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There is no way around the FACT that the information we get from the electronic mass media 24/7 sparks lively PRIVATE discussions.

When in the loving bosom of family and friends, discussions are more direct and honest and the rules for censorship are reduced to the simple one of no physical violence being allowed. Hopefully, I’m not running with an unusual and dangerous crowd simply because violence containment is the only group censorship we apply face to face and mano et mano.

After attending a very high-faluting, charity and social consciousness fund raiser someone, on their cell phone, recorded a video clip of George Bush, Sr. slapping the butt of a famous actress in the parking lot after he had what seemed to be a delightful one-on-one conversation with her since they were both saying goodbye to each other with a smile and a laugh. That clip sparked an unexpected debate!

One woman, in between a bite of chips and salsa, noted that had the actress delivered a classic, non-damaging, feminine slap to Bush, Sr. in a way that other politically correct times and other European cultures would have supported as a woman’s right to defend her dignity in such a manner (even old Hollywood movies show the occasional slap from a lady who wanted it known to the man that he was out of line) that the actress would have been thrown to the ground by at least a dozen of Bush Sr.’s security personnel which includes the tax-payer-kept Secret Service that ex-Presidents all enjoy as a privilege.

So basically, since politics is reduced to two major groups through the support of data collected by “social scientists” – we got down to collecting our own group data.

None of the men want an ex-President to have a PROTECTED right to slap an unescorted woman’s butt. None of the women wanted their butts slapped by Bush Sr., either. The ladies felt there were other more appropriate SYMBOLIC gestures a man could utilize to show respect towards a woman’s grace and charm. Both men and women mentioned their parent’s/grandparent’s generations charming kiss of the hand IF the woman chose to even extend her hand to a man in greeting….mostly it was hands-off.

Should we not always reach for a universally charming and universally understood kiss of an extended feminine hand to a man as the POLITICALLY CORRECT gesture when attempting to amalgamate so many diverse cultures at influential and important world charity functions?

However, we DID acknowledge that there were probably large groups of men in the USA among the 45 year old and younger “generation gap” crowd who might actually keep a video tape and use it as bragging rights to their buddies – “hey look, my lady got a butt slap from the President…” and there are probably also large groups of women who like having their butt slapped as a gesture of approval from Secret-Security-guarded rich and powerful men.

I must admit to this little bit of sharing on Truthbook.com of personal “beliefs” and SYMBOLIC faith based actions, is a bit of a mischief because I have supported the possible creation of yet another diametrically-opposed-to-each-other classification.

Still, SYMOLIC gestures do run deeper than appearances suggest when it comes to religious, political, and social “ceremony”, don’t they? We have a butt-slapping vs. hand-kissing schism developing in the country and who’s SYMBOLIC gestures are going to continue to enjoy tax-payer protection into the future and why?

Should I start a silly poll? Something like – “do you prefer a national custom of butt-slapping or hand-kissing?

Any video tape out there of Rudy Giuliani slapping butts? He is Italian after all…or did he rise above his stereotypical Italian roots (where butt-PINCHING is still a national past time in Italy) to become MORE than symbolic…? Can we all rise to universal occasions because of our “Christian” beliefs? Does “Christianity” still move us to progress?


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Any video tape out there of Rudy Giuliani slapping butts?


...couldn't find any. But(t) perhaps this will do, a video of Guiliani in drag being nuzzled by and subsequently slapping Donald Trump: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8

Obviously slapping is still Guiliani's preference.

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Can we all rise to universal occasions because of our “Christian” beliefs? Does “Christianity” still move us to progress?[/quote]

I don't know about Christianity, but our Urantian beliefs can certainly inspire us to rise to any occasion and make it better...

I vote for hand-kissing...lovely custom, sadly missing in this country.

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Old news - that schtick was at a benefit dinner years ago...obviously, he has enough self-confidence to ham it up...at the time it was hilarious...now, could it cost him a run for public office....?

Hi MaryJo,

I've seen a lot of perfidy in which "Urantia beliefs" are being promulgated. I must have read a different book. Interesting how few people have actually read the book...

Lots of lovely social customs have been censored in our country under the banner of "discrimination" and "political correctness". I bet you can think of one - everyone can...

Every day you learn something new - banks are eager to hire very successful identity theft people AND people who got FEMA funds slated for New Orleans people...the banks want to learn those techno math tricks the thieves employed for themselves...man, the MIC wants every egg-laying chicken they can find these days on their march to Iran!

But the icing on the insanity cake today was FOX Noise Network referring to the date ANSmith died as "one of the most tragic days in US history"...

How was your close encounter with mass media noise today


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Fetish, nice thread.... :-s

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Should I start a silly poll? Something like – “do you prefer a national custom of butt-slapping or hand-kissing?


We will accept the "butt slapping" custom, but only if we can slap your faces in return ... or knee you in the groin.... is that agreed..?



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Dear Fetish,

I said our beliefs "can" inspire us to the good, not that they always do that for everyone. Perfidy is not remarkable, unfortunately...

These days I try to stay away from news programs - a recent decision - just because it IS so mind-numbing. I just got tired of it. And so much fear thrown around. I like the newspaper, where I can choose what I want to read about ...but mostly I like the paper for the crossword puzzle! "The news" gives me a headache. So, I didn't really hear much of that noise today. But I did hear an interview on the radio with the new president of Harvard U - a woman who is just my age. That was nice to hear.

Do you ever listen to Air America or NPR?

But that's hilarious - Poor Anna Nicole...she was certainly a tragic figure, but "the most tragic day...? I can think of a lot of days that would be way ahead of Anna Nicole's day of death in the way of tragic...

Too much

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Fetish, nice thread.... :-s

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Should I start a silly poll? Something like – “do you prefer a national custom of butt-slapping or hand-kissing?


We will accept the "butt slapping" custom, but only if we can slap your faces in return ... or knee you in the groin.... is that agreed..?



Love Sarah xx



Whoa whoa whoa there Tasneem...you being a Brit - this is NOT about YOU at all....notice the name of the thread "SYMBOLIC"....I'm afraid you might not know enough about "US" USA natives to understand between the lines here....so let it go....

You've got a Queen in charge of England, and a praise good one at that...hence Bush Sr. would have been on the ground by Her Majesty's Secret Service had he tried to slap HER butt.

We do not have a monarchy in the USA - and never will. We had our revolutionary war with them - you might have heard about it - 1776-ish?

Seems to me the Arab countries have the energy to throw foreigners out of their lands...now don't they...?

I'm one of those that never wanted to be there in the first place...


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Whoa whoa whoa there Tasneem...you being a Brit - this is NOT about YOU at all....notice the name of the thread "SYMBOLIC"....I'm afraid you might not know enough about "US" USA natives to understand between the lines here....so let it go....


That was called a joke above, :roll: Dont you have any sense of humour in the States...? I know alot more about your modern culture than you do about ours... I think though you Americans know more about British history than we do, we are not patriotic atall...

Oh well .... :( i thought it was funny...suppose i best not attempt another joke here again... :?

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Seems to me the Arab countries have the energy to throw foreigners out of their lands...now don't they...?

I'm one of those that never wanted to be there in the first place...



It seems the theme on this forum lately has diverted away from spiritual matters and focused on attacking and spreading hatred against muslims ( in many of the threads), i am surprised that many Urantia book readers here have a very limited understanding of the world around them.... I expected more from you all.... maybe this is not the right place for me to carry on posting...



Love Sarah xx


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sister Sarah ~

Your posts have been helpful to me in my attempt to understand muslims (and others unlike myself). I feel it is important for each of us to understand where the other is coming from, so to speak. We simply must learn to be accepting, and even embrace all of our brothers and sisters. If we are unable to do so here, how can we possibly do it out there? Please continue to share with us. There is value in what you have to offer. And i, for one appreciate your input.

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Thankyou very much Julie for those kind and thoughtful words..... O:)

Take care

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Oh well .... :( i thought it was funny...suppose i best not attempt another joke here again... :?

It seems the theme on this forum lately has diverted away from spiritual matters and focused on attacking and spreading hatred against muslims ( in many of the threads), i am surprised that many Urantia book readers here have a very limited understanding of the world around them.... I expected more from you all.... maybe this is not the right place for me to carry on posting...

Love Sarah xx


Please provide the written example in my posts that makes you "feel" that I was spreading "hatred against muslims"....? I don't "hate" any individual...I DO hate some of the things that they do in the name of "god"....big difference in hating the sin but not the sinner....it's a "christian" thing....

But I DID find this statement of yours to be humorous - "i am surprised that many Urantia book readers here have a very limited understanding of the world around them"....

Perfect. Keep on thinking that...


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But I DID find this statement of yours to be humorous - "i am surprised that many Urantia book readers here have a very limited understanding of the world around them"....

Perfect. Keep on thinking that...


Im funny arent i.... :|

Alright Fetish.... :roll: maybe i exaggerated a little..or a lot.. I apologise ... for that statement.... I give up, im not the type to debate or dispute, so i think i will leave you all to it.....

Behave yourself... O:)


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Hello All,

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The golden rule should be our standard. Please keep this in mind when posting.

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