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We are faced with many difficulties on Urantia that other worlds do not experience (although we are told in TUB that at least 2 other worlds in our local system have had similar setbacks). As the Truthbook website describes these difficulties:

The Urantia Book teaches us that our planet is not progressing in a normal way, as are many other planets; as a planet, we have suffered 1)a system-wide rebellion, 2) a default of our Material Son and Daughter (Adam and Eve), and 3) our last revelation of God to the races of mankind, Jesus of Nazareth, was betrayed and murdered. On a normal planet, there would be a whole culture dedicated to teaching of God, there would be in residence an Adam and Eve pair, who would inhabit a beautiful Garden of Eden. That Garden would be a focal point for disseminating and teaching the realities of God, Mankind would know from birth that he was a child of a loving God. There would be no question, as we would have actual celestial personalities here to substantiate that reality. As it is, we have been shorn of those celestial helpers as a result of rebellion and default.

What does this mean for our society, as a whole? What does it mean for each of us as individuals?


I would advise caution with the claim that "...our planet is not progressing in a normal way..." - the key word in that phrase is "normal" which certainly does not mean our planet is not progressing. Unfortunately this is the belief and conclusion of many people, including some students of the UB.


We are told that our world is retarded in many ways and this effect is due to 3 primary causes: our Prince's rebellion; planetary isolation/quarantine; and the default/failure of Adam and Eve. There have been and still are some serious repercussions from these causes.


We are also clearly told that no individual is deprived of the full opportunity to give birth to soul and grow soul and every person, no matter our intellectual or social status or position in time or place, is fully endowed with the Spirit ministries and Mind ministries and the primary gravity circuits of mind and spirit....none of those agents or agencies of transformation and mortal ascendency are in the least affected or restricted by any depravations otherwise noted.


We are also taught that our world, and every world which may suffer any similar set backs or obstacles, also receives compensatory ministries originated by Deity and our Creator Son and the Most Highs and the Seraphic ministers.

114:0.3 (1250.3) Seraphim and their associated cherubim have much to do with the details of the superhuman government of a planet, especially of worlds which have been isolated by rebellion. The angels, ably assisted by the midwayers, function on Urantia as the actual supermaterial ministers who execute the mandates of the resident governor general and all his associates and subordinates. Seraphim as a class are occupied with many assignments other than those of personal and group guardianship.

114:0.4 (1250.4) Urantia is not without proper and effective supervision from the system, constellation, and universe rulers. But the planetary government is unlike that of any other world in the Satania system, even in all Nebadon. This uniqueness in your plan of supervision is due to a number of unusual circumstances:

114:0.5 (1250.5) 1. The life modification status of Urantia.

114:0.6 (1250.6) 2. The exigencies of the Lucifer rebellion.

114:0.7 (1250.7) 3. The disruptions of the Adamic default.

114:0.8 (1250.8) 4. The irregularities growing out of the fact that Urantia was one of the bestowal worlds of the Universe Sovereign. Michael of Nebadon is the Planetary Prince of Urantia.

114:0.9 (1250.9) 5. The special function of the twenty-four planetary directors.

114:0.10 (1250.10) 6. The location on the planet of an archangels’ circuit.

114:0.11 (1250.11) 7. The more recent designation of the onetime incarnated Machiventa Melchizedek as vicegerent Planetary Prince.

114:2.2 (1251.5) This board of planetary directors is especially concerned with the supervision of those activities on this world which result from the fact that Michael here experienced his terminal bestowal. They are kept in close and immediate touch with Michael by the liaison activities of a certain Brilliant Evening Star, the identical being who attended upon Jesus throughout the mortal bestowal.

114:5.3 (1254.3) The absence of the corporeal staff of a Planetary Prince and the material regime of an Adamic Son and Daughter is partially compensated by the special ministry of seraphim and by the unusual services of the midway creatures. The absence of the Planetary Prince is effectively compensated by the triune presence of the archangels, the Most High observer, and the governor general.

114:5.4 (1254.4) This rather loosely organized and somewhat personally administered planetary government is more than expectedly effective because of the timesaving assistance of the archangels and their ever-ready circuit, which is so frequently utilized in planetary emergencies and administrative difficulties. Technically, the planet is still spiritually isolated in the Norlatiadek circuits, but in an emergency this handicap can now be circumvented through utilization of the archangels’ circuit. Planetary isolation is, of course, of little concern to individual mortals since the pouring out of the Spirit of Truth upon all flesh nineteen hundred years ago.


114:6.19 (1256.9) The master seraphim of planetary supervision utilize many agencies for the prosecution of their missions. They function as ideational clearinghouses, mind focalizers, and project promoters. While unable to inject new and higher conceptions into human minds, they often act to intensify some higher ideal which has already appeared within a human intellect.

114:6.20 (1256.10) But aside from these many means of positive action, the master seraphim insure planetary progress against vital jeopardy through the mobilization, training, and maintenance of the reserve corps of destiny. The chief function of these reservists is to insure against breakdown of evolutionary progress; they are the provisions which the celestial forces have made against surprise; they are the guarantees against disaster.


114:7.14 (1258.6) Urantia mortals should not allow the comparative spiritual isolation of their world from certain of the local universe circuits to produce a feeling of cosmic desertion or planetary orphanage. There is operative on the planet a very definite and effective superhuman supervision of world affairs and human destinies.



114:7.16 (1259.1) No one in the local universe seems to know when the unsettled status of the planetary administration will terminate. The Nebadon Melchizedeks are inclined to the opinion that little change will occur in the planetary government and administration until Michael’s second personal arrival on Urantia. Undoubtedly at this time, if not before, sweeping changes will be effected in planetary management. But as to the nature of such modifications of world administration, no one seems to be able even to conjecture. There is no precedent for such an episode in all the history of the inhabited worlds of the universe of Nebadon. Among the many things difficult to understand concerning the future government of Urantia, a prominent one is the location on the planet of a circuit and divisional headquarters of the archangels.

114:7.17 (1259.2) Your isolated world is not forgotten in the counsels of the universe. Urantia is not a cosmic orphan stigmatized by sin and shut away from divine watchcare by rebellion. From Uversa to Salvington and on down to Jerusem, even in Havona and on Paradise, they all know we are here; and you mortals now dwelling on Urantia are just as lovingly cherished and just as faithfully watched over as if the sphere had never been betrayed by a faithless Planetary Prince, even more so. It is eternally true, “the Father himself loves you.”


119:8.8 (1319.1) Urantia is the sentimental shrine of all Nebadon, the chief of ten million inhabited worlds, the mortal home of Christ Michael, sovereign of all Nebadon, a Melchizedek minister to the realms, a system savior, an Adamic redeemer, a seraphic fellow, an associate of ascending spirits, a morontia progressor, a Son of Man in the likeness of mortal flesh, and the Planetary Prince of Urantia. And your record tells the truth when it says that this same Jesus has promised sometime to return to the world of his terminal bestowal, the World of the Cross.*



Me here: I wonder, my fellow tadpoles and future Agondonters, how many other worlds might wish to be so "deprived" as we are on Urantia??!!


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Agon D. Onter wrote:
We are faced with many difficulties on Urantia that other worlds do not experience (although we are told in TUB that at least 2 other worlds in our local system have had similar setbacks). As the Truthbook website describes these difficulties:

The Urantia Book teaches us that our planet is not progressing in a normal way, as are many other planets; as a planet, we have suffered 1)a system-wide rebellion, 2) a default of our Material Son and Daughter (Adam and Eve), and 3) our last revelation of God to the races of mankind, Jesus of Nazareth, was betrayed and murdered. On a normal planet, there would be a whole culture dedicated to teaching of God, there would be in residence an Adam and Eve pair, who would inhabit a beautiful Garden of Eden. That Garden would be a focal point for disseminating and teaching the realities of God, Mankind would know from birth that he was a child of a loving God. There would be no question, as we would have actual celestial personalities here to substantiate that reality. As it is, we have been shorn of those celestial helpers as a result of rebellion and default.

What does this mean for our society, as a whole? What does it mean for each of us as individuals?


I would advise caution with the claim that "...our planet is not progressing in a normal way..." - the key word in that phrase is "normal" which certainly does not mean our planet is not progressing. Unfortunately this is the belief and conclusion of many people, including some students of the UB.


Bradly,
As I state above, the verbiage in italics came from the Truthbook website, so those are not my words. You can find them here https://truthbook.com/life-challenges/f ... ally-exist

I was not intending to say that our planet is not progressing; I agree with you that it IS progressing. I believe it says somewhere in TUB that progress is not always linear; that it has setbacks and ups and downs (paraphrasing here). Also, true and meaningful progress often takes so much time that it is difficult for us as mortals with 75-year lifespan to perceive that progress is being made. So, for that reason, it is certainly understandable that"this is the belief and conclusion of many people, including some students of the UB."


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Yes, I understood and certainly agree we face repercussions and difficulties!!

Good topic. I just wanted to point out the creativity and results of "Plan B"...so to speak. Urantia exists in multiple Mortal Epochs today....inexplicably so it seems to me. What might happen next to propel us forward into further transformation!?

I count you as a student who also perceives planetary progress and one who quivers in anticipation and appreciation.

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114:6.19 (1256.9) The master seraphim of planetary supervision utilize many agencies for the prosecution of their missions. They function as ideational clearinghouses, mind focalizers, and project promoters. While unable to inject new and higher conceptions into human minds, they often act to intensify some higher ideal which has already appeared within a human intellect.


Intriguing. I'll need to read up again about the master seraphim and what they do on a planet like ours.

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114:7.16 (1259.1) No one in the local universe seems to know when the unsettled status of the planetary administration will terminate. The Nebadon Melchizedeks are inclined to the opinion that little change will occur in the planetary government and administration until Michael’s second personal arrival on Urantia. Undoubtedly at this time, if not before, sweeping changes will be effected in planetary management. But as to the nature of such modifications of world administration, no one seems to be able even to conjecture. There is no precedent for such an episode in all the history of the inhabited worlds of the universe of Nebadon. Among the many things difficult to understand concerning the future government of Urantia, a prominent one is the location on the planet of a circuit and divisional headquarters of the archangels.


Aha, I remember the planet being on the archangel's circuit but not that on it is stationed the divisional headquarters. I wonder if the master seraphim interact a great deal with the archangels or if their orders overlap.


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We are also told that as Agondonters, we are some of the most fortunate individuals in the universe...


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114:6.19 (1256.9) The master seraphim of planetary supervision utilize many agencies for the prosecution of their missions. They function as ideational clearinghouses, mind focalizers, and project promoters. While unable to inject new and higher conceptions into human minds, they often act to intensify some higher ideal which has already appeared within a human intellect.


Intriguing. I'll need to read up again about the master seraphim and what they do on a planet like ours.

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114:7.16 (1259.1) No one in the local universe seems to know when the unsettled status of the planetary administration will terminate. The Nebadon Melchizedeks are inclined to the opinion that little change will occur in the planetary government and administration until Michael’s second personal arrival on Urantia. Undoubtedly at this time, if not before, sweeping changes will be effected in planetary management. But as to the nature of such modifications of world administration, no one seems to be able even to conjecture. There is no precedent for such an episode in all the history of the inhabited worlds of the universe of Nebadon. Among the many things difficult to understand concerning the future government of Urantia, a prominent one is the location on the planet of a circuit and divisional headquarters of the archangels.


Aha, I remember the planet being on the archangel's circuit but not that on it is stationed the divisional headquarters. I wonder if the master seraphim interact a great deal with the archangels or if their orders overlap.


Read Paper 37, section 3 for more on Urantia's distinction regarding the Archangel's HQ! No small thing....

Also read Paper 39, section 9 for info on the Master Seraphim- the "Angels of Completion".

So many agents of Plan A still at work now joined by all the agencies of Plan B too. Experiential wisdom now focused on Urantia in unique and powerful ways by the most caring and skillful of beings.

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