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In the Urantia Book they speak about marriage what do they think about Gay Marriage? I have heard the book is gay friendly ? Could any body fill me in what is in the Book


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same thing as in the bible about what jesus said about it, nothing. there's an entire paper devoted to the subject Paper 83 THE MARRIAGE INSTITUTION. my view is that these are body parts, not eternal and it's two people making an eternal commitment to one another. anyone who reads and understands tub is going to be gay friendly simply because it is an evolved way to be. for a human world however in my view sex is for procreation. 68:2.9 The function of marriage in evolution is the insurance of race survival, not merely the realization of personal happiness; self-maintenance and self-perpetuation are the real objects of the home. Self-gratification is incidental and not essential except as an incentive insuring sex association. Nature demands survival, but the arts of civilization continue to increase the pleasures of marriage and the satisfactions of family life. 82:1.8 As an institution, marriage, from its early beginnings down to modern times, pictures the social evolution of the biologic propensity for self-perpetuation. The perpetuation of the evolving human species is made certain by the presence of this racial mating impulse, an urge which is loosely called sex attraction. This great biologic urge becomes the impulse hub for all sorts of associated instincts, emotions, and usages — physical, intellectual, moral, and social.

any other kind of sex will not last on a world in perpetuity, on a world long settled in light and life which is the end result for all evolutionary spheres like urantia, however tub does not address this issue either. their are some groups out there beginning this philosophy of sex is only for procreation and a sexless marriage can be a good thing, like some advanced hindu groups. 55:4.22 The seventh stage of light and life. Early in the seventh epoch the Trinity Teacher counselor of the Planetary Sovereign is joined by a volunteer adviser sent by the Ancients of Days, and later on they will be augmented by a third counselor coming from the superuniverse Supreme Executive. 55:6.9 If the mortals of distraught Urantia could only view one of these more advanced worlds long settled in light and life, they would nevermore question the wisdom of the evolutionary scheme of creation. Were there no future of eternal creature progression, still the superb evolutionary attainments of the mortal races on such settled worlds of perfected achievement would amply justify man’s creation on the worlds of time and space.

here's an empathetic paragraph for gays: 83:6.4 While pursuing the monogamic goal of the ideal pair marriage, which is, after all, something of a monopolistic sex association, society must not overlook the unenviable situation of those unfortunate men and women who fail to find a place in this new and improved social order, even when having done their best to co-operate with, and enter into, its requirements. Failure to gain mates in the social arena of competition may be due to insurmountable difficulties or multitudinous restrictions which the current mores have imposed. Truly, monogamy is ideal for those who are in, but it must inevitably work great hardship on those who are left out in the cold of solitary existence.

and tubs only interest is in monogamy 83:6.6 Monogamy always has been, now is, and forever will be the idealistic goal of human sex evolution. This ideal of true pair marriage entails self-denial, and therefore does it so often fail just because one or both of the contracting parties are deficient in that acme of all human virtues, rugged self-control.

however eternally the original adam and eve are a man and a woman married on the system capital of edentia: 83:8.5 Nevertheless, there is an ideal of marriage on the spheres on high. On the capital of each local system the Material Sons and Daughters of God do portray the height of the ideals of the union of man and woman in the bonds of marriage and for the purpose of procreating and rearing offspring. After all, the ideal mortal marriage is humanly sacred.

jesus on the subject: 167:5.3 Though Jesus refused to be drawn into a controversy with the Pharisees concerning divorce, he did proclaim a positive teaching of the highest ideals regarding marriage. He exalted marriage as the most ideal and highest of all human relationships. 167:5.7 After Jesus had talked about marriage and divorce, later on that evening his apostles privately asked many additional questions, and his answers to these inquiries relieved their minds of many misconceptions. At the conclusion of this conference Jesus said: “Marriage is honorable and is to be desired by all men. The fact that the Son of Man pursues his earth mission alone is in no way a reflection on the desirability of marriage. That I should so work is the Father’s will, but this same Father has directed the creation of male and female, and it is the divine will that men and women should find their highest service and consequent joy in the establishment of homes for the reception and training of children, in the creation of whom these parents become copartners with the Makers of heaven and earth. And for this cause shall a man leave his father and mother and shall cleave to his wife, and they two shall become as one.”

the fact that jesus says "male and female" and nothing else means that gay marriage is not eternal on urantia. there are too many problems on this sphere to worry about the smaller matters yet like gay marriage or abortion, on a world of really good beings, a world of light and life, it naturally happens that these things don't happen anymore.

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Dear fmbmack,

Thanks for writing, and welcome to the Forum...glad to have you here!

Rather than try to cite chapter and verse for you here, I am giving you a link to a recent letter that was received on another area of our site. In it are other links to even earlier Q+A about this subject. I think you'll find the answer to your question there...

What does the Urantia book say about LGBT relationships and marriage?
http://www.truthbook.com/faq/dsp_viewFAQ.cfm?faqID=1706

The Urantia Book is not full of things not-to-do...there are few moral judgments made, but one is encouraged to use one's highest thinking to figure out the problems and issues in one's life. Jesus was the same way. He did not generally comment on social mores, or tell people what "not" to do. His only injunction was to "love one another," and to treat other as you think he would treat them...

Anyway - I hope that the link I gave you will help. Again, I welcome you here, and hope you'll come back soon!

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They don't really say anything to my knowledge about sexual attraction to the same sex. They say that we should learn to love other human beings regardless of sex,age,race or creed though :). Sexual interaction is just something we go threw here on this world, and after that we enjoy different types of expression of our love so I guess it's probably one of those erronous things :).

For all intents and purpose's the love we feel down below is replaced by a spiritual love in our hearts in eternity :lol:

For children on our world though their mind is literally dependant upon both the biological mother and the father's mind, so any replacement parent will not really be able to do the job of a biological parent regardless of whether they are male or female. So I guess from a parenthood perspective that information may not be great news :?


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The Master went on to explain to John how a child is wholly dependent on his parents and the associated home life for all his early concepts of everything intellectual, social, moral, and even spiritual since the family represents to the young child all that he can first know of either human or divine relationships. The child must derive his first impressions of the universe from the mother’s care; he is wholly dependent on the earthly father for his first ideas of the heavenly Father.


Another thing that confuse's people is that the Universal father is not more like a male than a female, the Universal Father is neither male nor female so just because a child learns about the father from a male does not that males are closer to god. A female is just as much god-like as a male :).

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the universal father is the male figure amongst the trinity, the eternal son is the mother and father figure and the infinite spirit is the mother figure. 133:2.2 "The Father in heaven treats the Spirit Mother of the children of the universe as one equal to himself. It is Godlike to share your life and all that relates thereto on equal terms with the mother partner who so fully shares with you that divine experience of reproducing yourselves in the lives of your children. If you can only love your children as God loves you, you will love and cherish your wife as the Father in heaven honors and exalts the Infinite Spirit, the mother of all the spirit children of a vast universe.”

jesus compares a man's wife to the infinite spirit. the universal father is the seventh father to be met towards paradise. 51:6.6 It is intended that mortals who start out from an inhabited world have the experience of recognizing seven fathers:

1. The biologic father—the father in the flesh.
2. The father of the realm—the Planetary Adam.
3. The father of the spheres—the System Sovereign.
4. The Most High Father—the Constellation Father.
5. The universe Father—the Creator Son and supreme ruler of the local creations.
6. The super-Fathers—the Ancients of Days who govern the superuniverse.
7. The spirit or Havona Father—the Universal Father, who dwells on Paradise and bestows his spirit to live and work in the minds of the lowly creatures who inhabit the universe of universes.

15:0.1 AS FAR as the Universal Father is concerned — as a Father — the universes are virtually nonexistent; he deals with personalities; he is the Father of personalities.

the universal father in the male, father role mates with the eternal son in the female, mother role "7:6.7 Between the Original Mother Son and these hosts of Paradise Sons scattered throughout all creation, there is a direct and exclusive channel of communication, a channel whose function is inherent in the quality of spiritual kinship which unites them in bonds of near-absolute spiritual association. This intersonship circuit is entirely different from the universal circuit of spirit gravity, which also centers in the person of the Second Source and Center. All Sons of God who take origin in the persons of the Paradise Deities are in direct and constant communication with the Eternal Mother Son. And such communication is instantaneous; it is independent of time though sometimes conditioned by space," and births a creator son, jesus of nazareth, michael of nebadon. the eternal son in the role of male, father mates with the infinite spirit, the female, mother role and produces a magisterial son. we are a dual universe, the product of a creator son and divine minister or creative daughter or spirit, which is why we have two people in a marriage. the uf and the es birthed the infinite spirit, similarly the creator son and creative daughter birthed gabriel, similarly a man and a woman birth an infant.

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Another thing that confuse's people is that the Universal father is not more like a male than a female, the Universal Father is neither male nor female so just because a child learns about the father from a male does not that males are closer to god. A female is just as much god-like as a male :).


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The Universal Father is no where near being male or female. This notion has led to the notion that women are less capable of father-identification than males and this is not good at all.

The Universal Father is neither male nor female, he is the bestower of every personality and he is whole and complete as a personality that is beyond anything that is human. It is a great blunder to attribute any human quality's to god. The universal father is all of reality he is the source of every personality. The mission of humans threw the thought adjuster is to go threw father-identification and that applie's to males and females, poor and rich.

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(1174.7) 106:9.11 Sooner or later all universe personalities begin to realize that the final quest of eternity is the endless exploration of infinity, the never-ending voyage of discovery into the absoluteness of the First Source and Center. Sooner or later we all become aware that all creature growth is proportional to Father identification. We arrive at the understanding that living the will of God is the eternal passport to the endless possibility of infinity itself. Mortals will sometime realize that success in the quest of the Infinite is directly proportional to the achievement of Fatherlikeness, and that in this universe age the realities of the Father are revealed within the qualities of divinity. And these qualities of divinity are personally appropriated by universe creatures in the experience of living divinely, and to live divinely means actually to live the will of God.

(1175.1) 106:9.12 To material, evolutionary, finite creatures, a life predicated on the living of the Father’s will leads directly to the attainment of spirit supremacy in the personality arena and brings such creatures one step nearer the comprehension of the Father-Infinite. Such a Father life is one predicated on truth, sensitive to beauty, and dominated by goodness. Such a God-knowing person is inwardly illuminated by worship and outwardly devoted to the wholehearted service of the universal brotherhood of all personalities, a service ministry which is filled with mercy and motivated by love, while all these life qualities are unified in the evolving personality on ever-ascending levels of cosmic wisdom, self-realization, God-finding, and Father worship.

That "Father-life" apply's to men and women. :wink: in other words women are equally Father-like as a man. :idea:

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1.3.1.Even though you are “the offspring of God,” you ought not to think that the Father is like yourselves in form and physique because you are said to be created “in his image” — indwelt by Mystery Monitors


This topic fustrates me alot because in every religion women are looked at as spiritual inferior by males. I even see Urantia book reader's give opinion's like "well maybe females should pray more to the Local Mother Spirit and the Eternal Son because both function in motherly roles". All the while they are just as god-like/father-like as a male :-$.

Consider this, on our world you only really act out the role as universal father for a short time in your child's life, before they realize you are not their alpha omega :shock: . As a parent you are like scaffolding to the real mother and father of the universe who are not male nor female. They are complete being's, especially god!
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I know its just human nature though that when they see the word "father" and "mother" they think of a human image. Unfortunately human image's do not work when dealing with the god's :). Also just because the Creator son and the Local mother spirit procreate does not meant that they are male or female either. Infact Jesus is the best representation of god so its likely he is a complete personality. He has an ability to understand both sexe's just like god and relate to all mortal's so I am sure even he is not even a he at all.

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The various authors don't appear to discourage any type of loving relationship. A "Chief of Seraphim" wrote three definitive Papers on the marriage institution from the celestial viewpoint (82-84). In them she puts forth and idealizes the female/male bond:

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84:6.6 Men and women need each other in their morontial and spiritual as well as in their mortal careers. The differences in viewpoint between male and female persist even beyond the first life and throughout the local and superuniverse ascensions. And even in Havona, the pilgrims who were once men and women will still be aiding each other in the Paradise ascent. Never, even in the Corps of the Finality, will the creature metamorphose so far as to obliterate the personality trends that humans call male and female; always will these two basic variations of humankind continue to intrigue, stimulate, encourage, and assist each other; always will they be mutually dependent on co-operation in the solution of perplexing universe problems and in the overcoming of manifold cosmic difficulties.

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All the while they are just as god-like/father-like as a male.


108:1.7 With these facts before them, it is our belief that the Monitors freely volunteer for assignment. Probably more than one Adjuster volunteers; perhaps the supervising personalized orders select from this group of volunteering Adjusters the one best suited to the task of spiritualizing and eternalizing the personality of the mortal candidate. (In the assignment and service of the Adjusters the sex of the creature is of no consideration.)

this is why men and women are equal.

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Infact Jesus is the best representation of god so its likely he is a complete personality. He has an ability to understand both sexe's just like god and relate to all mortal's so I am sure even he is not even a he at all.


20:6.2 On a mortal-bestowal mission a Paradise Son is always born of woman and grows up as a male child of the realm, as Jesus did on Urantia.

tub says always for a reason. and jesus made a corps of women preachers to say their equality.

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84:1.9 Regardless of the antagonisms of these early pairs, notwithstanding the looseness of the association, the chances for survival were greatly improved by these male-female partnerships. A man and a woman, co-operating, even aside from family and offspring, are vastly superior in most ways to either two men or two women. This pairing of the sexes enhanced survival and was the very beginning of human society. The sex division of labor also made for comfort and increased happiness.

at least ub makes one reference to gay relationships.

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The various authors don't appear to discourage any type of loving relationship. A "Chief of Seraphim" wrote three definitive Papers on the marriage institution from the celestial viewpoint (82-84). In them she puts forth and idealizes the female/male bond:

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Being a female personality doesn't make a women less like the father than a male rich. The father is not a male figure in any way shape or form. He is a non-gendered infinite personality. Michael may have had a male body but that doesn't mean he is a male.

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103:2.10 Man tends to identify the urge to be self-serving with his ego — himself. In contrast he is inclined to identify the will to be altruistic with some influence outside himself — God. And indeed is such a judgment right, for all such nonself desires do actually have their origin in the leadings of the indwelling Thought Adjuster, and this Adjuster is a fragment of God. The impulse of the spirit Monitor is realized in human consciousness as the urge to be altruistic, fellow-creature minded. At least this is the early and fundamental experience of the child mind. When the growing child fails of personality unification, the altruistic drive may become so overdeveloped as to work serious injury to the welfare of the self. A misguided conscience can become responsible for much conflict, worry, sorrow, and no end of human unhappiness.

of course Being a female personality doesn't make a women less like the father than a male rich, but this is overly conscientious, overly meticulous; careful; painstaking; particular. tub talks of the father which is an indication of the male. On some planets the male may rule the female, which is interesting, i imagine these men are real short compared to the women. immanuel told michael he would be of the male sex and michael is the representation of the universal father. the father is a male figure in shape and form but he is also female i agree as we understand these characteristics from a human perspective. the uf is all that and more 1:5.2 God is much more than a personality as personality is understood by the human mind; he is even far more than any possible concept of a superpersonality. But it is utterly futile to discuss such incomprehensible concepts of divine personality with the minds of material creatures whose maximum concept of the reality of being consists in the idea and ideal of personality. The material creature’s highest possible concept of the Universal Creator is embraced within the spiritual ideals of the exalted idea of divine personality. Therefore, although you may know that God must be much more than the human conception of personality, you equally well know that the Universal Father cannot possibly be anything less than an eternal, infinite, true, good, and beautiful personality.

and michael as jesus was all dude, just ask george michael, you've gotta have faith.

52:2.7 On some planets the male may rule the female; on others the reverse prevails. 120:3.8 7. While you will live the normal and average social life of the planet, being a normal individual of the male sex, you will probably not enter the marriage relation, 2:0.1 INASMUCH as man’s highest possible concept of God is embraced within the human idea and ideal of a primal and infinite personality, it is permissible, and may prove helpful, to study certain characteristics of the divine nature which constitute the character of Deity. The nature of God can best be understood by the revelation of the Father which Michael of Nebadon unfolded in his manifold teachings and in his superb mortal life in the flesh.

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Being a female personality doesn't make a women less like the father than a male rich. The father is not a male figure in any way shape or form. He is a non-gendered infinite personality. Michael may have had a male body but that doesn't mean he is a male.


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It is thinking like that, which has led to the inequality of women, if I was a female on this forum I would be offended by your comments. You have never been more wrong about any topic in the u.b than you are this one.

The reason they use the father is because the dynamics of the relationship between a child and a father. On a planet of sex creatures children do not initially love their father, but they love their mother. A child's love slowly grows for their father in time out of recognition but mother love is instinctual with all mammals. This is why they use this symbol to describe god, because it is the best human concept available. This is why the term father is more accurate than mother it has nothing to do with male or female. 149.6.6
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Jesus was all man, but his personality was not a human man nor womens personality it was a creator son personality. His personality is about as far from being human as fungus on a tree is. Micheal is not a human being, he lived a life in a male flesh body but his personality was not human. =; I gota have faith that the universe is controlled by a bunch of manly men? You are out to lunch on this one.

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rich would not argue with boomer, but when he left, he said: “You are boomshuka, and you ought to understand these things. I will not contend with you..." i like this line from david and when jesus walked away from the coldness of annas. 1:6.6 The more completely man understands himself and appreciates the personality values of his fellows, the more he will crave to know the Original Personality, and the more earnestly such a God-knowing human will strive to become like the Original Personality. You can argue over opinions about God, but experience with him and in him exists above and beyond all human controversy and mere intellectual logic. The God-knowing man describes his spiritual experiences, not to convince unbelievers, but for the edification and mutual satisfaction of believers.

everyone's experience knowing god is different.

190:1.3 From the tomb David and Joseph went immediately to the home of Elijah Mark, where they held a conference with the ten apostles in the upper chamber. Only John Zebedee was disposed to believe, even faintly, that Jesus had risen from the dead. Peter had believed at first but, when he failed to find the Master, fell into grave doubting. They were all disposed to believe that the Jews had removed the body. David would not argue with them, but when he left, he said: “You are the apostles, and you ought to understand these things. I will not contend with you; nevertheless, I now go back to the home of Nicodemus, where I have appointed with the messengers to assemble this morning, and when they have gathered together, I will send them forth on their last mission, as heralds of the Master’s resurrection. I heard the Master say that, after he should die, he would rise on the third day, and I believe him.” And thus speaking to the dejected and forlorn ambassadors of the kingdom, this self-appointed chief of communication and intelligence took leave of the apostles. On his way from the upper chamber he dropped the bag of Judas, containing all the apostolic funds, in the lap of Matthew Levi.


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So I am guessing you believe the thougth adjuster is a male as well?

When someone reads the u.b and starts to looking at one half of the human race as more god-like than the other half, obviously they have seriously mis-read the book.

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the opposite, tub only uses the term virgin to describe thought adjusters, and that's not an accident knowing we use the term virgin to describe a woman. the ta's are more like women than men and a man's wife is symbolic of a thought adjuster. note On the two-brain worlds, subsequent to the sojourn of a Paradise bestowal Son, virgin Adjusters are seldom assigned to persons who have unquestioned capacity for survival. It is our belief that on such worlds practically all Adjusters indwelling intelligent men and women of survival capacity belong to the advanced or to the supreme type, i didn't realize that which means most people on this planet are working with advanced or supreme adjusters, girls who have had a prior relationship. the real question is how many relationships on average does the average thought adjuster have before she fuses with a human, if it's 10 on average that's a lot of humans who don't survive eternally. i would also compare positive seraphim with male and negative seraphim with female, before you ask.

40:5.13 Like series number one, each member of this group enjoys the ministry of a single Adjuster during lifetime in the flesh. During temporal life these Adjusters do everything for their subjects of temporary indwelling that is done on other worlds where the mortals are of fusion potential. The mortals of this second series are often indwelt by virgin Adjusters, but the higher human types are often in liaison with masterful and experienced Monitors. 107:2.2 Virgin Adjusters, those serving on their initial assignment in the minds of evolutionary candidates for eternal survival. Mystery Monitors are eternally uniform in divine nature. They are also uniform in experiential nature as they first go out from Divinington; subsequent experiential differentiation is the result of actual experience in universe ministry. 109:0.1 THE Thought Adjusters are the children of the universe career, and indeed the virgin Adjusters must gain experience while mortal creatures grow and develop. As the personality of the human child expands for the struggles of evolutionary existence, so does the Adjuster wax great in the rehearsals of the next stage of ascending life. As the child acquires adaptative versatility for his adult activities through the social and play life of early childhood, so does the indwelling Adjuster achieve skill for the next stage of cosmic life by virtue of the preliminary mortal planning and rehearsing of those activities which have to do with the morontia career. Human existence constitutes a period of practice which is effectively utilized by the Adjuster in preparing for the increased responsibilities and the greater opportunities of a future life. But the Adjuster’s efforts, while living within you, are not so much concerned with the affairs of temporal life and planetary existence. Today, the Thought Adjusters are, as it were, rehearsing the realities of the universe career in the evolving minds of human beings. 109:1.1 There must be a comprehensive and elaborate plan for the training and development of virgin Adjusters before they are sent forth from Divinington, but we really do not know very much about it. There undoubtedly also exists an extensive system for retraining Adjusters of indwelling experience before they embark upon new missions of mortal association, but, again, we do not actually know. 109:3.2 On certain primitive worlds (the series one group) the Adjuster indwells the mind of the creature as an experiential training, chiefly for self-culture and progressive development. Virgin Adjusters are usually sent to such worlds during the earlier times when primitive men are arriving in the valley of decision, but when comparatively few will elect to ascend the moral heights beyond the hills of self-mastery and character acquirement to attain the higher levels of emerging spirituality. (Many, however, who fail of Adjuster fusion do survive as Spirit-fused ascenders.) The Adjusters receive valuable training and acquire wonderful experience in transient association with primitive minds, and they are able subsequently to utilize this experience for the benefit of superior beings on other worlds. Nothing of survival value is ever lost in all the wide universe. 109:3.6 On the two-brain worlds, subsequent to the sojourn of a Paradise bestowal Son, virgin Adjusters are seldom assigned to persons who have unquestioned capacity for survival. It is our belief that on such worlds practically all Adjusters indwelling intelligent men and women of survival capacity belong to the advanced or to the supreme type. 109:3.8 But with those beings who are virtually disqualified for survival by disinheritance through the agency of unfit and inferior ancestors, many a virgin Adjuster has served a valuable preliminary experience in contacting evolutionary mind and thus has bec
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So I am guessing you believe the thougth adjuster is a male as well?

When someone reads the u.b and starts to looking at one half of the human race as more god-like than the other half, obviously they have seriously mis-read the book.


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the opposite, tub only uses the term virgin to describe thought adjusters, and that's not an accident knowing we use the term virgin to describe a woman. the ta's are more like women than men and a man's wife is symbolic of a thought adjuster. note On the two-brain worlds, subsequent to the sojourn of a Paradise bestowal Son, virgin Adjusters are seldom assigned to persons who have unquestioned capacity for survival. It is our belief that on such worlds practically all Adjusters indwelling intelligent men and women of survival capacity belong to the advanced or to the supreme type,i didn't realize that which means most people on this planet are working with advanced or supreme adjusters, girls who have had a prior relationship. the real question is how many relationships on average does the average thought adjuster have before she fuses with a human, if it's 10 on average that's a lot of humans who don't survive eternally. i would also compare positive seraphim with male and negative seraphim with female, before you ask.


Wait what :shock: a virgin can be a man or women who has never had sexual intercourse. People use the word virgin to describe doing something for the first time. ie. I am a virgin sky diver. So if a man's wife is symbolic of a thought adjuster, than by your logic a women's husband must be symbolic of the universal father. :roll:

Why would God bestow both female and male personality's and he himself only be a male type personality? If positive and negative represent male and female, than wouldn't it follow that an infinite personality who created both male and female personality like god in the very least be both positive and negative and much much more?


Not all universe beings are male and female, yes angel's are positive and negative but there are created beings with personality's who are not negative and positive.

194.1) 16:8.1 The Universal Father bestows personality upon numerous orders of beings as they function on diverse levels of universe actuality. Urantia human beings are endowed with personality of the finite-mortal type, functioning on the level of the ascending sons of God.

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