Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:06 pm +0000
Makalu wrote:uh huh...that's a stretch to say the least. the danger here is clear...ya might just want to take a peek at some of the evangelical political groups and their ideas about separation of church and state not being constitutional. or file your answer under #2
Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:41 pm +0000
Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:34 pm +0000
toto wrote:And if climate change is the new religion
Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:48 pm +0000
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Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:53 pm +0000
nodAmanaV wrote:Sure it does. If you believe in the dogma of "climate change" you are believing in it no different than you believe in a religion.
Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:54 pm +0000
Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:57 pm +0000
Agon D. Onter wrote:nodAmanaV wrote:Sure it does. If you believe in the dogma of "climate change" you are believing in it no different than you believe in a religion.
I believe in the dogma that the sun rises every morning. Does that make me a sun worshipper?
Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:16 pm +0000
Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:34 pm +0000
fanofVan wrote:toto (Louis, Manny, loucol, JohnnyBones...the one eyed posse!) says: "...if climate change is the new religion...." as though this were a self evident fact rather than a fantasy of his own creation. If? If to whom? And the sidekick responds, in support, that any belief in any fact, fiction, or supposition is "religious" as his "contribution" to fallacy. toto has said that reading a book or believing one to be factual is idolatry. So this is quite a brain trust indeed!! Certainly a clear, concise, and well balanced perception of reality....not!
fanofVan wrote:Does climate change drive others to such distraction or just those who profit from pollution...and Heckle and Jeckle of course?
fanofVan wrote:By the way, the UB considers carbon dioxide a greenhouse gas if you're interested and warns about its dangers to humans as well:
fanofVan wrote:Isn't renewable and clean energy progressive? Isn't coal and oil and carbon burning NOT progressive?
fanofVan wrote:So the charts of a century of carbon dioxide in the air rising precisely in conjunction with the tonnage of CO2 released by coal and oil burning and auto emissions is a fantasy or lie/conspiracy foisted upon us for a century by those geeks who measure this in ice and trees and air?
fanofVan wrote:Crazy town is in full swing...yahoo...and yet another rabbit hole where up is down and the yak yak yak has nothing, still, to do with the topic. Perhaps if 50.1% of the population in a democracy says the climate is changing then it would be "constitutional"? Perhaps constitutionally religious? Perplexing. Nonsensical. Weird.
Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:56 pm +0000
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Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:47 pm +0000
fanofVan wrote:Has someone said the sky is falling? Missed it.
fanofVan wrote:I thought the carbon tax was the sky falling alert? Hmmm....
fanofVan wrote:I am not the one alarmed by or impatient with evolutionary progress through the mortal epochs or obsessed by politics of the very local and recent variety.
fanofVan wrote:Of conspiracies and idolatries, you are the vocal expert.
fanofVan wrote:Some of those lying and misleading charts and all those who must be in collusion...those crooked scientists!!
fanofVan wrote:The one about CO2 emissions falling recently as coal fired electric plants got replaced by nuclear and natural gas fired plants is a compelling, if conspiratorial demonstration of how humans are not the latest and greatest source of air pollution for two centuries. Of course not. Stupid science!
fanofVan wrote:Pollution deniers, defenders, and advocates....truly amazing. I'm no tree hugger but I do like clean air and water regardless of pollution's effect on climate (there actually is an effect on air and water purity, right?)!
fanofVan wrote:I suppose taking lead out of gasoline and paint was based on this same crazy and crooked form of science? Those incompetent rascals!
fanofVan wrote:It's not really friendly to molly coddle crazy....sort of like false sympathy....those who suffer by their own hand and perceptions and myopia are free to do so....
fanofVan wrote:just don't come to a UB study group and deny reality....please.
fanofVan wrote: And also take over every single topic begun for month after month with the same old nonsense....which seldom if ever has anything to do with the actual topic under discussion....rude and self important.
Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:46 am +0000
Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:07 am +0000
Agon D. Onter wrote:Riktare, the title of this thread is "democracy misunderstood". Which meaning of 'democracy' do you think is misunderstood? Or are you referring to the typical confusion surrounding the multiple meanings of that word?