susan wrote:
so much to learn from/with one another
to be w/ "like minded" ones, imho, is meant to mean those who have been graced and gifted w/ the FER. if so, isn't it ever so evident that even we like minded brethren are so very different so as to foster abundant opportunities to learn and grow, even within our chosen circles? what, then, is truthbook? why do we come here where it is closely monitored (pun intended) as to who says what, when ? what could possibly be "wrong" with UB readers coming together to worship/fellowship/serve in a place that is more or less deemed UB focused and inspired?
smm
I know people who are "like-minded" with personal spiritual experiences that not only "line up" with the UB, but they had those experiences long before they ever saw the UB.
To say that "like-mindedness" means those who have been "graced and gifted w/the FER" is to set yourself above and apart from those who have experienced Truth/God/Salvation/Spirit/Joy/Love/ without the FER as if you are the only one enlightened and the only way to be enlightened is through the UB "revelation".
alwilliams767 said:
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But consider, if you will, the track record of all past revelations… even the revelation of the living god, given to humanity by the Son of Man:
Each of these revelations radically lifted certain segments of human society… gave to its lucky recipients a new and higher spirituality… and each of these revelations in turn sank to the evolutionary level where it could be assimilated by the rest of humanity.
Spiritually, man is much further along or else the FER would not have been introduced. But the revelators were, almost desperately, trying to make us understand that we do not have to sink to that "inevitable" level. They were trying to get us to transcend that... and many have... many who have no knowledge of the UB at all!!!
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KP, I applaud your keen insight. Your ability to realize what a travesty the formulization of the UB into a religion for the masses will be. However, I say that for this revelation to succeed, this travesty is not only inevitable, it is desirable, and even mandatory.
The revelation of God as found in the UB is not dependent upon the success or failure of disseminating the Book or any book... It must come about through actually living the Truth... being the Truth. Otherwise, you can read, study and spread the UB and still not see any change in this planet.
J. Barry wrote:
[1] Wouldn't it be great if there was a place where persons could learn what that statement meant and how best to live it, thus going out into the world and spreading the love that only comes from the Father.
[2] The teaching of El Elyon where not individual persons studying on there own, they were all pulled to gather by Mel... and taught what and how, and filled with the inspiration to do what has never been done before. Have you read how they went out in to the world and influence every know faith on this planet. that has to be a great example of how to get things started.
[3] I for one am bombarded by so many negative in this life, that just to have a sanctuary to go to would be a soul settling thing all on it own.
[4] I would never support a new church of dogmas and tradition ..so unyielding as the ones we now have all over this planet. but i wholeheartedly support a spirit lead and open door love for life, want to teach and never stop growing place of spiritual feeding.
First of all, I would like to see you be a little more respectful of Machiventa Melchizedek and not be so familiar by calling him "Mel."
Next: [1] Yes, it is called LIFE - everyday life and personal communion with God.
[2] They did it through actually LIVING, NOT with or by a book!!!
[3] You have a sanctuary within you... go there!! Without going into your inner sanctuary and being alone with God, experiencing Him inside of your temple, how do you ever expect to bring to a fellowship or gathering anything of meaning and value that can only be gotten by that intimate, personal relationship with the Father?
[4] I agree, except that, unfortunately there would be those who would want to turn a "a spirit lead and open door love for life, want to teach and never stop growing place of spiritual feeding", into a "whose in charge, open door for those who love themselves more than life, and a never stop crystalizing place of 'we have it and you don't' attitude with intellectual feeding frenzies and lack of true sonship and fellowship among brethren."
I would suggest, strongly, that you put more attention on your personal, spiritual experience which will inevitably (there's that word) bring about all the fellowship and "like-minded" and brotherly love you can stand. It is by personal experience in knowing God that you can truly experience the brotherhood of man... with out it you are only a humanist and that is not lasting.