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53:7.2 (607.3) Throughout this period Caligastia was advocating the cause of Lucifer on Urantia. The Melchizedeks ably opposed the apostate Planetary Prince, but the sophistries of unbridled liberty and the delusions of self-assertion had every opportunity for deceiving the primitive peoples of a young and undeveloped world.
maryjo606 wrote:Jumping in here just because I was really interested in just how/whether those people were affected by the rebellion and Lucifer's sophistries. Here's a section that describes the aftermath of Caligastia's betrayal - certainly a part of Lucifer's rebellion - and its effects on some of the mortals of those times:
in which we read:67:5.2 Very soon after the rebellion the entire staff of sedition were engaged in energetic defense of the city against the hordes of semisavages who besieged its walls as a result of the doctrines of liberty which had been prematurely taught them.
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pethuel wrote:I work as an English coach for executives and also handle translations. Yesterday I received a project for translation and as I began to do a revision of the English (a book that will be available in two languages) I was shocked by the implications of what I was reading. I don't know exactly how to present this but here goes:
The book is a collection of scholarly articles discussing the possibilities and potential of multiple identities existing by means of virtual reality, and the definition of "reality" in the light (or dark) of digital technology. I can't help but think that at least one group of people is supporting this idea of a sort of "master avatar" that is a digital entity. As a former Bible prophecy student I came to the conclusion that Satan ( I speak in traditional evangelical terms here) has no creative power and therefore attempts to imitate God's creation, therefore Satan's realm is a counterfeit of God's attributes and that the mark of the beast spoken of in Revelation is what gives access to the counterfeit virtual reality of Satan's kingdom. The ultimate "hard token" if you will. The beast and the false prophet of Revelation 11 -19 are (by the teaching I received) the counterfeit of Jesus and the Holy Spirit, and the image of the beast the ubiquitous computer or smart phone screen, the "Black Mirror". Anyway, I do not preach this stuff since the Papers don't dwell on it, but as I mentioned elsewhere, I lived in this stuff for 25 years and it is hard for me not to believe that the world is run by a group of people totally dedicated to a centralized digitally controlled reality. No matter what it is still a temporal existence, be it virtual or not.
Now perhaps this is not a bad thing, IF that is the next step to Urantia being settled in light and life. But I suspect otherwise, not in a negative doomsday sense, but in the sense that this counterfeit virtual reality is the darkest hour before a bright and glorious dawn!
My first examinations of the Urantia Book were a disappointment in one sense because I had hoped for a clearer explanation of Revelation and discovered the Urantia Book doesn't dwell on it, and barely mentions it. Yet learning that Urantia has loving caretakers and monitors such as Machiventa Melchizidek certainly alleviates concerns about a so called antichrist world government and coming great tribulation and other catastrophic events described in the visions of Revelation, yet I am still separating the wheat from the chaff of former teachings and learnings.
So much was about to happen when the Papers were given, mankind was on the brink of great and terrible discoveries with the potential to destroy everything, and considering the mentality of some of the earth's rulers it is amazing that they haven't done worse.
I can only credit the intervention of the Most Highs or their representatives in preventing the extinction of the light of life on Urantia.
Is this worth discussing here in the forum or is it unnecessary? Thanks!
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Makalu wrote:uhm a few points to consider:
digital technology isnt a counterfeit reality anymore than our analog tools were...it just does a better job at modeling reality that gives that impression to some. but personal relationships are always real regardless of the medium
the lucifer manifesto represents not an alternate reality, but an unreality...an existence outside the flow of the cosmos.
the "mark of the beast", the unspiritual attributes of mortal planetary life, exist regardless of any rebellion and on planets not affected by rebellion
most of the "end time" events tossed around in modern christian eschatology occured shortly after michael left...the end of the covenant with the jews.
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Makalu wrote:no, i don't think history repeats itself
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brooklyn_born wrote:How many rebellions were there in our universe?Makalu wrote:no, i don't think history repeats itself
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Makalu wrote:brooklyn_born wrote:How many rebellions were there in our universe?Makalu wrote:no, i don't think history repeats itself
well each rebellion will have it's own unique history
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