Urantia Book Forum

Urantia Book Discussion Board : Study Group
It is currently Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:21 am +0000

All times are UTC - 7 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 163 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 7, 8, 9, 10, 11
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Evolution
PostPosted:  
Offline

Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:11 pm +0000
Posts: 932
fanofVan wrote:
What of mortal wisdom acquirement by superconcsious connection to revelation and cosmic mind? Is that dependent on adjutant ministry?


Soul wisdom is the purview of the Spirit of Truth. He is the soul’s super-philosopher, the revealer of superphilosphy. But the meanings gleaned from cooperation with this Spirit must be acted out by the personality whilst utilizing the material mind. Therefore the adjutants, particularly the sixth and seventh, continue to play a vital role. The spirit of wisdom is involved in meditative, reflective, experiential thinking. Through its overlapping ministry it enables the material mind to act out the “wisdom of spirit realities” the personality has discovered in the soul.

(1108.1) 101.3.2  Faith-insight, or spiritual intuition, is the endowment of the cosmic mind in association with the Thought Adjuster, which is the Father’s gift to man. Spiritual reason, soul intelligence, is the endowment of the Holy Spirit, the Creative Spirit’s gift to man. Spiritual philosophy, the wisdom of spirit realities, is the endowment of the Spirit of Truth, the combined gift of the bestowal Sons to the children of men. And the co-ordination and interassociation of these spirit endowments constitute man a spirit personality in potential destiny.

(1136.1) 103:6.6 Always must man’s inner spirit depend for its expression and self-realization upon the mechanism and technique of the mind. Likewise must man’s outer experience of material reality be predicated on the mind consciousness of the experiencing personality. Therefore are the spiritual and the material, the inner and the outer, human experiences always correlated with the mind function and conditioned, as to their conscious realization, by the mind activity. Man experiences matter in his mind; he experiences spiritual reality in the soul but becomes conscious of this experience in his mind. The intellect is the harmonizer and the ever-present conditioner and qualifier of the sum total of mortal experience. Both energy-things and spirit values are colored by their interpretation through the mind media of consciousness.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Evolution
PostPosted:  
Offline

Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:11 pm +0000
Posts: 932
fanofVan wrote:
Are not the 7 Circles of Progress a measure of spiritualization?


I think they are a measure of mind spiritualization and the personality realization. The spiritualized mind requires that the free will of the personality act upon those spiritualized thoughts, and that's what makes the personality more real.

(1207.2) 110:4.2 The Thought Adjuster is engaged in a constant effort so to spiritualize your mind as to evolve your morontia soul; but you yourself are mostly unconscious of this inner ministry. You are quite incapable of distinguishing the product of your own material intellect from that of the conjoint activities of your soul and the Adjuster.

(1223.5) 111:7.3 Why not allow the Adjuster to spiritualize your thinking, even though your feet must tread the material paths of earthly endeavor?

(1210.5) 110:6.10 3. Personality reality. The degree of selfhood reality is directly determined by circle conquest. Persons become more real as they ascend from the seventh to the first level of mortal existence.

(1209.1) 110:6.1 The sum total of personality realization on a material world is contained within the successive conquest of the seven psychic circles of mortal potentiality. Entrance upon the seventh circle marks the beginning of true human personality function. Completion of the first circle denotes the relative maturity of the mortal being. Though the traversal of the seven circles of cosmic growth does not equal fusion with the Adjuster, the mastery of these circles marks the attainment of those steps which are preliminary to Adjuster fusion.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Evolution
PostPosted:  
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:07 am +0000
Posts: 949
katroofjebus wrote:
fanofVan wrote:
Are not the 7 Circles of Progress a measure of spiritualization?


I think they are a measure of mind spiritualization and the personality realization. The spiritualized mind requires that the free will of the personality act upon those spiritualized thoughts, and that's what makes the personality more real.


I imagine that "personality realization" comprises what could be called self-discovery, self-exploration and self-projection along with experiential discovery of the similar meanings and possibilities inherent in other personalities. And becoming spiritualized is only an entrance. The discovery of what to do, what to see, what to think, what to create and what to portray in the spirit is a great adventure that is probably partly covered in the 7 Circles of Progress if the person has the potential to realize such things in the mortal life.

A year or so ago there was a poster here who claimed that humans cannot truly be creative. I believe in that he totally lacked comprehension of the meaning and practical realization of the 7 Circles of Progress.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Evolution
PostPosted:  
Offline

Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:11 pm +0000
Posts: 932
I think personality realization occurs as a result of doing the Father's will. Isn't that the way Jesus progressed through all seven cosmic circles?


Top
 Profile Send private message  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Evolution
PostPosted:  
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:16 pm +0000
Posts: 1124
Location: Nanticoke NY
"No personality eventuates" - Bradley does this apply even to the Supreme Being? Personality preexists the eventuational reality, even that which could only exist in the auspices of time? I am sorry but I just do not understand how, for instance, the Melchizedeks each have distinct personalities whereas their labours are shared in common. How angels who are in the image of the Infinite Spirit, would assist the doing of the First Source and Center, but each and every single one are different? They all appear to be the same, but how could you know one distinctly, as a guardian, or a coworker, or a sibling? Are you saying that you have enough affirmational experience to claim these truths or are you merely dictating the postulates and theories of the Authors of the Urantia Papers? Or maybe man is symbol of the first source and center to the angels and they truly cling to the tree of life as (the Power Circulation of the grand universe, the blood of Paradise) birds to cling to branches in order to to rear forth offspring. "For human indiviudals are the ultimate life eventuational pattern of Urantia."

_________________
to the Underlaying Unity of All Life so that the Voice of Intuition may guide Us closer to Our Common Keeper


Top
 Profile Send private message  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Evolution
PostPosted:  
Offline

Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:29 am +0000
Posts: 3969
SEla_Kelly wrote:
"No personality eventuates" - Bradley does this apply even to the Supreme Being? Personality preexists the eventuational reality, even that which could only exist in the auspices of time? I am sorry but I just do not understand how, for instance, the Melchizedeks each have distinct personalities whereas their labours are shared in common. How angels who are in the image of the Infinite Spirit, would assist the doing of the First Source and Center, but each and every single one are different? They all appear to be the same, but how could you know one distinctly, as a guardian, or a coworker, or a sibling? Are you saying that you have enough affirmational experience to claim these truths or are you merely dictating the postulates and theories of the Authors of the Urantia Papers? Or maybe man is symbol of the first source and center to the angels and they truly cling to the tree of life as (the Power Circulation of the grand universe, the blood of Paradise) birds to cling to branches in order to to rear forth offspring. "For human indiviudals are the ultimate life eventuational pattern of Urantia."


I do hope for better understanding of the teachings by us all Stephen. Your lack of understanding about the nature of personality will require you taking time to read and study. But no, personality is not eventuated. And we are clearly told, every being has the gifts of personality, mind, and free will and that personality is changeless and individualized and personalized. I am claiming that this is what the UB says and claiming nothing experiential. And yes, this fact and truth applies to the Supreme and the Melchizedeks and the angels. I have no idea why you might think any being anywhere is not an individual person blessed by mind, personality, and free will and whose experience and expressions of that experience are less than unique.

This is such a basic teaching and the source of great delight and the aggregation and integration of all experience, truth, beauty, and goodness by the Supreme who relishes this individuation and unique experience in time and space, the perfecting of all God's children in time who descend and ascend in loving service to one another.

So now you are claiming that the contents of the UB are merely the written "postulates and theories" of the authors of the Papers? Hmmmm…. So then, as I have previously pointed out and despite your many claims and protestations to the contrary, you do NOT believe the UB, its authors, or its contents. As I suspected and pointed out, based on your endless contradictions to the Papers.

That's alright Stephen. As I have repeated many times, it is not important to me that you believe the contents and claims of the Papers. It is only important that you acknowledge your disbelief and lack of agreement in your embrace and preference for your own beliefs and theories!! Clarity and transparency are so helpful.

There is no "blood of Paradise" Stephen and the angels have no need of the Tree of Life....ever. Your query as to whether man represent the gods is so very humanistic and typical of those who make god in their own image. An unfortunate and primitive human trait and tradition.

What is the source of: "For human indiviudals are the ultimate life eventuational pattern of Urantia." For it is certainly NOT the Urantia Book. Please do not misquote or misrepresent the UB Stephen.

8)

(9.1) 0:5.11 Personality. The personality of mortal man is neither body, mind, nor spirit; neither is it the soul. Personality is the one changeless reality in an otherwise ever-changing creature experience; and it unifies all other associated factors of individuality. The personality is the unique bestowal which the Universal Father makes upon the living and associated energies of matter, mind, and spirit, and which survives with the survival of the morontial soul.

(13.3) 0:9.5 God the Supreme and God the Ultimate, now evolving in the experiential universes, are not existential — not past eternals, only future eternals, time-space-conditioned and transcendental-conditioned eternals. They are Deities of supreme, ultimate, and possibly supreme-ultimate endowments, but they have experienced historic universe origins. They will never have an end, but they do have personality beginnings. They are indeed actualizations of eternal and infinite Deity potentials, but they themselves are neither unqualifiedly eternal nor infinite.

5:6.3 [Part I]
Personality is potential in all creatures who possess a mind endowment ranging from the minimum of self-consciousness to the maximum of God-consciousness. But mind endowment alone is not personality, neither is spirit nor physical energy. Personality is that quality and value in cosmic reality which is exclusively bestowed by God the Father upon these living systems of the associated and co-ordinated energies of matter, mind, and spirit. Neither is personality a progressive achievement. Personality may be material or spiritual, but there either is personality or there is no personality. The other-than-personal never attains the level of the personal except by the direct act of the Paradise Father.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Evolution
PostPosted:  
Offline

Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:11 pm +0000
Posts: 932
SEla_Kelly wrote:
"No personality eventuates" - Bradley does this apply even to the Supreme Being? Personality preexists the eventuational reality, even that which could only exist in the auspices of time?


The Supreme Being's personality is derived from the Trinity. Technically the Trinity did not eventuate but it is responsible for eventuating. The Supreme himself is actualizing rather than eventuating, and that is because he is an experiential, evolving Deity. God the Ultimate is eventuating.

(12.1) 0:8.10 The grand universe is the threefold Deity domain of the Trinity of Supremacy, God the Sevenfold, and the Supreme Being. God the Supreme is potential in the Paradise Trinity, from whom he derives his personality and spirit attributes; but he is now actualizing in the Creator Sons, Ancients of Days, and the Master Spirits, from whom he derives his power as Almighty to the superuniverses of time and space. This power manifestation of the immediate God of evolutionary creatures actually time-space evolves concomitantly with them. The Almighty Supreme, evolving on the value-level of nonpersonal activities, and the spirit person of God the Supreme are one reality — the Supreme Being.

(4.9) 0:2.15 4. God the Supreme — the actualizing or evolving God of time and space.

(4.11) 0:2.17 6. God the Ultimate — the eventuating God of supertime and transcended space. The second experiential level of unifying Deity manifestation. God the Ultimate implies the attained realization of the synthesized absonite-superpersonal, time-space-transcended, and eventuated-experiential values, co-ordinated on final creative levels of Deity reality.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Evolution
PostPosted:  
Offline

Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:29 am +0000
Posts: 3969
keyword search for "evolution":

https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book/se ... &op=Search

keyword search for "evolutionary":

https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book/se ... &op=Search

keyword search for "evolve":

https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book/se ... &op=Search

keyword search for "evolved":

https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book/se ... &op=Search

keyword search for "evolves":

https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book/se ... &op=Search

keyword search for "evolving":

https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book/se ... &op=Search

WOW!! Nearly 2000 quotes on the subject!!

Evolution is far more encompassing than most people think. Evolution of life on our world is barely the tip of the evolutionary 'iceberg'!! There is far more to consider beyond this obvious example discussed here so far. The biological evolution of material life forms on material worlds slowly evolved over the eons to create habitat for the eventual formation and emergence of sentient life which is connected in mind to the Spirit is really an example of a much larger pattern of reality in time and space.

The Papers tell us the story of how civilization also evolves due to the spiritization of individual mortals and how social progress propels each mortal forward as well into the Mortal Epochs. As goes the parts, so goes the whole but as goes the whole so do the parts gain momentum and direction and collective progress too, generation by generation. The evolution of culture and society and planetary civilization is a form of evolution that is not accidental or mechanical. Experience and knowledge combine with truth and spiritual awareness and growth to deliver the progressive evolution which is our past and is also our future. But more importantly is also the inherent destiny of 7 trillion such worlds in time and space!!

But evolution is not just functional on the material worlds which host the achievements of the Life Carriers and the Adjutant Mind Spirits. The Systems of these worlds and the Local Universes of Systems and the Super Universes of Local Universes are also evolving. God has created free will beings who learn and grow and gain wisdom by the experience of choosing and learning and growing!! This takes evolution to a whole new dimension and generates entirely new and wondrous potentials.

There is that which is and those who are perfect. And then there is that which and who are perfecting. Perfecting by evolution and by experience and by the expression of that experience. And this evolutionary and experiential process endlessly creates more and more and greater and greater potential by every realization of prior potential and by every step of the perfecting process. Wisdom itself evolves by experience and by its expressions. Perfecting is evolutionary. It is not accidental. Evolution is not accidental either. It is a creation and a creative process that is managed.

But evolution and perfecting and wisdom and spiritualization are also entirely a function of personality with freewill. It is chosen. It is experienced and it is expressed by freewill personalities who seek and choose and learn and learn thereby to seek and choose more and more wisely. This is the very essence of evolution. It is not a function of manipulation but a result of freewill experience and expression in time and space!! There is law and order and leadership and management to be sure. But each being with freewill must choose for themselves either true liberty or false liberty, the economy of self importance or that of love and service.

That choice is not predetermined. It is not forced or required. It is not coerced. It is the results of this choice that is evolution. Evolution is the progress derived from experience and the wisdom acquired by that experience over time. Or so I understand "Evolution".

4:1.2 (54.5) Can you not advance in your concept of God’s dealing with man to that level where you recognize that the watchword of the universe is progress? Through long ages the human race has struggled to reach its present position. Throughout all these millenniums Providence has been working out the plan of progressive evolution. The two thoughts are not opposed in practice, only in man’s mistaken concepts. Divine providence is never arrayed in opposition to true human progress, either temporal or spiritual. Providence is always consistent with the unchanging and perfect nature of the supreme Lawmaker.

4:2.4 (57.1) Nature is the perfection of Paradise divided by the incompletion, evil, and sin of the unfinished universes. This quotient is thus expressive of both the perfect and the partial, of both the eternal and the temporal. Continuing evolution modifies nature by augmenting the content of Paradise perfection and by diminishing the content of the evil, error, and disharmony of relative reality.

13:1.22 (147.3) The secrets of Ascendington include the mystery of the gradual and certain building up in the material and mortal mind of a spiritual and potentially immortal counterpart of character and identity. This phenomenon constitutes one of the most perplexing mysteries of the universes—the evolution of an immortal soul within the mind of a mortal and material creature.

18:3.9 (210.3) The Supreme Being is achieving the sovereignty of the seven superuniverses by experiential service just as a Creator Son experientially earns the sovereignty of his local universe. But during the present age of the unfinished evolution of the Supreme, the Ancients of Days provide the co-ordinated and perfect administrative overcontrol of the evolving universes of time and space. And the wisdom of originality and the initiative of individuality characterize all the decrees and rulings of the Ancients of Days.

23:4.6 (263.2) We incline to the belief that the eternal future will witness phenomena of universe evolution which will far transcend all that the eternal past has experienced. And we anticipate such tremendous adventures, even as you should, with keen relish and ever-heightening expectation.

42:11.7 (482.5) Since mind co-ordinates the universe, fixity of mechanisms is nonexistent. The phenomenon of progressive evolution associated with cosmic self-maintenance is universal. The evolutionary capacity of the universe is inexhaustible in the infinity of spontaneity. Progress towards harmonious unity, a growing experiential synthesis superimposed on an ever-increasing complexity of relationships, could be effected only by a purposive and dominant mind.

:biggrin: Bradly


Top
 Profile Send private message  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Evolution
PostPosted:  
Offline

Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:29 am +0000
Posts: 3969
So....universes, galaxies, stars, solar systems, planets...all evolve. Creation in time and space includes much and many that are a result of and continuation of evolution. Civilization evolves. Not only on each of the 7 trillion material and evolutionary worlds but also on the architectural spheres in time and space. Each System evolves uniquely from all others and all Local Universes evolve differently from one another. Each world and system and universe has many unique features and patterns. Just like each being with mind, personality, and freewill develops and progresses uniquely with a very different experience and expression of experience from all our fellow beings in time and space.

Religion evolves. Society and its institutions evolve. Even the Local Universe Creators and God the Supreme evolves. Even the existential Paradise Trinity is participating in evolution through God the Supreme. Indeed, what happens in the universes of time is an extraordinary reflection of the evolutionary and experiential realizations and expressions of what was once only potential. The Supreme gains in power. The Creator Sons gain wisdom and power. Evolution delivers increasing stability and less and less volatility as a function and result of evolutionary progress. This is true for the purely physical and material aspects of reality but also is true of the social and collective culture of the universes of time.

The UB claims of universal evolutionary progress is a stupendous and completely original concept in my own experience. I have not ever read, heard, or considered that evolution was a creative function beyond our world and the starry realms but also included the planetary destiny of civilization, religion itself, the creators, and all the angels and universe family of beings, but also God, and all of God's creation also experiences evolutionary progress and the realization and actualization of potential and the creation of ever more potential by its realization and actualization.

This mechanism and organism of evolution is a perpetual and eternal engine of universe and personality perfection creating the perfecting universes of time and space, which experientially and ultimately affects and completes even those and that which are already perfect and replete in their perfection. Evolution is truly that relationship between the existentially perfect and the experientially perfecting aspects and beings of the entirety of reality...which is getting bigger and bigger all the time and is speculated by the authors of the Revelation to continue for all of eternity to come. WOW!

0:7.7 (11.1) God the Supreme in Havona is the personal spirit reflection of the triune Paradise Deity. This associative Deity relationship is now creatively expanding outward in God the Sevenfold and is synthesizing in the experiential power of the Almighty Supreme in the grand universe. Paradise Deity, existential as three persons, is thus experientially evolving in two phases of Supremacy, while these dual phases are power-personality unifying as one Lord, the Supreme Being.

0:9.5 (13.3) God the Supreme and God the Ultimate, now evolving in the experiential universes, are not existential—not past eternals, only future eternals, time-space-conditioned and transcendental-conditioned eternals. They are Deities of supreme, ultimate, and possibly supreme-ultimate endowments, but they have experienced historic universe origins. They will never have an end, but they do have personality beginnings. They are indeed actualizations of eternal and infinite Deity potentials, but they themselves are neither unqualifiedly eternal nor infinite.

0:12.5 (16.2) The two post-Havona Trinities, the Ultimate and the Absolute experiential Trinities, are not now fully manifest; they are in process of universe realization. These Deity associations may be described as follows:

0:12.6 (16.3) 1. The Ultimate Trinity, now evolving, will eventually consist of the Supreme Being, the Supreme Creator Personalities, and the absonite Architects of the Master Universe, those unique universe planners who are neither creators nor creatures. God the Ultimate will eventually and inevitably powerize and personalize as the Deity consequence of the unification of this experiential Ultimate Trinity in the expanding arena of the well-nigh limitless master universe.

0:12.7 (16.4) 2. The Absolute Trinity—the second experiential Trinity—now in process of actualization, will consist of God the Supreme, God the Ultimate, and the unrevealed Consummator of Universe Destiny. This Trinity functions on both personal and superpersonal levels, even to the borders of the nonpersonal, and its unification in universality would experientialize Absolute Deity.

1:7.4 (31.4) We cannot fully understand how God can be primal, changeless, all-powerful, and perfect, and at the same time be surrounded by an ever-changing and apparently law-limited universe, an evolving universe of relative imperfections. But we can know such a truth in our own personal experience since we all maintain identity of personality and unity of will in spite of the constant changing of both ourselves and our environment.

2:2.6 (36.4) God is eternally and infinitely perfect, he cannot personally know imperfection as his own experience, but he does share the consciousness of all the experience of imperfectness of all the struggling creatures of the evolutionary universes of all the Paradise Creator Sons. The personal and liberating touch of the God of perfection overshadows the hearts and encircuits the natures of all those mortal creatures who have ascended to the universe level of moral discernment. In this manner, as well as through the contacts of the divine presence, the Universal Father actually participates in the experience with immaturity and imperfection in the evolving career of every moral being of the entire universe. *

2:2.7 (36.5) Human limitations, potential evil, are not a part of the divine nature, but mortal experience with evil and all man’s relations thereto are most certainly a part of God’s ever-expanding self-realization in the children of time—creatures of moral responsibility who have been created or evolved by every Creator Son going out from Paradise.



8)


Top
 Profile Send private message  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Evolution
PostPosted:  
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:16 pm +0000
Posts: 1124
Location: Nanticoke NY
59:4.10 The arthropods, or crustaceans, were the ancestors of the first vertebrates. The forerunners of the fish family were two modified arthropod ancestors; one had a long body connecting a head and tail, while the other was a backboneless, jawless prefish. But these preliminary types were quickly destroyed when the fishes, the first vertebrates of the animal world, made their sudden appearance from the north.

Can you imagine an ancestral linneage, within a succession of living lifeforms? A creature, even a single-celled creature, is a "living energy system". That, from billions or trillions of stages, where the increase of one specie was addition via "mitotic division", all of the necessary material is replicated, each containing the reflection of the complete set of functions necessary for life maintenance.

The great transcendent leap of the arthropod, two ancient tribes of arthropod who became the fish family, is a satisfying moment of history: the copper-blooded fish family. The copper-blooded fish family was brought about in the supervision of the 12 Life Carriers, almost a mythical creature.

Think about how all of Urantian life, during the pre-Iron blood age, was supervised by Beings, proceeding on an imperfect (decimal) though divine course. Every stage of sudden advancement in the multicellular animal phase of animal evolution, was that of functional advancement in the adaptive processes, between the relationship between Life on Urantia and Life in Salvington (the sevenfold adjutant relationship).

It is easy to see how the succession of life was given, both mitotically and "from one generation to the next". But not always as easy to see Life as a constant, the same life as contained in both male and female arthropod ancestor of the first fish, when the expression of the life mechanism within such environ contains magnanimously more potentials than the former ancestors. Somehow, the new creature must retain the exact pattern as before. But the Life Carriers knew, beforehand, how one set of patterns would combine with the second set of patterns and were influencing the minds of those creatures, trying to produce a more robust vehicle for adaptive life on Urantia.

76:4.7 The body cells of the native races are akin to the living disease-producing microscopic and ultramicroscopic organisms of the realm.

_________________
to the Underlaying Unity of All Life so that the Voice of Intuition may guide Us closer to Our Common Keeper


Top
 Profile Send private message  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Evolution
PostPosted:  
Offline

Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:29 am +0000
Posts: 3969
Biological evolution is definitely an engineering and chemistry process that is deliberate and well rehearsed. The Life Carriers spend much time in education and experiment prior to their work on the material, evolutionary worlds (read Paper 36). But in every case on all 7 trillion unique bio/chemical life evolutions do the Material Sons and Daughters contribute the violet blood upstep and stabilization infusion into the native aboriginal stock of mortals (read Paper 51).

Likewise is the mind of mortals uplifted by the Spirit ministry to mind, first by the Highest Adjutants of Worship and Wisdom, and later by the Holy Spirit, the God Fragment, and The Son's Spirit of Truth. In both cases, the evolutionary is infused and endowed with those ministries of Divine creation and purification to provide the eternal destiny potential to us mortals, the lowest and most distant of all beings in time and space.

The evolution of spiritualization by religious experience is similar to biological evolution in that new phases and connections and progress can happen quickly and suddenly, including great leaps forward in progress and development. Evolution and wisdom alike are experiential and subject to adaptations and learned responses to situations and circumstances. Change is the inherent urge to survive and to improve and to perfect....which occurs in all life....and especially in the human life vehicle and mortal mind.

65:0.1 (730.1) BASIC evolutionary material life—premind life—is the formulation of the Master Physical Controllers and the life-impartation ministry of the Seven Master Spirits in conjunction with the active ministration of the ordained Life Carriers. As a result of the co-ordinate function of this threefold creativity there develops organismal physical capacity for mind—material mechanisms for intelligent reaction to external environmental stimuli and, later on, to internal stimuli, influences taking origin in the organismal mind itself.

65:2.1 (731.5) The story of man’s ascent from seaweed to the lordship of earthly creation is indeed a romance of biologic struggle and mind survival. Man’s primordial ancestors were literally the slime and ooze of the ocean bed in the sluggish and warm-water bays and lagoons of the vast shore lines of the ancient inland seas, those very waters in which the Life Carriers established the three independent life implantations on Urantia.

65:2.16 (733.6) In this way the life that was planted on Urantia evolved until the ice age, when man himself first appeared and began his eventful planetary career. And this appearance of primitive man on earth during the ice age was not just an accident; it was by design. The rigors and climatic severity of the glacial era were in every way adapted to the purpose of fostering the production of a hardy type of human being with tremendous survival endowment.

65:3.5 (734.2) Long before the Material Son and Daughter, the biologic uplifters, arrive on a planet, the human potentials of the evolving animal species have been exhausted. This biologic status of animal life is disclosed to the Life Carriers by the phenomenon of the third phase of adjutant spirit mobilization, which automatically occurs concomitantly with the exhaustion of the capacity of all animal life to give origin to the mutant potentials of prehuman individuals.

65:4.1 (734.5) Do not overlook the fact that Urantia was assigned to us as a life-experiment world. On this planet we made our sixtieth attempt to modify and, if possible, improve the Satania adaptation of the Nebadon life designs, and it is of record that we achieved numerous beneficial modifications of the standard life patterns. To be specific, on Urantia we worked out and have satisfactorily demonstrated not less than twenty-eight features of life modification which will be of service to all Nebadon throughout all future time.

65:4.2 (735.1) But the establishment of life on no world is ever experimental in the sense that something untried and unknown is attempted. The evolution of life is a technique ever progressive, differential, and variable, but never haphazard, uncontrolled, nor wholly experimental, in the accidental sense.

65:4.10 (736.1) On Urantia the endeavors of the Life Carriers to improve the Satania life patterns necessarily resulted in the production of many apparently useless forms of transition life. But the gains already accrued are sufficient to justify the Urantia modifications of the standard life designs.

65:4.11 (736.2) It was our intention to produce an early manifestation of will in the evolutionary life of Urantia, and we succeeded. Ordinarily, will does not emerge until the colored races have long been in existence, usually first appearing among the superior types of the red man. Your world is the only planet in Satania where the human type of will has appeared in a precolored race.

65:5.4 (736.7) There are, of course, certain compensations for tribulation, such as Michael’s bestowal on Urantia. But irrespective of all such considerations, the later celestial supervisors of this planet express complete confidence in the ultimate evolutionary triumph of the human race and in the eventual vindication of our original plans and life patterns.

65:6.2 (737.2) There is original endowment of adaptation in living things and beings. In every living plant or animal cell, in every living organism—material or spiritual—there is an insatiable craving for the attainment of ever-increasing perfection of environmental adjustment, organismal adaptation, and augmented life realization. These interminable efforts of all living things evidence the existence within them of an innate striving for perfection.

65:8.4 (739.8) As mind evolution is dependent on, and delayed by, the slow development of physical conditions, so is spiritual progress dependent on mental expansion and unfailingly delayed by intellectual retardation. But this does not mean that spiritual evolution is dependent on education, culture, or wisdom. The soul may evolve regardless of mental culture but not in the absence of mental capacity and desire—the choice of survival and the decision to achieve ever-increasing perfection—to do the will of the Father in heaven. Although survival may not depend on the possession of knowledge and wisdom, progression most certainly does.

65:8.5 (740.1) In the cosmic evolutionary laboratories mind is always dominant over matter, and spirit is ever correlated with mind. Failure of these diverse endowments to synchronize and co-ordinate may cause time delays, but if the individual really knows God and desires to find him and become like him, then survival is assured regardless of the handicaps of time. Physical status may handicap mind, and mental perversity may delay spiritual attainment, but none of these obstacles can defeat the whole-souled choice of will.

65:8.6 (740.2) When physical conditions are ripe, sudden mental evolutions may take place; when mind status is propitious, sudden spiritual transformations may occur; when spiritual values receive proper recognition, then cosmic meanings become discernible, and increasingly the personality is released from the handicaps of time and delivered from the limitations of space.

8)


Top
 Profile Send private message  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Evolution
PostPosted:  
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:16 pm +0000
Posts: 1124
Location: Nanticoke NY
Evolution is "An engineering process", you say? I believe that known patterns of life function were applied during the very initial stages of life-implantation. I trust that the Life Carriers proceeded on a "natural course", and that every generation of progressive evolution on Urantia happened based on the potentials given from the previous generations. Now I can see how loosely the term fanofVan, tempting mankind or allowing that. I do not agree with gene hacking as the way to ameliorate human race! It's not evolution! There original way: to socialise and learn from one's household, then to roam freely in search of a compatible monagamous partner, is the only secure path successionally for human evolution.

fanofVan uses term "an engineering process" to describe evolution, when even in this day Professors speak of stem cells as being "immortalized" for experimentation purposes!

You know how to "implant" a gene, but you do not know the cohesive synchrony and the nobility of the unadulturated genome within a naturally evolved human being!

_________________
to the Underlaying Unity of All Life so that the Voice of Intuition may guide Us closer to Our Common Keeper


Top
 Profile Send private message  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Evolution
PostPosted:  
Offline

Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:29 am +0000
Posts: 3969
Stephen claims above: "Evolution is "An engineering process", you say? I believe that known patterns of life function were applied during the very initial stages of life-implantation. I trust that the Life Carriers proceeded on a "natural course", and that every generation of progressive evolution on Urantia happened based on the potentials given from the previous generations. Now I can see how loosely the term fanofVan, tempting mankind or allowing that. I do not agree with gene hacking as the way to ameliorate human race! It's not evolution! There original way: to socialise and learn from one's household, then to roam freely in search of a compatible monagamous partner, is the only secure path successionally for human evolution.

fanofVan uses term "an engineering process" to describe evolution, when even in this day Professors speak of stem cells as being "immortalized" for experimentation purposes!

You know how to "implant" a gene, but you do not know the cohesive synchrony and the nobility of the unadulturated genome within a naturally evolved human being!"


Your assumptions and declarations directly contradict the UB...again...Stephen. Life is manipulated on each world and that manipulation does not cease UNTIL the planet is deemed inhabited!!

Please read Paper 36 for description of the engineering and architecture involved in design and execution of biological evolution. Yes - bioengineering!!! And with lots of manipulations on-planet too!

Have you read the Urantia Book Stephen? Or even Paper 36 of the UB??

:roll: :wink: :biggrin: :!: :idea: 8)

36:0.1 (396.1) LIFE does not originate spontaneously. Life is constructed according to plans formulated by the (unrevealed) Architects of Being and appears on the inhabited planets either by direct importation or as a result of the operations of the Life Carriers of the local universes. These carriers of life are among the most interesting and versatile of the diverse family of universe Sons. They are intrusted with designing and carrying creature life to the planetary spheres. And after planting this life on such new worlds, they remain there for long periods to foster its development.

36:2.14 (398.1) There are over one million fundamental or cosmic chemical formulas which constitute the parent patterns and the numerous basic functional variations of life manifestations. Satellite number one of the life-planning sphere is the realm of the universe physicists and electrochemists who serve as technical assistants to the Life Carriers in the work of capturing, organizing, and manipulating the essential units of energy which are employed in building up the material vehicles of life transmission, the so-called germ plasm.

36:3.3 (399.5) When, in accordance with approved formulas, the physical patterns have been provided, then do the Life Carriers catalyze this lifeless material, imparting through their persons the vital spirit spark; and forthwith do the inert patterns become living matter.

36:3.7 (400.2) During the ages intervening between life establishment and the emergence of human creatures of moral status, the Life Carriers are permitted to manipulate the life environment and otherwise favorably directionize the course of biologic evolution. And this they do for long periods of time.


62:7.3 (710.2) “To the Life Carriers on Urantia—Greetings! We transmit assurance of great pleasure on Salvington, Edentia, and Jerusem in honor of the registration on the headquarters of Nebadon of the signal of the existence on Urantia of mind of will dignity. The purposeful decision of the twins to flee northward and segregate their offspring from their inferior ancestors has been noted. This is the first decision of mind—the human type of mind—on Urantia and automatically establishes the circuit of communication over which this initial message of acknowledgment is transmitting.”

62:7.4 (710.3) Next over this new circuit came the greetings of the Most Highs of Edentia, containing instructions for the resident Life Carriers forbidding us to interfere with the pattern of life we had established. We were directed not to intervene in the affairs of human progress. It should not be inferred that Life Carriers ever arbitrarily and mechanically interfere with the natural outworking of the planetary evolutionary plans, for we do not. But up to this time we had been permitted to manipulate the environment and shield the life plasm in a special manner, and it was this extraordinary, but wholly natural, supervision that was to be discontinued.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 163 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 7, 8, 9, 10, 11

All times are UTC - 7 hours


Who is online

Registered users: No registered users


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You can post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group