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In the thread titled "Superchemical Storage Battery" something I had posted was clarified by Malaku but since my response isn't relative to the topic of the thread I thought I would start a new one to explore the actuality of the ideas expressed.
Quote: Malaku said.
“there's nothing hypothetical about metaphysics...the world of fact and the world of value have common causation and the experience of Unity is very real. it doesn't go by unnoticed...it's a landmark experience.
well unless you see "the world of fact and the world of value have common causation" as a mere hypothesis then yeah metaphysics is hypothetical...and when that hypothesis forms the focus of the philosophy skepticism and sophistry enters because it lacks the balancing cohesiveness and stabilization of scientific fact and spiritual experience."
Makalu,
Shouldn’t we must keep in mind this truth from Paper 103.
Quote: 103:6.2 When man approaches the study and examination of his universe from the outside, he brings into being the various physical sciences; when he approaches the research of himself and the universe from the inside, he gives origin to theology and metaphysics. The later art of philosophy develops in an effort to harmonize the many discrepancies which are destined at first to appear between the findings and teachings of these two diametrically opposite avenues of approaching the universe of things and beings.
True unity though conceptual in the human mind, is actual and real only as a personal experience. This bridge cannot be crossed except by the experience of realizing revelation, the discovery of God as real in personal experience. The mind identifies, the will decides, the spirit of God reality-izes (111:3.6 Mind knows quantity, reality, meanings. But quality—values—is felt. That which feels is the mutual creation of mind, which knows, and the associated spirit, which reality-izes.) via an experience of feeling which is identifiable by the personality as “not of my being”, as in “I did not generate this with my willpower”, though I allowed it to manifest by that same will. The identification of this presence and the realization that it is from beyond “me” is what generates the astounding feeling of which the Urantia Book speaks. (99:5.9 Primitive man made little effort to put his religious convictions into words. His religion was danced out rather than thought out. Modern men have thought out many creeds and created many tests of religious faith. Future religionists must live out their religion, dedicate themselves to the wholehearted service of the brotherhood of man. It is high time that man had a religious experience so personal and so sublime that it could be realized and expressed only by "feelings that lie too deep for words.") When this happens, the whole basic format upon which the mind has formulated its concepts of reality is permanently altered by this realization. But this is not a onetime event, it is only the beginning of an eternal discovery process. At this stage of the game all we can do is will to do the will of God, apply our faith and submit to the experience of becoming; of transferring our identity to our soul’s experience of actualization, i.e., will to become the will of God.
When we do that, we realize that metaphysics is purely hypothetical; that is it is mind created by a human person. It is not real, as in God sourced. Put another way, it is not discovered, it is developed by us, in our minds. It is our attempt to fill the void the Urantia Book reveals as a reality known as Morontia. It is unreal because it is always theoretical, i.e., unrealizable. It may be seen as a necessary part of the construction of our scaffolding by which we attempt the traversing of the gap between matter and spirit in concept; between fact and value in realization, but it is scaffolding none-the-less and as such it will be discarded for real experience in spirit perception enabled by our faith alone. Perception of fact, the realization of material reality, is a natural function of the human mind’s experience. Perception of value, the realization of spiritual reality, is guided by our Thought Adjusters and all additional spiritual sources but is only enabled to be realized by us through an act of our willpower called faith. As you said of such, it is a landmark experience, see 99:5.9 above. Even though, while such a feeling may be quite vague to us here on Urantia, we are informed that it will be substantiated by our reawakened consciousness as Morontia creatures as we open to that sense of reality which we will finally realize actual consciousness of value. Finally at some point, we will fuse with our Thought Adjusters and become the living reality of value (true spirits).
Diametrically opposed is what we must learn to accept. The human perspective and consciousness versus the spirit perspective and consciousness. The human and the adjuster becoming one being. The adjuster adopts our personal reality, we realize and adopt his value. We are challenged to perceive the difference between that which has value and that which is value. The Urantia Book has value, the indwelling spirit, the Thought Adjuster is value.
Now what do you call this answer? Metaphysics? philosophy? I call it my current view of reality as a result of faith and commitment to know God.
Jim
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