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What of mortal wisdom acquirement by superconcsious connection to revelation and cosmic mind? Is that dependent on adjutant ministry?


Soul wisdom is the purview of the Spirit of Truth. He is the soul’s super-philosopher, the revealer of superphilosphy. But the meanings gleaned from cooperation with this Spirit must be acted out by the personality whilst utilizing the material mind. Therefore the adjutants, particularly the sixth and seventh, continue to play a vital role. The spirit of wisdom is involved in meditative, reflective, experiential thinking. Through its overlapping ministry it enables the material mind to act out the “wisdom of spirit realities” the personality has discovered in the soul.

(1108.1) 101.3.2  Faith-insight, or spiritual intuition, is the endowment of the cosmic mind in association with the Thought Adjuster, which is the Father’s gift to man. Spiritual reason, soul intelligence, is the endowment of the Holy Spirit, the Creative Spirit’s gift to man. Spiritual philosophy, the wisdom of spirit realities, is the endowment of the Spirit of Truth, the combined gift of the bestowal Sons to the children of men. And the co-ordination and interassociation of these spirit endowments constitute man a spirit personality in potential destiny.

(1136.1) 103:6.6 Always must man’s inner spirit depend for its expression and self-realization upon the mechanism and technique of the mind. Likewise must man’s outer experience of material reality be predicated on the mind consciousness of the experiencing personality. Therefore are the spiritual and the material, the inner and the outer, human experiences always correlated with the mind function and conditioned, as to their conscious realization, by the mind activity. Man experiences matter in his mind; he experiences spiritual reality in the soul but becomes conscious of this experience in his mind. The intellect is the harmonizer and the ever-present conditioner and qualifier of the sum total of mortal experience. Both energy-things and spirit values are colored by their interpretation through the mind media of consciousness.


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Are not the 7 Circles of Progress a measure of spiritualization?


I think they are a measure of mind spiritualization and the personality realization. The spiritualized mind requires that the free will of the personality act upon those spiritualized thoughts, and that's what makes the personality more real.

(1207.2) 110:4.2 The Thought Adjuster is engaged in a constant effort so to spiritualize your mind as to evolve your morontia soul; but you yourself are mostly unconscious of this inner ministry. You are quite incapable of distinguishing the product of your own material intellect from that of the conjoint activities of your soul and the Adjuster.

(1223.5) 111:7.3 Why not allow the Adjuster to spiritualize your thinking, even though your feet must tread the material paths of earthly endeavor?

(1210.5) 110:6.10 3. Personality reality. The degree of selfhood reality is directly determined by circle conquest. Persons become more real as they ascend from the seventh to the first level of mortal existence.

(1209.1) 110:6.1 The sum total of personality realization on a material world is contained within the successive conquest of the seven psychic circles of mortal potentiality. Entrance upon the seventh circle marks the beginning of true human personality function. Completion of the first circle denotes the relative maturity of the mortal being. Though the traversal of the seven circles of cosmic growth does not equal fusion with the Adjuster, the mastery of these circles marks the attainment of those steps which are preliminary to Adjuster fusion.


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Are not the 7 Circles of Progress a measure of spiritualization?


I think they are a measure of mind spiritualization and the personality realization. The spiritualized mind requires that the free will of the personality act upon those spiritualized thoughts, and that's what makes the personality more real.


I imagine that "personality realization" comprises what could be called self-discovery, self-exploration and self-projection along with experiential discovery of the similar meanings and possibilities inherent in other personalities. And becoming spiritualized is only an entrance. The discovery of what to do, what to see, what to think, what to create and what to portray in the spirit is a great adventure that is probably partly covered in the 7 Circles of Progress if the person has the potential to realize such things in the mortal life.

A year or so ago there was a poster here who claimed that humans cannot truly be creative. I believe in that he totally lacked comprehension of the meaning and practical realization of the 7 Circles of Progress.


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I think personality realization occurs as a result of doing the Father's will. Isn't that the way Jesus progressed through all seven cosmic circles?


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"No personality eventuates" - Bradley does this apply even to the Supreme Being? Personality preexists the eventuational reality, even that which could only exist in the auspices of time? I am sorry but I just do not understand how, for instance, the Melchizedeks each have distinct personalities whereas their labours are shared in common. How angels who are in the image of the Infinite Spirit, would assist the doing of the First Source and Center, but each and every single one are different? They all appear to be the same, but how could you know one distinctly, as a guardian, or a coworker, or a sibling? Are you saying that you have enough affirmational experience to claim these truths or are you merely dictating the postulates and theories of the Authors of the Urantia Papers? Or maybe man is symbol of the first source and center to the angels and they truly cling to the tree of life as (the Power Circulation of the grand universe, the blood of Paradise) birds to cling to branches in order to to rear forth offspring. "For human indiviudals are the ultimate life eventuational pattern of Urantia."

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"No personality eventuates" - Bradley does this apply even to the Supreme Being? Personality preexists the eventuational reality, even that which could only exist in the auspices of time? I am sorry but I just do not understand how, for instance, the Melchizedeks each have distinct personalities whereas their labours are shared in common. How angels who are in the image of the Infinite Spirit, would assist the doing of the First Source and Center, but each and every single one are different? They all appear to be the same, but how could you know one distinctly, as a guardian, or a coworker, or a sibling? Are you saying that you have enough affirmational experience to claim these truths or are you merely dictating the postulates and theories of the Authors of the Urantia Papers? Or maybe man is symbol of the first source and center to the angels and they truly cling to the tree of life as (the Power Circulation of the grand universe, the blood of Paradise) birds to cling to branches in order to to rear forth offspring. "For human indiviudals are the ultimate life eventuational pattern of Urantia."


I do hope for better understanding of the teachings by us all Stephen. Your lack of understanding about the nature of personality will require you taking time to read and study. But no, personality is not eventuated. And we are clearly told, every being has the gifts of personality, mind, and free will and that personality is changeless and individualized and personalized. I am claiming that this is what the UB says and claiming nothing experiential. And yes, this fact and truth applies to the Supreme and the Melchizedeks and the angels. I have no idea why you might think any being anywhere is not an individual person blessed by mind, personality, and free will and whose experience and expressions of that experience are less than unique.

This is such a basic teaching and the source of great delight and the aggregation and integration of all experience, truth, beauty, and goodness by the Supreme who relishes this individuation and unique experience in time and space, the perfecting of all God's children in time who descend and ascend in loving service to one another.

So now you are claiming that the contents of the UB are merely the written "postulates and theories" of the authors of the Papers? Hmmmm…. So then, as I have previously pointed out and despite your many claims and protestations to the contrary, you do NOT believe the UB, its authors, or its contents. As I suspected and pointed out, based on your endless contradictions to the Papers.

That's alright Stephen. As I have repeated many times, it is not important to me that you believe the contents and claims of the Papers. It is only important that you acknowledge your disbelief and lack of agreement in your embrace and preference for your own beliefs and theories!! Clarity and transparency are so helpful.

There is no "blood of Paradise" Stephen and the angels have no need of the Tree of Life....ever. Your query as to whether man represent the gods is so very humanistic and typical of those who make god in their own image. An unfortunate and primitive human trait and tradition.

What is the source of: "For human indiviudals are the ultimate life eventuational pattern of Urantia." For it is certainly NOT the Urantia Book. Please do not misquote or misrepresent the UB Stephen.

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(9.1) 0:5.11 Personality. The personality of mortal man is neither body, mind, nor spirit; neither is it the soul. Personality is the one changeless reality in an otherwise ever-changing creature experience; and it unifies all other associated factors of individuality. The personality is the unique bestowal which the Universal Father makes upon the living and associated energies of matter, mind, and spirit, and which survives with the survival of the morontial soul.

(13.3) 0:9.5 God the Supreme and God the Ultimate, now evolving in the experiential universes, are not existential — not past eternals, only future eternals, time-space-conditioned and transcendental-conditioned eternals. They are Deities of supreme, ultimate, and possibly supreme-ultimate endowments, but they have experienced historic universe origins. They will never have an end, but they do have personality beginnings. They are indeed actualizations of eternal and infinite Deity potentials, but they themselves are neither unqualifiedly eternal nor infinite.

5:6.3 [Part I]
Personality is potential in all creatures who possess a mind endowment ranging from the minimum of self-consciousness to the maximum of God-consciousness. But mind endowment alone is not personality, neither is spirit nor physical energy. Personality is that quality and value in cosmic reality which is exclusively bestowed by God the Father upon these living systems of the associated and co-ordinated energies of matter, mind, and spirit. Neither is personality a progressive achievement. Personality may be material or spiritual, but there either is personality or there is no personality. The other-than-personal never attains the level of the personal except by the direct act of the Paradise Father.


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"No personality eventuates" - Bradley does this apply even to the Supreme Being? Personality preexists the eventuational reality, even that which could only exist in the auspices of time?


The Supreme Being's personality is derived from the Trinity. Technically the Trinity did not eventuate but it is responsible for eventuating. The Supreme himself is actualizing rather than eventuating, and that is because he is an experiential, evolving Deity. God the Ultimate is eventuating.

(12.1) 0:8.10 The grand universe is the threefold Deity domain of the Trinity of Supremacy, God the Sevenfold, and the Supreme Being. God the Supreme is potential in the Paradise Trinity, from whom he derives his personality and spirit attributes; but he is now actualizing in the Creator Sons, Ancients of Days, and the Master Spirits, from whom he derives his power as Almighty to the superuniverses of time and space. This power manifestation of the immediate God of evolutionary creatures actually time-space evolves concomitantly with them. The Almighty Supreme, evolving on the value-level of nonpersonal activities, and the spirit person of God the Supreme are one reality — the Supreme Being.

(4.9) 0:2.15 4. God the Supreme — the actualizing or evolving God of time and space.

(4.11) 0:2.17 6. God the Ultimate — the eventuating God of supertime and transcended space. The second experiential level of unifying Deity manifestation. God the Ultimate implies the attained realization of the synthesized absonite-superpersonal, time-space-transcended, and eventuated-experiential values, co-ordinated on final creative levels of Deity reality.


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