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seeing my father in heaven

Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:29 pm +0000

I have something to share. I studied psyciic ability for a period of time in early 90s. One summer day I focused on the spot in my head that enabled clairvoyance. I put on some light. Music, closed my eyes and concentrated. I started seeing basic shapes and other blurry images. It started to intensify. Over the next 3 hours I had a god moment, not to mention a evil moment as well. A eye like shutter appeared and I had. Energy streaming through. Me that affected the electric in my house. I saw many lifeforms, planets, scenes of. War and peace, finally towards the end of my vision, a dark angel walked over into my focused mind, the angel was a beautiful creature despite the dark and fallen part. Felling. Threatened I. Pointed all the somehow divine energy at the creature. The thing cringed and stuttered, but came. Back at me. I did the same thing again, it cringed. And. Walked backwards shaking. Its head in a "you haven't seen the last of me" look. Now 16 years later I stiill am under some kind of spiritual attack. I have had hundreds of out of body experiences. Fights with demons, visions, and more. Visions, alien abduction experiences, I also have heard hundreds of spirit voices just to mention a few. Remote viewing, preminitions, I found the book a few months after the first vision. It jumped out at me in a store in new hope pa. Now I have a wife with child, and I still fight this mess. It. Is hard to live in this. World all alone for another. God knows how long we will be seperated from the circuits.. I hope I can make new friends here, and one more thing, as my father in heaven as my witness, this all true. And I have only. Shared a small part. Pauleeb. Life and light to you all.

Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:52 am +0000

Hi Paul, and welcome.... You may be posting on the wrong forum, this place is for discussing the Urantia book, but i hear that you have one, that is a start...

Hope that you sort out all your problems... take care...

Love Sarah

when the ub found me

Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:20 pm +0000

Sarah, thank you for the reply. The thing is all of those spiritual things that I went through led me to the UB. We all have a story to tell I suppose. Is it so cut and. Dry? That I had spiritual happenings before I read the UB? So they aren't interconnected? Everything came to a boil on finding the ub. I would like to make new friends here, thanks. For the reply my sister.

Life and light, pauleeb

Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:30 pm +0000

Hey Paul How are you doing? Welcome to Truthbook. God bless you my friend. I hope you find what you need to bring you a sence on contentment within yourself and your spirit.

Have you found anything in TUB (The Urantia Book) that has given you any insight to your experiences? Or anything that seems relative to them?

It's good to see you here. It does seem like a lot of stuff to have to put up with.

Our focus here is more on the spiritual stuff in terms of spiritual growth from searching for deeper understandings of the texts.

There are other sites with TUB readers that do entertain newer precieve d celetial communications and they focus on and encourge them. Here we search for our growth and comfort from our shared understandings of the existing text combined with our personal spiritual experiences.

P.2089 - §0 ...Jesus never prayed as a religious duty. To him prayer was a sincere expression of spiritual attitude, a declaration of soul loyalty, a recital of personal devotion, an expression of thanksgiving, an avoidance of emotional tension, a prevention of conflict, an exaltation of intellection, an ennoblement of desire, a vindication of moral decision, an enrichment of thought, an invigoration of higher inclinations, a consecration of impulse, a clarification of viewpoint, a declaration of faith, a transcendental surrender of will, a sublime assertion of confidence, a revelation of courage, the proclamation of discovery, a confession of supreme devotion, the validation of consecration, a technique for the adjustment of difficulties, and the mighty mobilization of the combined soul powers to withstand all human tendencies toward selfishness, evil, and sin. He lived just such a life of prayerful consecration to the doing of his Father's will and ended his life triumphantly with just such a prayer.

The secret of his unparalleled religious life was this consciousness of the presence of God; and he attained it by intelligent prayer and sincere worship--unbroken communion with God--and not by leadings, voices, visions, or extraordinary religious practices.

Bless you my brother Pauleeb! May God be your comfort and the Holy Spirit your guide. :smile:

Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:54 am +0000

Sarah, thank you for the reply. The thing is all of those spiritual things that I went through led me to the UB. We all have a story to tell I suppose.


Yes Paul, O:) I got a story too suppose we all have, i was led to the Urantia book through the Quran, 11-numerology, and finally, a good friend...

Take care, hope you enjoy the book...!


Love Sarah

joe and sarah

Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:31 am +0000

Thank you joe and sarah for a nice welcome here. Its funny, so many worlds, so many people and our father in heaven has time for every one of us. What a grand journey we are all on. Scary times, beautiful times, time to be with all of we brothers and sisters. We all in our lives have moments that change us forever, god knows, the ub can lead, but ultimutley we weill be where dad wants us to be. Thanks new friends
Pauleeb

Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:58 am +0000

Hello pauleeb,

Glad you've dropped in and recounted your story. You termed it a "spiritual thing" -- while it was and continues to be a strong personal experience calling it a "spiritual" anything may be a misnomer. Mind is a powerful tool but subject to direction; you decide where you want your mind focused, not the other way around. At one time you decided to put it to a test that you're still finding unsettling -- that's one of the reasons The Urantia Book cautions against focusing on the psychic. You can banish any such torment from your mind by focusing on Jesus, on "Fear not!", on assuming the mind of Jesus, and by developing your rational thought processes instead of dabbling in the little understood fringe areas of mind. The Urantia Book is a reality check -- it won't lead you into wayward metaphysical paths but will instead help you become grounded in reality. Use Jesus as your guide -- there's not a better reality check available.

Best wishes,
Larry Watkins

Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:53 am +0000

Hey Pauleeb

...a dark angel walked over into my focused mind, the angel was a beautiful creature despite the dark and fallen part. Felling. Threatened I. Pointed all the somehow divine energy at the creature. The thing cringed and stuttered, but came. Back at me. I did the same thing again, it cringed. And. Walked backwards shaking. Its head in a "you haven't seen the last of me" look. Now 16 years later I stiill am under some kind of spiritual attack. I have had hundreds of out of body experiences. Fights with demons, visions, and more. Visions, alien abduction experiences, I also have heard hundreds of spirit voices just to mention a few.


Just a small added bit of UB insight:

53:8.6 The last act of Michael before leaving Urantia was to offer mercy to Caligastia and Daligastia, but they spurned his tender proffer. Caligastia, your apostate Planetary Prince, is still free on Urantia to prosecute his nefarious designs, but he has absolutely no power to enter the minds of men, neither can he draw near to their souls to tempt or corrupt them unless they really desire to be cursed with his wicked presence.


My suggestion is that you stop focusing on these things and begin focusing on Jesus and the lighter things of life rather than the darkness... There is much light to be found within the UB and by conciously focusing your desires on your Father.

Stay focused, my friend and soon these dark nights will be over...

KP

Re: seeing my father in heaven

Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:50 am +0000

pauleeb wrote:I have something to share.

Hi, Paul,
seeing/hearing things depends on how transcendentic our mind is at the moment, be guided by the Father with TA, trust in him/folow and the distortion which is coming from subconsciousnes will lessen. With time, I hope you learn what is unity with TA.

Honesty leads to truth.
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