This one is easy. We all know that the New Law triumphs over the Old Law. The New Israel of God is the Church. Christians are subject to the Laws Moral, and not the Laws Ceremonial, or the Laws Judicial. Its really pretty basic.

Hello Diego, I have some more questions for you to understand Christianity better. I am a basic thinker and you may have to spell it out a bit better for me if you don't mind. You say that this is an easy one but I must admit that I am dense minded. I have a dear friend in my business partner and he shares your views. I am desperate to understand him better. I appreciate your help in this.

It seems to me that Christians are subject to relative truth and not absolute truth.

Either the laws of God are absolute or they are relative and evolving. Is there an evolving and relative authority or is there an evolving and relative truth?

If the New Law triumphs over the Old Law, does the New Law destroy the Old Law? Does the New supplant the Old? Are Christians subject to a changing God? Or are Christians subject to changing morals?

The time has come to cease bashing one another over the heads with books. Nothing productive is coming of this discussion. It can always begin as a meaningful exercise, learning, practicing how to promote the teachings of Jesus when confronted with arguments from religionists of tradition who condemn the religion of the spirit, but before long these too often becomes childish squabbles of "did not," "did too," "did not,""did too," "did not,""did too," "did not,""did too," "did not,"...

If one finds they're unable to remove personal confrontation whenever posting here they should recognize that they have more work to do on themselves. Jesus is our model; Jesus didn't argue.

Larry

Again, truths are absolute. However, the basic observation is that Christ came UNDER the Law to free us FROM the Law.

Diego,

Laws are meant to be followed, not broken. Please explain further.how Jesus' comimg frees us from the law, and which law(s).

Although you may find this awkward to accept, in fact, the laws of God are absolute, and the truth of God is absolute. HOWEVER, and this is key, God knew, from jump, that we could never fulfill the 613 Commandments of the Law to the perfection that would be necessary to please Him. And this brings us to your next question.

God of course knew this. It was part of his Divine Plan. And so in the fullness of time He Himself came down to Earth as a Man, and thought it not blasphemy to take our form, to be as one of us, to live and die as one of us, to redeem us.

God of course knew this. It was part of his Divine Plan. And so in the fullness of time He Himself came down to Earth as a Man, and thought it not blasphemy to take our form, to be as one of us, to live and die as one of us, to redeem us.

147:7.3 Then the Master proceeded to warn his hearers against entertaining the notion that all olden teaching should be replaced entirely by new doctrines. Said Jesus: “That which is old and also true must abide. Likewise, that which is new but false must be rejected. But that which is new and also true, have the faith and courage to accept. Remember it is written: `Forsake not an old friend, for the new is not comparable to him. As new wine, so is a new friend; if it becomes old, you shall drink it with gladness.'”

Fasting may be an appropriate part of the law of Moses, but in the coming kingdom the sons of God shall experience freedom from fear and joy in the divine spirit.”

Ergo, God sent himself as a Man, the only possibly perfect being that could exist to give himself for us.

"The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord. Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you." (John 20:20-21)

To argue that Paul is any less Scripture than Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John is tomfoolery. None of those four were Jesus either. If we accept that they were inspired by God, we are accepting the decision of the Church.

Riktare - I'd appreciate some sourcing for your post above or some further illumination on its meaning. For example, what does "The master's attonement was the jettisoning of all of the imperfect, rebellious, non-heavenly ways of humans then and now." mean? Did the human condition change by the death of Jesus? What was "jettisoned"? Do you mean, perhaps, the end of the rebellion and the gift of his Spirit?

We know that both Enoch and Elijah lived so perfect a human life that they were translated in the flesh to heaven directly. They overcame their imperfect, rebellious, non-heavenly inclinations. But they did so in a personal way. It was their very own, personal imperfections they rose above.

However, we know the Master overcame all imperfect, rebellious, non-heavenly inclinations of humans everywhere. That is his unique contribution as a human being. That is the function of a Creator Son acting in the capacity of the actualization of The Supreme Being. I think there is an "integrating function" involved there that is a kind of stepping stone between finite capabilities and experience heading towards infinite and transcendent capabilities and destinys. In doing so he became "the light and the way" for all humans to ascend heavenward.