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Are there other Psalms than the Hebrew Psalms Melchizedek cites in 95:2?

P.1045 - §3 ...The word judgment appears only once in the entire Book of Hebrew Psalms, and that particular psalm was written by an Egyptian....

[The word judgment appears about 50 times in Biblical Psalms.]

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King James Biblical Psalms:
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=DIV1&byte=2190116

Psalms as they appear in the Koran (scroll down a tad):
http://www.answering-christianity.com/pslams_of_the_quran.htm


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Thanks Gremlin,

Appreciate the reply. Your Bible link also shows multiple uses of judgment. The link to the Quran uses it twice.

It's a mystery what Melchizedek is referring to if Bible Psalms are the same as "Hebrew Psalms".

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HI Brother Rick 8)

In This Article By Rabbi Louis Jacobs

HE Says That

'' Some of the psalms are attributed to no par­ticular author and are known, in the tradition, as 'orphan psalms'.

It is incorrect, therefore, to say that in the traditional view David is the author of all the psalms in the book. Neverthe­less, the tradition still sees David as the final author of the book, although he is said to have included the works of others in his final compo­sition. ''


http://www.myjewishlearning.com/texts/B ... alms.shtml

Are They All King David's?
It has long been noted that the first Psalm appears to be an introduction to the book as a whole, as Psalm 150 appears to be an epilogue. There is a concluding note at the end of Psalms 41, 72, 89, and106, which suggests that the book is in five separate sections. The rabbinic midrash [rabbinic interpretation from the period of the rabbis of the Mishnah and the Talmud] to Psalms states that David com­posed his Psalms in five books, just as Moses wrote the five books of the Pentateuch. In this Midrash, and very frequently in the Rabbinic literature, David is assumed to be the author of the book of Psalms.

But in the famous Talmudic passage (Bava Batra 14b) on the authorship of the biblical books, it is said that David included in his book psalms written by some who preceded him. The superscription to Psalm 90, for instance, is: "A prayer of Moses, the man of God." In fact, while seventy-two of the psalms are attributed to David, this one is attributed to Moses, and some to other authors. Some of the psalms are attributed to no par­ticular author and are known, in the tradition, as 'orphan psalms'. Itis incorrect, therefore, to say that in the traditional view David is the author of all the psalms in the book. Neverthe­less, the tradition still sees David as the final author of the book, although he is said to have included the works of others in his final compo­sition. In 2 Samuel 23:1 David is described as 'the sweet singer in Israel'.


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Maybe that's it Coop!

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Not Sure , Maybe eh

There Maybe Psalms In The Book Of Enoch ?

There Are Some From The Dead Sea Scrolls .

''Other psalms ;Most manuscripts of the Septuagint also include a Psalm 151, present in Eastern Orthodox translations; a Hebrew version of this poem was found in the Psalms Scroll of the Dead Sea Scrolls. The Psalms Scroll presents the Psalms in an order different from that found elsewhere, and also contains a number of non-canonical poems and hymns in the same style as the canonical Psalms, suggesting that the current collection of 150 may have been selected from a wider set.

Some versions of the Peshitta also include Psalms 152–155.''

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Thanks much Coop. Looks like the door has to be left open on this.

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rick warren wrote:
Bible knowing Amigos,

Are there other Psalms than the Hebrew Psalms Melchizedek cites in 95:2?

P.1045 - §3 ...The word judgment appears only once in the entire Book of Hebrew Psalms, and that particular psalm was written by an Egyptian....


The usual word for "judgment" used in the Hebrew Psalms is "mishpat", but the word which is used only twice is "din" and it occurs only at Psalms 76:9 and Psalms 140:13 (verse numbers correspond to Hebrew, not English Bibles).

When I encountered the same "problem" reading 95:2.10 I thought of the rare word "din", but it occurs twice, not once. So, either Psalm 140 was not originally part of the Hebrew Psalms (but all the massoretic and other sources suggest that it always was!) or the solution to this riddle lies elsewhere.

Ok, there is also another rare word (which occurs only once in Hebrew Psalms) ta`am which is translated (in old English versions like KJV) as "judgment" but ta`am means properly "taste", i.e. perception, understanding, so it definitely does not fit the context of judgment for sins after death discussed at paper 95.

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