Hahaha....no worries!!

The UB describes the faith experience in ways I had never imagined. Lots of people on this world are having faith experiences and giving faith expressions to others as well! Indeed both faith and religious experience are so innate and natural and internally responsive to the Spirit ministry that mortal mind cannot even conceive or explain true religious experience. Can one have religious experience without being "religious"??? Yes. For sure.

There are those that require certain beliefs and acts and expressions for any to be "saved" from damnation or to earn survival status. Thankfully God has no such creedal requirements. Of course fusion and eternal standing are another matter and there are rather strenuous requirements for such ascendency that do require knowledge and effort. But the birth of soul happens to children and primitives and barbarians ….and atheists….and when we give the love we feel to others, we are having a religious experience...a bona fide and genuine soul feeding spiritualizing progressive experience!!

Good reminder. I often get carried away with the minutiae of a mechanical nature and forget what inspired that shift within me in the first place (i.e. reading the Jesus papers). So hard knowing what to do when someone is caught up in a "sign seeking" mindset. It's also hard to put myself in his shoes because I already had a moderate faith when I came across the UB, but for him he's questioning everything, even the validity/story of the historical Jesus.

That may sound more shocking to certain parts of America, but here in the UK the religious are a dying breed (from where I'm standing) and the bible mostly isn't seen as any kind of authority.

And....that makes 5...!!!!

Holy Cow!!

I once had a sign-seeking mindset, even after falling in love with Jesus. I just wanted assurances that I had actually found him and wasn't dreaming it up. It's always been a comfort to me to read the amazingly truthful revelation which informs us that once we start looking for God, it's proof that he has already found us. A soul can't seek for God without God himself urging him to seek in the first place. So searching for God is evidence that we have actually found him, but don't recognize him as God.

(1440.2) 130:8.2 Said Jesus: “If you truly want to find God, that desire is in itself evidence that you have already found him. Your trouble is not that you cannot find God, for the Father has already found you; your trouble is simply that you do not know God. Have you not read in the Prophet Jeremiah, ‘You shall seek me and find me when you shall search for me with all your heart’?

Your friend is looking, so you can tell him with certainty that God has already found him. All your friend has to do is recognize him within his own heart and mind, it's that rebirth, or born of the spirit thing Jesus spoke of. It's a waking up to the fact that you're not alone within your inner, deeper mind. The only way to do that is to realize God is a loving person who you are desperately trying to love in return within your inner soul.

(2078:2) 195:6.16 And so, when you once start out to find God, that is the conclusive proof that God has already found you.
(1733:6) 155:6.18    You are my apostles, and to you religion shall not become a theologic shelter to which you may flee in fear of facing the rugged realities of spiritual progress and idealistic adventure; but rather shall your religion become the fact of real experience which testifies that God has found you, idealized, ennobled, and spiritualized you, and that you have enlisted in the eternal adventure of finding the God who has thus found and sonshipped you.



It's not shocking to me that the UK has fallen victim to secularism. It's all part of evolution which will eventually give way under its own weight. The seeds of its own destruction are built into it. But it is sad that there are so many lost souls searching for something that they already have and can't seem to recognize. Sooner or later reality and truth will win the day, and sincere seekers, despite their doubts, will actually see.

(1960.1) 181:2.20 Philip, you have always wanted to be shown, and very soon shall you see great things. Far better that you should have seen all this by faith, but since you were sincere even in your material sightedness, you will live to see my words fulfilled. And then, when you are blessed with spiritual vision, go forth to your work, dedicating your life to the cause of leading mankind to search for God and to seek eternal realities with the eye of spiritual faith and not with the eyes of the material mind. Remember, Philip, you have a great mission on earth, for the world is filled with those who look at life just as you have tended to.

(1766:4) 159:3.8 The world is filled with hungry souls who famish in the very presence of the bread of life; men die searching for the very God who lives within them. Men seek for the treasures of the kingdom with yearning hearts and weary feet when they are all within the immediate grasp of living faith. Faith is to religion what sails are to a ship; it is an addition of power, not an added burden of life. There is but one struggle for those who enter the kingdom, and that is to fight the good fight of faith. The believer has only one battle, and that is against doubt--unbelief.

(1098:4) 100:5.1 The world is filled with lost souls, not lost in the theologic sense but lost in the directional meaning, wandering about in confusion among the isms and cults of a frustrated philosophic era. Too few have learned how to install a philosophy of living in the place of religious authority. (The symbols of socialized religion are not to be despised as channels of growth, albeit the river bed is not the river.)

For the Spartans, the post-Troian conquest mean an era of duality: internal values versus external values. How to project the external values of Troi as a means of conquering other tribes, whereas how to keep those values, hold them in tact, without internally distorting the original goals.

Therefore, you can engage in discourse with philosophers, or with scientists, and maybe you can see how your attempts to actually enlighten others fell on deaf, or closed, ears. Philosophers are called to teach other pupils, not others who have already gained knowledge!

You know better than to think there is superiority of the dove over the serpent! You know better than to suggest that it is better to be a philosopher than a scientist!