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Sat Jun 11, 2005 12:28 am +0000

I came OUT of a Churchey-Christian background, and into varied religious ideologies ... some pretty strange - mos, ultimately good-for-growth.

Like I said elsewhere, I was four when I questioned the whole Bloody Cross thing ... and as I grew more \"mature\" (ha ha) I grew further and further away from any sense of being Christian. I just plain didn't like that (to my mind) bloodthirsty God, and couldn't sort the whole Atonement scenerio from the Jesus who spent more time living and teaching and healing, than suffering and dying \"for my sins.\"

I had the Urantia Book on the shelf like a lot of hippish \"seekers\" - and it mostly sat there for long periods between my attempts to read. Starting at the beginning each time, I would go into Johnny Mneumonic overwhelm over the thick intensity of the Forward.

Butcha see ... I was avoidin' all that whole (part 4) \"Jesus stuff.\"

One day I was reading those first 50 famous pages of Clyde Bedell's Concordex (3rd edition) and hit my head on one phrase: \"don't be afraid of the religion of Jesus.\"

I 'd read it before, but my brain hadn't quite wrapped around the kind of unusual wording: \"religion OF Jesus\" until that one moment of pure clarity. He's not talking about the kind of Christianity I just can't \"get into\" ... he's talking about JESUS' religion. (I'd been stuck over that religion ABOUT Jesus for all those years!)

So, being a slightly aged (at that time) hippy dude, I looked up the word \"sin.\" You gotta understand, I'd done a LOT of stuff that I knew I'd be burning in hell for all of eternity over - if it was up to that blood-thirsty God I'd encountered when I was four.

And here's the listing in the Concordex that I chose to read:

P.41 - ß6 God loves the sinner and hates the sin: such a statement is true philosophically, but God is a transcendent personality, and persons can only love and hate other persons. Sin is not a person. God loves the sinner because he is a personality reality (potentially eternal), while towards sin God strikes no personal attitude, for sin is not a spiritual reality; it is not personal; therefore does only the justice of God take cognizance of its existence. The love of God saves the sinner; the law of God destroys the sin. This attitude of the divine nature would apparently change if the sinner finally identified himself wholly with sin just as the same mortal mind may also fully identify itself with the indwelling spirit Adjuster. Such a sin-identified mortal would then become wholly unspiritual in nature (and therefore personally unreal) and would experience eventual extinction of being. Unreality, even incompleteness of creature nature, cannot exist forever in a progressingly real and increasingly spiritual universe.

It took no time - none whatsoever, except the time to read that - for my entire world to stop. DEAD STOP.

There it was - everything I knew I was searching for, but couldn't even form into a question.

Right there was everything I ever wanted/needed to know about God. Everything I ever wanted/needed to know about me. About us - Him and me together.

From that moment on, I've not been afraid or ashamed to be:
1) A Christian
2) One of those Urantia Book guys.

Admittedly, the book ended-up back on the shelf for longer than was really sane, due to my exhuberant go-getting of myself directly into a Group that was doing a bit of \"adding\" to the book.

But I'd come, over and over and over again, back to the book, and over time - bit-by-bit (more \"bit\" than \"by\") slowly read, savored, and relished the entire last 1/3rd of the book. The telling of the life and religion OF Jesus.

And I've become so in love with the Jesus and His religion ... that when I finally (actually pretty recently, now) tried to read that tricky Forward again ... it flowed like milk from a pitcher into a cup. And it still flows - page-after-page.

And my cup runneth over. Every single day.

So that's my \"Spiritual Story\" - an' I'm stickin' to it!


Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:00 am +0000

Great Story.

I always like to hear how God \"knocks\" us over the head to finally "get" it.

And the way most of us have come across the UB after so many years of study is always a remarkable study as well.

The greatest part for me, in the UB, was the papers on the 'Personality of God" etc... can't say all the titles, don't have it here in front of me.

I would say though, within it, you find alot of the same as with Jesus. For Jesus is teaching how to become more like God. That is our Goal right?

I spent quite a few monthes study on God himself, because in the church all we usually hear about is Jesus Christ. And that is not what Jesus preached.
So I took the time to really get to know "God, my father", and it has been the most wonderful experience in my life.

And that is the neat thing about the UB. You get what you need when you need it.

I have since moved on to the teachings of Christ and have been going through "setting the record straight", and it has been wonderful learning who he is again, and building a new stronger relationship with him as well.

Well, I could go on and on, but the Urantia Book is wonderful to read. No matter where you start, you always learn something new, or understand better.

Many people ask how it is from God, but you can just feel it wash your soul and mind clean as you read it.

But i enjoyed your story MonDuRa.

I can remember being about 7 looking out the window praying the Lord would return so i could be sure of going to heaven. The whole Rapture\" story had me in fear for many years. I can actually remember losing my mother once ( in a store ) and i had alread been fed that story so much, that i thought the rapture had come and i had been left behind.

You know,. it's not the praise and worship within the church -- it's the fear they teach that keeps me out.
I do miss sometimes taking part in the fellowship.

But i'm going on again about another subject.

But yes, we are Christians. Just like our Brother Christ. We are sons and daughters of the Most High.

And it's a wonderful feeling when you finally understand just how much he loves us and can let go of all those fears.

Much Love
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