish anxieties.
108:6.8 (1194.1) You humans have begun an endless unfolding of an almost infinite panorama, a limitless expanding of never-ending, ever-widening spheres of opportunity for exhilarating service, matchless adventure, sublime uncertainty, and boundless attainment. When the clouds gather overhead, your faith should accept the fact of the presence of the indwelling Adjuster, and thus you should be able to look beyond the mists of mortal uncertainty into the clear shining of the sun of eternal righteousness on the beckoning heights of the mansion worlds of Satania.
110:4.2 (1207.2) The Thought Adjuster is engaged in a constant effort so to spiritualize your mind as to evolve your morontia soul; but you yourself are mostly unconscious of this inner ministry. You are quite incapable of distinguishing the product of your own material intellect from that of the conjoint activities of your soul and the Adjuster.
110:6.6 (1210.1) Every decision you make either impedes or facilitates the function of the Adjuster; likewise do these very decisions determine your advancement in the circles of human achievement. It is true that the supremacy of a decision, its crisis relationship, has a great deal to do with its circle-making influence; nevertheless, numbers of decisions, frequent repetitions, persistent repetitions, are also essential to the habit-forming certainty of such reactions.
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