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rick warren wrote:Great question! To me it's the age of full adult maturity, an age when one is released from the instinctiveness of youth, when genuine free will truly begins to assert itself, an age of the beginning of spiritual enlightenment, as opposed to material and social understanding. At least that is my view from age 70.
Makalu wrote:i'm not 100% sure how to read the text there. dunno if they're saying the "age of discretion" is around 40 years of age or around 40 years after the "age of full growth" at 20ish. Discretion is tied with wisdom which would make me think it's the latter...around 60 years of age...and since i'm only 62 and we're only aware of growth in hindsight it's too early for me to call.
Agon D. Onter wrote:Interesting question! The first thing that came to my mind when I read the thread is that it was around the time I reached my mid-40's that I truly felt liberated and confident in my own ability to make decisions and to judge right from wrong. Even moreso, it was an age at which I consciously empowered myself to no longer worry about what other people thought, but to truly go my own way and 'do my thing', as they say.
I was curious what the formal definition of 'discretion' is, since I imagine the revelators choose their words deliberately. Here is the dictionary.com definition:
Discretion: the power or right to decide or act according to one's own judgment; freedom of judgment or choice
I think the key here is that one feels empowered/ free to make independent choices. It does not refer to whether or not those choices are the right choices. Being able to discern our Father's will is what leads to good quality decisions, and I think it will take a lot longer than 40 years to get there; at least in my experience.
Experience in better choosing/decisions leads to greater discernment, wisdom, maturity, and discretion. Self mastery grows and feels the pull of the gravity circuits delivering ever better responses at the intersections of decision/choice.
Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:51 pm +0000
Jupiter wrote:Thank you everyone for your responses and I am grateful for hearing from some of the more "wisened" members of the forum. "When in doubt ask the olds". I would love to talk more about your experiences and perspectives - maybe this can be the thread for older members to "wax spiritual" and talk about chronic joint pain.
Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:17 am +0000
Being just 62 years young, my question for you is the same as what I posed to Rick: Do you feel as if your mind now is better...attenuated shall we say? Not so much of a screaming "give me!" but moreso a "what can I give to you" response? Do you find you can better internalize values rather than just process ideas? Have certain concepts within TUB become easier to conceptualize for you compared to 10 or 20 years ago?