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Without example or proof. And yet we believe. A world filled with future Agondonters!


I am amazed that you say there is no proof of the existence of seraphim and sanobim. Do you not ponder the nature of "spiritual gravity" or what it might imply "to be a deflector", to play that kind of role in the universe? If you look out for children, there is a propensity to feel an effulgence of love for them. Where does that love come from? What kind of experience do you have in the mind?


Further, there are rational proofs, that Like Jacob father of Israel, one may assert, and "try to redeem upon missions of spiritual service". On the Catholic Traditions, there are basic commandments: "feed the hungry; clothe the naked", that follow in the service of John the Baptist, that well if you do those things, how could angels not cooperate? Think about a branch fallen on the road: you can swerve around it or you could stop to haul it at least over to the shoulder. But you have to wonder if that branch will remain for someone who is less skilled, less aware of the conditions he will encounter. If it take you less time to do something while you are working, to patch something up that the owner did not ask you to fix, but that is simply intuition of how to be of service unto others.

This actually seems possible to me: that by intending to share common experiences with seraphim, one may acquire trust and knowledge on the actual order of the divine spiritual administration of Urantia. How one human individual may experience such trust or identify such relationships might be different, though there is a common experience from all human individuals to share in the life of cherubim and sanobim. If we could simply find the proper measurement: say devotion or loyalty to universe service (even though difficult to measure this for anyone but one's self), we could begin upon the approach to acquire insight, in the "spiritual fragrance of the human mind", that causes the reception of such mind to become more amenable for seraphic guidance/cooperation/service.

Or if you go to see the people of Flint Michigan, and find that young men have been wandering the streets, drinking liquor from glass flasks, and crushing them on the sidewalk, but during the daylight 4-year olds running barefoot, well you can imagine that angel want that situation to improve so if you can just clean it up before the dawn breaks, there is no need to worry about it.

But within that realm of rational thought, you must believe that angels are conspiring, to inundate the minds of mankind, the eternal radiance that leads to thought on higher energetic scales of current. When people are enlisted to fulfill the mission of an organisation, a corporation or a nation, they have greater zeal to be successful because they cooperating to complete the goals they know are in common. If you are the settler of the age of life, well this comes from the traditions of the exploration of America that began with the Vikings in 900's A.D and the Muslims in 1100's A.D. Their tribes already started to mix before even the Dutch.

Then even if the proof is confounding to explain, if a man thinks he knows all about it, maybe but his tongue will be tied by Freudian slips, when in attempting to show to another person how such actualities of universe dynamics operate, and what experiences that one should indicate in order to suggest these possibilities. Of course, the means of seraphic planetary Government, is most inscrutable, and what reason do we have as a society to inquire about their methods, until we can say that we are a trustworthy people. But in every family, in every household, there is the prospective of how welcoming one is, how touching and loving the relationship are, and you can imagine angeln always striving to increase such quality within homes. If a family is most welcoming of pilgrim, you have to wonder if such a group can also be most welcoming of seraphic guardians, any kind of help they can receive at all from the Third Source and Center.

Bradley suggests that there is no proof that angels exist, but I attempting to recite all the experiences I know where angels come to help my family. I know all too well how such affirmations can invite the suspicion of others, that I must have schizophrenia or be a solipsist for thinking or proclaiming such realities. But also, I would truly be ashamed if I claimed that I did not know angels, if they exist, IF I can explain a rathional proof to another person. The only condition I ask is that if you consider what I am saying, then illuminate your own present experiences already receiving that guidance.

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Yet you do not and cannot provide any empirical "evidence " of angels...or any celestials...or God...or heaven.

And yet 6 billion people have belief and faith in all of those realities.


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Bradley - not sure how SEla Kelly got the thought that you think there are no Angels - but the fact you said is there is no example or proof ... interesting side topic here - as there is not much proof of angels I think - no pics - some stories in the bible that some angels were around - say like Abraham and Lot stuff - but these may have not been actual angels but higher beings - the UB is saying I think that they are MIND/Spiritual beings and maybe we have not seen them - but are in our thoughts and Mind and Spirit - so maybe gets a little technical on the jargon - did we hear or think we saw an Angel or an actual higher being that wasn't an Angel per say ... the UB is laying out a whole huge higherarchy of higher beings - angles and seraphim being all part of the vast unseen vistas that are beyond our ability to "see" - but they are still there in our Mind and Soul and Spirit and helping us and things along as they can - in my humble opinion anyway after reading .... let me know
personally - I think thyere are angels all around us all the time - can't see them or anything - but can let the Soul and Spirit know they are there or they can let us know they are there in our Mind and Spirit - not they any are talking directly to me or anything - but I have Faith and I seem to know they are there from time to time ...


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As Jesus explained to John Mark, he was reared by his parents in an environment of "love and wisdom." John Mark rendered his experiencial proofs "of love" to the First Source and Center, and "of wisdom" to the Third Source and Center. The Third Source and Center represents all beings who are created from the pattern of the Divine Minister, every Seraph and Sanobima. Therefore, I theorise that angels can be known "by the Grace of God", by what Emanuel Swedborg and others in this forum have described as "a cold flame", the connection between the souls of mankind and seraphim in the shared life of the Holy Spirit (the Spirit of the Third Source as Katroof took great pains to explain it and I hope I said that right). The grace felt in the souls of human individuals represents, to me, a relationship that seraphim have with man, even if the intellectual symbolism and expressions of people are distorted. Sometime, in the future of Urantia Progress, we will observe a more copacetic or harmonious means of human socialism (socialization, sorry), a reflection of the tender and mutual support that all children of the Third Source and Center actually provide to each other in the Seventh Universe. For now, Steve is correct we do not exactly "see" their forms, since such beings spring from the source of MIND, and yes do they share their existences WITHIN that MIND OF THE UNIVERSE? But the territory within the souls of mankind, in "the emergence" of the Supreme Being of every human indivduals' own experiencial ascent, foretokens that even if the Supreme Being is not a recognisable individual personality, the Ascenders Paradise Sons are all like Him, and how much service must each one have received from seraphic planetary ministry, from seconaphim central ministry, and yes from every escalon of government administration from the Third Source and Center, created beings like sanobim who fulfill the mandates of the Eternal Creator Sons.

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Bradley - not sure how SEla Kelly got the thought that you think there are no Angels - but the fact you said is there is no example or proof ... interesting side topic here - as there is not much proof of angels I think - no pics - some stories in the bible that some angels were around - say like Abraham and Lot stuff - but these may have not been actual angels but higher beings - the UB is saying I think that they are MIND/Spiritual beings and maybe we have not seen them - but are in our thoughts and Mind and Spirit - so maybe gets a little technical on the jargon - did we hear or think we saw an Angel or an actual higher being that wasn't an Angel per say ... the UB is laying out a whole huge higherarchy of higher beings - angles and seraphim being all part of the vast unseen vistas that are beyond our ability to "see" - but they are still there in our Mind and Soul and Spirit and helping us and things along as they can - in my humble opinion anyway after reading .... let me know
personally - I think thyere are angels all around us all the time - can't see them or anything - but can let the Soul and Spirit know they are there or they can let us know they are there in our Mind and Spirit - not they any are talking directly to me or anything - but I have Faith and I seem to know they are there from time to time ...


I agree...nicely said. :idea: 8)


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well i looked up on search for angels - 306 mentions in the UB - haven't read them all - but the Agels are out there - seems they are ministering to all us "mortals" but by Mind or Spirit - not many of anyone has seen them - but they would dwell in the spirit and Mind and they do protect us mortals in some way - mostly unseen I would say - and would guess we find out more in the afterlife of this mortal body as we advance in the great beyond ... hmmm - will have to read up on the pages the UB mentions


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OK will start with a few bits from the UB


4:5.2 (60.1) One of the greatest sources of confusion on Urantia concerning the nature of God grows out of the failure of your sacred books clearly to distinguish between the personalities of the Paradise Trinity and between Paradise Deity and the local universe creators and administrators. During the past dispensations of partial understanding, your priests and prophets failed clearly to differentiate between Planetary Princes, System Sovereigns, Constellation Fathers, Creator Sons, Superuniverse Rulers, the Supreme Being, and the Universal Father. Many of the messages of subordinate personalities, such as Life Carriers and various orders of angels, have been, in your records, presented as coming from God himself. Urantian religious thought still confuses the associate personalities of Deity with the Universal Father himself, so that all are included under one appellation.

4:5.2 (60.1) One of the greatest sources of confusion on Urantia concerning the nature of God grows out of the failure of your sacred books clearly to distinguish between the personalities of the Paradise Trinity and between Paradise Deity and the local universe creators and administrators. During the past dispensations of partial understanding, your priests and prophets failed clearly to differentiate between Planetary Princes, System Sovereigns, Constellation Fathers, Creator Sons, Superuniverse Rulers, the Supreme Being, and the Universal Father. Many of the messages of subordinate personalities, such as Life Carriers and various orders of angels, have been, in your records, presented as coming from God himself. Urantian religious thought still confuses the associate personalities of Deity with the Universal Father himself, so that all are included under one appellation.

7:7.3 (89.2) The primal Son and his Sons are engaged in making a universal revelation of the spiritual and personal nature of the Father to all creation. In the central universe, the superuniverses, the local universes, or on the inhabited planets, it is a Paradise Son who reveals the Universal Father to men and angels. The Eternal Son and his Sons reveal the avenue of creature approach to the Universal Father. And even we of high origin understand the Father much more fully as we study the revelation of his character and personality in the Eternal Son and in the Sons of the Eternal Son.

whoa heavy one here !!!
8:4.5 (94.7) As the Sons of God are engaged in the gigantic task of revealing the Father’s personality of love to a universe, so is the Infinite Spirit dedicated to the unending ministry of revealing the combined love of the Father and the Son to the individual minds of all the children of each universe. In these local creations the Spirit does not come down to the material races in the likeness of mortal flesh as do certain of the Sons of God, but the Infinite Spirit and his co-ordinate Spirits do downstep themselves, do joyfully undergo an amazing series of divinity attenuations, until they appear as angels to stand by your side and guide you through the lowly paths of earthly existence.


nice the "lowly paths of earthly existence" very nice 5 5 5

13:1.19 (146.8) 6. SERAPHINGTON. This sphere is the “bosom of the Son and the Spirit” and is the home world of the vast hosts of unrevealed beings created by the Son and the Spirit. This is also the destiny sphere of all ministering orders of the angelic hosts, including supernaphim, seconaphim, and seraphim. There also serve in the central and outlying universes many orders of superb spirits who are not “ministering spirits to those who shall be heirs of salvation.” All these spirit workers in all levels and realms of universe activities look upon Seraphington as their Paradise home.

17:3.6 (201.4) The formal records of the universes are passed up by and through the angelic recorders, but the true spiritual records are assembled by reflectivity and are preserved in the minds of suitable and appropriate personalities belonging to the family of the Infinite Spirit. These are the live records in contrast with the formal and dead records of the universe, and they are perfectly preserved in the living minds of the recording personalities of the Infinite Spirit.

yes is a huge order of beings

17:8.2 (205.3) Together with their Infinite Mother Spirit, the Supreme Spirit groups are the immediate creators of the vast creature family of the Third Source and Center. All orders of the ministering spirits spring from this association. Primary supernaphim originate in the Infinite Spirit; secondary beings of this order are created by the Master Spirits; tertiary supernaphim by the Seven Spirits of the Circuits. The Reflective Spirits, collectively, are the mother-makers of a marvelous order of the angelic hosts, the mighty seconaphim of the superuniverse services. A Creative Spirit is the mother of the angelic orders of a local creation; such seraphic ministers are original in each local universe, though they are fashioned after the patterns of the central universe. All these creators of ministering spirits are only indirectly assisted by the central lodgment of the Infinite Spirit, the original and eternal mother of all the angelic ministers.

whoa and double WHOA !

23:3.2 (260.6) The universe is well supplied with spirits who utilize gravity for purposes of transit; they can go anywhere any time—instanter—but they are not persons. Certain other gravity traversers are personal beings, such as Gravity Messengers and Transcendental Recorders, but they are not available to the super- and the local universe administrators. The worlds teem with angels and men and other highly personal beings, but they are handicapped by time and space: The limit of velocity for most nonenseraphimed beings is 186,280 miles of your world per second of your time; the midway creatures and certain others can, often do, attain double velocity—372,560 miles per second—while the seraphim and others can traverse space at triple velocity, about 558,840 miles per second. There are, however, no transit or messenger personalities who function between the instantaneous velocities of the gravity traversers and the comparatively slow speeds of the seraphim, except the Solitary Messengers.

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6. Guardian Angels After Death
113:6.1 (1246.5) Having told you something of the ministry of seraphim during natural life, I will endeavor to inform you about the conduct of the guardians of destiny at the time of the mortal dissolution of their human associates. Upon your death, your records, identity specifications, and the morontia entity of the human soul—conjointly evolved by the ministry of mortal mind and the divine Adjuster—are faithfully conserved by the destiny guardian together with all other values related to your future existence, everything that constitutes you, the real you, except the identity of continuing existence represented by the departing Adjuster and the actuality of personality.

113:6.2 (1246.6) The instant the pilot light in the human mind disappears, the spirit luminosity which seraphim associate with the presence of the Adjuster, the attending angel reports in person to the commanding angels, successively, of the group, company, battalion, unit, legion, and host; and after being duly registered for the final adventure of time and space, such an angel receives certification by the planetary chief of seraphim for reporting to the Evening Star (or other lieutenant of Gabriel) in command of the seraphic army of this candidate for universe ascension. And upon being granted permission from the commander of this highest organizational unit, such a guardian of destiny proceeds to the first mansion world and there awaits the consciousizing of her former ward in the flesh.

very army oriented choice of words I must say...group - company - battalion - unit - legion and host - but ok

113:6.3 (1247.1) In case the human soul fails of survival after having received the assignment of a personal angel, the attending seraphim must proceed to the headquarters of the local universe, there to witness to the complete records of her complement as previously reported. Next she goes before the tribunals of the archangels, to be absolved from blame in the matter of the survival failure of her subject; and then she goes back to the worlds, again to be assigned to another mortal of ascending potentiality or to some other division of seraphic ministry.

so a very "female" angel this sounds like hmmm


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great chapter here - so now I know what happens after this body kicks the bucket... and hoping I survive !!!

113:6.4 (1247.2) But angels minister to evolutionary creatures in many ways aside from the services of personal and group guardianship. Personal guardians whose subjects do not go immediately to the mansion worlds do not tarry there in idleness awaiting the dispensational roll calls of judgment; they are reassigned to numerous ministering missions throughout the universe.

113:6.5 (1247.3) The guardian seraphim is the custodial trustee of the survival values of mortal man’s slumbering soul as the absent Adjuster is the identity of such an immortal universe being. When these two collaborate in the resurrection halls of mansonia in conjunction with the newly fabricated morontia form, there occurs the reassembly of the constituent factors of the personality of the mortal ascender.

113:6.6 (1247.4) The Adjuster will identify you; the guardian seraphim will repersonalize you and then re-present you to the faithful Monitor of your earth days.

113:6.7 (1247.5) And even so, when a planetary age ends, when those in the lower circles of mortal achievement are forgathered, it is their group guardians who reassemble them in the resurrection halls of the mansion spheres, even as your record tells: “And he shall send his angels with a great voice and shall gather together his elect from one end of the realm to another.”

113:6.8 (1247.6) The technique of justice demands that personal or group guardians shall respond to the dispensational roll call in behalf of all nonsurviving personalities. The Adjusters of such nonsurvivors do not return, and when the rolls are called, the seraphim respond, but the Adjusters make no answer. This constitutes the “resurrection of the unjust,” in reality the formal recognition of the cessation of creature existence. This roll call of justice always immediately follows the roll call of mercy, the resurrection of the sleeping survivors. But these are matters which are of concern to none but the supreme and all-knowing Judges of survival values. Such problems of adjudication do not really concern us.

113:6.9 (1247.7) Group guardians may serve on a planet age after age and eventually become custodians of the slumbering souls of thousands upon thousands of sleeping survivors. They can so serve on many different worlds in a given system since the resurrection response occurs on the mansion worlds.

113:6.10 (1247.8) All personal and group guardians in the system of Satania who went astray in the Lucifer rebellion, notwithstanding that many sincerely repented of their folly, are to be detained on Jerusem until the final adjudication of the rebellion. Already have the Universal Censors arbitrarily taken from these disobedient and unfaithful guardians all aspects of their soul trusts and lodged these morontia realities for safekeeping in the custody of volunteer seconaphim.


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whoa - more heavy duty stuff ! lots of guardian angel stuff here !

7. Seraphim and the Ascendant Career
113:7.1 (1248.1) It is indeed an epoch in the career of an ascending mortal, this first awakening on the shores of the mansion world; there, for the first time, actually to see your long-loved and ever-present angelic companions of earth days; there also to become truly conscious of the identity and presence of the divine Monitor who so long indwelt your mind on earth. Such an experience constitutes a glorious awakening, a real resurrection.

113:7.2 (1248.2) On the morontia spheres the attending seraphim (there are two of them) are your open companions. These angels not only consort with you as you progress through the career of the transition worlds, in every way possible assisting you in the acquirement of morontia and spirit status, but they also avail themselves of the opportunity to advance by study in the extension schools for evolutionary seraphim maintained on the mansion worlds.

113:7.3 (1248.3) The human race was created just a little lower than the more simple types of the angelic orders. Therefore will your first assignment of the morontia life be as assistants to the seraphim in the immediate work awaiting at the time you attain personality consciousness subsequent to your liberation from the bonds of the flesh.

113:7.4 (1248.4) Before leaving the mansion worlds, all mortals will have permanent seraphic associates or guardians. And as you ascend the morontia spheres, eventually it is the seraphic guardians who witness and certify the decrees of your eternal union with the Thought Adjusters. Together they have established your personality identities as children of the flesh from the worlds of time. Then, with your attainment of the mature morontia estate, they accompany you through Jerusem and the associated worlds of system progress and culture. After that they go with you to Edentia and its seventy spheres of advanced socialization, and subsequently will they pilot you to the Melchizedeks and follow you through the superb career of the universe headquarters worlds. And when you have learned the wisdom and culture of the Melchizedeks, they will take you on to Salvington, where you will stand face to face with the Sovereign of all Nebadon. And still will these seraphic guides follow you through the minor and major sectors of the superuniverse and on to the receiving worlds of Uversa, remaining with you until you finally enseconaphim for the long Havona flight.


"enseconaphim" for the long Havona flight???

113:7.5 (1248.5) Some of the destiny guardians of attachment during the mortal career follow the course of the ascending pilgrims through Havona. The others bid their long-time mortal associates a temporary farewell, and then, while these mortals traverse the circles of the central universe, these guardians of destiny achieve the circles of Seraphington. And they will be in waiting on the shores of Paradise when their mortal associates awaken from the last transit sleep of time into the new experiences of eternity. Such ascending seraphim subsequently enter upon divergent services in the finaliter corps and in the Seraphic Corps of Completion.

113:7.6 (1248.6) Man and angel may or may not be reunited in eternal service, but wherever seraphic assignment may take them, the seraphim are always in communication with their former wards of the evolutionary worlds, the ascendant mortals of time. The intimate associations and the affectionate attachments of the realms of human origin are never forgotten nor ever completely severed. In the eternal ages men and angels will co-operate in the divine service as they did in the career of time.

113:7.7 (1249.1) For seraphim, the surest way of achieving the Paradise Deities is by successfully guiding a soul of evolutionary origin to the portals of Paradise. Therefore is the assignment of guardian of destiny the most highly prized seraphic duty.

113:7.8 (1249.2) Only destiny guardians are mustered into the primary or mortal Corps of the Finality, and such pairs have engaged in the supreme adventure of identity at-oneness; the two beings have achieved spiritual bi-unification on Seraphington prior to their reception into the finaliter corps. In this experience the two angelic natures, so complemental in all universe functions, achieve ultimate spirit two-in-oneness, repercussing in a new capacity for the reception of, and fusion with, a non-Adjuster fragment of the Paradise Father. And so do some of your loving seraphic associates in time also become your finaliter associates in eternity, children of the Supreme and perfected sons of the Paradise Father.

113:7.9 (1249.3) [Presented by the Chief of Seraphim stationed on Urantia.]


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There's this, Shrimpythai:

38:2.2 (419.2) ...Angels are, therefore, commonly designated by feminine pronouns on the sex planets.


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Greetings Steve!!

There are angels in the Central Universe, the Super Universe levels, and the Local Universe levels.

38:0.1 (418.1) THERE are three distinct orders of the personalities of the Infinite Spirit. The impetuous apostle understood this when he wrote respecting Jesus, “who has gone to heaven and is on the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers being made subject to him.” Angels are the ministering spirits of time; authorities, the messenger hosts of space; powers, the higher personalities of the Infinite Spirit.

38:0.2 (418.2) As the supernaphim in the central universe and the seconaphim in a superuniverse, so the seraphim, with the associated cherubim and sanobim, constitute the angelic corps of a local universe.

38:2.1 (419.1) Angels do not have material bodies, but they are definite and discrete beings; they are of spirit nature and origin. Though invisible to mortals, they perceive you as you are in the flesh without the aid of transformers or translators; they intellectually understand the mode of mortal life, and they share all of man’s nonsensuous emotions and sentiments. They appreciate and greatly enjoy your efforts in music, art, and real humor. They are fully cognizant of your moral struggles and spiritual difficulties. They love human beings, and only good can result from your efforts to understand and love them.

38:2.2 (419.2) Though seraphim are very affectionate and sympathetic beings, they are not sex-emotion creatures. They are much as you will be on the mansion worlds, where you will “neither marry nor be given in marriage but will be as the angels of heaven.” For all who “shall be accounted worthy to attain the mansion worlds neither marry nor are given in marriage; neither do they die any more, for they are equal to the angels.” Nevertheless, in dealing with sex creatures it is our custom to speak of those beings of more direct descent from the Father and the Son as the sons of God, while referring to the children of the Spirit as the daughters of God. Angels are, therefore, commonly designated by feminine pronouns on the sex planets.

38:2.3 (419.3) The seraphim are so created as to function on both spiritual and literal levels. There are few phases of morontia or spirit activity which are not open to their ministrations. While in personal status angels are not so far removed from human beings, in certain functional performances seraphim far transcend them. They possess many powers far beyond human comprehension. For example: You have been told that the “very hairs of your head are numbered,” and it is true they are, but a seraphim does not spend her time counting them and keeping the number corrected up to date. Angels possess inherent and automatic (that is, automatic as far as you could perceive) powers of knowing such things; you would truly regard a seraphim as a mathematical prodigy. Therefore, numerous duties which would be tremendous tasks for mortals are performed with exceeding ease by seraphim.

38:2.4 (419.4) Angels are superior to you in spiritual status, but they are not your judges or accusers. No matter what your faults, “the angels, although greater in power and might, bring no accusation against you.” Angels do not sit in judgment on mankind, neither should individual mortals prejudge their fellow creatures.

38:2.6 (419.6) In nature and personality endowment the seraphim are just a trifle ahead of mortal races in the scale of creature existence. Indeed, when you are delivered from the flesh, you become very much like them. On the mansion worlds you will begin to appreciate the seraphim, on the constellation spheres to enjoy them, while on Salvington they will share their places of rest and worship with you. Throughout the whole morontia and subsequent spirit ascent, your fraternity with the seraphim will be ideal; your companionship will be superb.

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There are angels in the Central Universe, the Super Universe levels, and the Local Universe levels.

38:0.1 (418.1) THERE are three distinct orders of the personalities of the Infinite Spirit. The impetuous apostle understood this when he wrote respecting Jesus, “who has gone to heaven and is on the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers being made subject to him.” Angels are the ministering spirits of time; authorities, the messenger hosts of space; powers, the higher personalities of the Infinite Spirit.

38:0.2 (418.2) As the supernaphim in the central universe and the seconaphim in a superuniverse, so the seraphim, with the associated cherubim and sanobim, constitute the angelic corps of a local universe.

38:2.1 (419.1) Angels do not have material bodies, but they are definite and discrete beings; they are of spirit nature and origin. Though invisible to mortals, they perceive you as you are in the flesh without the aid of transformers or translators; they intellectually understand the mode of mortal life, and they share all of man’s nonsensuous emotions and sentiments. They appreciate and greatly enjoy your efforts in music, art, and real humor. They are fully cognizant of your moral struggles and spiritual difficulties. They love human beings, and only good can result from your efforts to understand and love them.

38:2.2 (419.2) Though seraphim are very affectionate and sympathetic beings, they are not sex-emotion creatures. They are much as you will be on the mansion worlds, where you will “neither marry nor be given in marriage but will be as the angels of heaven.” For all who “shall be accounted worthy to attain the mansion worlds neither marry nor are given in marriage; neither do they die any more, for they are equal to the angels.” Nevertheless, in dealing with sex creatures it is our custom to speak of those beings of more direct descent from the Father and the Son as the sons of God, while referring to the children of the Spirit as the daughters of God. Angels are, therefore, commonly designated by feminine pronouns on the sex planets.

38:2.3 (419.3) The seraphim are so created as to function on both spiritual and literal levels. There are few phases of morontia or spirit activity which are not open to their ministrations. While in personal status angels are not so far removed from human beings, in certain functional performances seraphim far transcend them. They possess many powers far beyond human comprehension. For example: You have been told that the “very hairs of your head are numbered,” and it is true they are, but a seraphim does not spend her time counting them and keeping the number corrected up to date. Angels possess inherent and automatic (that is, automatic as far as you could perceive) powers of knowing such things; you would truly regard a seraphim as a mathematical prodigy. Therefore, numerous duties which would be tremendous tasks for mortals are performed with exceeding ease by seraphim.

38:2.4 (419.4) Angels are superior to you in spiritual status, but they are not your judges or accusers. No matter what your faults, “the angels, although greater in power and might, bring no accusation against you.” Angels do not sit in judgment on mankind, neither should individual mortals prejudge their fellow creatures.

38:2.6 (419.6) In nature and personality endowment the seraphim are just a trifle ahead of mortal races in the scale of creature existence. Indeed, when you are delivered from the flesh, you become very much like them. On the mansion worlds you will begin to appreciate the seraphim, on the constellation spheres to enjoy them, while on Salvington they will share their places of rest and worship with you. Throughout the whole morontia and subsequent spirit ascent, your fraternity with the seraphim will be ideal; your companionship will be superb.

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Great collection, Bradly. Steve, here's another quote, one that uses a male pronoun, referring to a superangel. Seems the higher the angel the more likely to be masculine, on the Infinite Spirit's line of creation at least.

37:2.6 (407.6) The head of these superangels is Gavalia, the first-born of this order in Nebadon. Since the return of Christ Michael from his triumphant bestowal on Urantia, Gavalia has been assigned to the ascendant mortal ministry, and for the last nineteen hundred Urantia years his associate, Galantia, has maintained headquarters on Jerusem, where he spends about half of his time. Galantia is the first of the ascendant superangels to attain this high estate.


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Bradly - Rick - thanks for the posts on angels - am reading paper 38 next
I thought some real interesting stuff here in Paper 114 !

4. The Most High Observer
114:4.1 (1253.4) The sovereignty of Urantia is further complicated by the onetime arbitrary seizure of planetary authority by the government of Norlatiadek shortly after the planetary rebellion. There is still resident on Urantia a Vorondadek Son, an observer for the Most Highs of Edentia and, in the absence of direct action by Michael, trustee of planetary sovereignty. The present Most High observer (and sometime regent) is the twenty-third thus to serve on Urantia.

114:4.4 (1253.7) A Most High observer is empowered, at his discretion, to seize the planetary government in times of grave planetary crises, and it is of record that this has happened thirty-three times in the history of Urantia. At such times the Most High observer functions as the Most High regent, exercising unquestioned authority over all ministers and administrators resident on the planet excepting only the divisional organization of the archangels.

114:4.5 (1253.8) Vorondadek regencies are not peculiar to rebellion-isolated planets, for the Most Highs may intervene at any time in the affairs of the inhabited worlds, interposing the superior wisdom of the constellation rulers in the affairs of the kingdoms of men.

6. The Master Seraphim of Planetary Supervision - all of #6 1 thru 20

7. The Reserve Corps of Destiny and all 1 thru 17 !
114:7.1 (1257.1) The reserve corps of destiny consists of living men and women who have been admitted to the special service of the superhuman administration of world affairs. This corps is made up of the men and women of each generation who are chosen by the spirit directors of the realm to assist in the conduct of the ministry of mercy and wisdom to the children of time on the evolutionary worlds.
It is the general practice in the conduct of the affairs of the ascension plans to begin this liaison utilization of mortal will creatures immediately they are competent and trustworthy to assume such responsibilities. Accordingly, as soon as men and women appear on the stage of temporal action with sufficient mental capacity, adequate moral status, and requisite spirituality, they are quickly assigned to the appropriate celestial group of planetary personalities as human liaisons, mortal assistants. *

114:7.9 (1258.1) On many worlds the better adapted secondary midway creatures are able to attain varying degrees of contact with the Thought Adjusters of certain favorably constituted mortals through the skillful penetration of the minds of the latters’ indwelling. (And it was by just such a fortuitous combination of cosmic adjustments that these revelations were materialized in the English language on Urantia.) Such potential contact mortals of the evolutionary worlds are mobilized in the numerous reserve corps, and it is, to a certain extent, through these small groups of forward-looking personalities that spiritual civilization is advanced and the Most Highs are able to rule in the kingdoms of men. The men and women of these reserve corps of destiny thus have various degrees of contact with their Adjusters through the intervening ministry of the midway creatures; but these same mortals are little known to their fellows except in those rare social emergencies and spiritual exigencies wherein these reserve personalities function for the prevention of the breakdown of evolutionary culture or the extinction of the light of living truth. On Urantia these reservists of destiny have seldom been emblazoned on the pages of human history.

114:7.10 (1258.2) The reservists unconsciously act as conservators of essential planetary information. Many times, upon the death of a reservist, a transfer of certain vital data from the mind of the dying reservist to a younger successor is made by a liaison of the two Thought Adjusters. The Adjusters undoubtedly function in many other ways unknown to us, in connection with these reserve corps.

114:7.13 (1258.5) (The cosmic reserve corps of universe-conscious citizens on Urantia now numbers over one thousand mortals whose insight of cosmic citizenship far transcends the sphere of their terrestrial abode, but I am forbidden to reveal the real nature of the function of this unique group of living human beings.)

hmmm - this is very interesting to say the least !


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