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Paper 121: Who is Sethard?

Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:48 am +0000

Please do we have any information about Sethard apart from the reference found in the LU?

(1338.7) 121:6.4 Philo was a great teacher; not since Moses had there lived a man who exerted such a profound influence on the ethical and religious thought of the Occidental world. In the matter of the combination of the better elements in contemporaneous systems of ethical and religious teachings, there have been seven outstanding human teachers: Sethard, Moses, Zoroaster, Lao-tse, Buddha, Philo, and Paul.
Ángel

Re: Paper 121: Who is Sethard?

Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:43 am +0000

Hello Angel...sorry but my research does not come up with any historical information on Sethard. It would appear, by the list order, that he probably predates Moses as the others are post Moses. I would imagine that Sethard was also one who received the teachings of Machaventa's global disciples in some oral tradition or another as did Lao and Siddhartha and Zoraster and Moses (don't know about Philo but he's late enough to have great inputs from multiple remnants of the Melchizidek missionaries too).

I have been hoping someone else might know something for you. :( :?:

Re: Paper 121: Who is Sethard?

Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:21 pm +0000

Hi Ángel,

It has been suggested here: http://urantia.invisionzone.com/index.p ... ten/page-4 , that perhaps they refer to Seth, the eldest surviving son of Adam and Eve:
76:3.4 The religious rulers, or priesthood, originated with Seth, the eldest surviving son of Adam and Eve born in the second garden. He was born one hundred and twenty-nine years after Adam's arrival on Urantia. Seth became absorbed in the work of improving the spiritual status of his father's people, becoming the head of the new priesthood of the second garden. His son, Enos, founded the new order of worship, and his grandson, Kenan, instituted the foreign missionary service to the surrounding tribes, near and far.

Re: Paper 121: Who is Sethard?

Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:53 pm +0000

That's good input Bart and I was thinking along those lines too. But I suspect Sethard must have been a descendent of Seth, biologically or ideologically.

There are other common names that fit this pattern such as Willard, Leonard and Barnard. Just exactly what an "ard" in a name entails would be an interesting thing to discover.

Re: Paper 121: Who is Sethard?

Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:02 pm +0000

"-ard"
1. a suffix forming nouns that denote persons who regularly engage in an activity, or who are characterized in a certain way, as indicated by the stem; now usually pejorative: "coward; dullard; drunkard; wizard."

Origin:
Middle English < Old French, probably extracted from Frankish compound personal names; compare Old High German Adalhart (French Alard), Bernhart (French Bernard), with 2nd element -hart literally, strong, hardy, hard (cognate with Old English -heard in names), often merely as intensifier of quality denoted in 1st element.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/-ard?s=t

Re: Paper 121: Who is Sethard?

Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:18 pm +0000

Thank you all for your responses!!
Ángel
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