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Riktare, I certainly sympathize with what you have said and I take it quite seriously because I have experienced the extreme of socialism and I now see what you are seeing in the EU. Most Americans are blind to the trends in Europe, or the rest of the world for that matter, because of ignorance, disinterest or apathy.

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Possibly another rationale is the interpretation of the First Amendment of the Constitution of the U.S. which states "all men are created equal". Across the world, the Constitution of the U.S. may be the object that most exemplifies "democracy".


This is certainly an arguable point of interpretation. The US Constitution is very brief and mainly limits the power of our government. The Amendments, which include the Bill of Rights, were literally an afterthought. All men are indeed created equal but this does not guarantee equal outcomes for individuals in our country, only equal opportunity. And we are not a democracy as such, but a representational government of a Federation of States. Jefferson did indeed say that that government is best which governs least and TUB agreed, and added, "coordinates most". An increasing centralized power of government makes it more difficult to govern least and coordinate more as we see in Washington DC and in The EU in Brussels.

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The fanaticism involved does approach the fervor of a quasi-religious organization.


You are so right in stating this. And you restrain your comment and limit it to organization, but I can tell you that the fanaticism is not only seen in organizations, it is just as intense in the individual. And with ever increasing centralized governmental power this very fanaticism is exploited for political ends, and in recent decades has spilled over into the sciences and social sciences.

In many of my post I have had to be extreme and absurd in order to effectively illustrate the extreme and the absurd. For this I have taken it on the chin. But this is a small price to pay for sounding the alarm bells. Yet there are some that would prefer to keep their eyes wide shut. The sky is not falling but there is an ill wind blowing. And Sunshine is the best disinfectant.

Perhaps the Midwayers were responsible for the hacking of emails at "The Climate Research Unit" at East Anglia University and the other hackings by Wikileaks? Interesting to speculate but I am sure 'they' are hard at work helping to steer our planet away from precipices.


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It seems that I cannot express an opinion without being called rude and self-important. Anyone who is not on the same page as you is spewing nonsense. Are you one of those angry white men they keep talking about?

I suggest that you PM the administration to petition to remove me. I am trying to be better but you just won't have it. But don't speak on this forum of a friendly universe because it will sound hypocritical coming from you.[/quote]


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In many of my post I have had to be extreme and absurd in order to effectively illustrate the extreme and absurd. For this I have taken it on the chin. But this is a small price to pay for sounding the alarm bells. Yet there are some that would prefer to keep their eyes wide shut. The sky is not falling but there is an ill wind blowing. And Sunshine is the best disinfectant.


Indeed. Your recent gibberish about "friendliness" is hysterical as well as hypocritical toto, Louis, Manny, JohnnyBones, loucol, etc. For 5 years I have suffered your slander and attacks and been called every low name one might imagine...as have many others here at TB. Your extremism has resulted in your suspension here 3 times or more and another forum once or twice as well for which you have posted vile insults at the mods here and there boasting of these suspensions as honor badges for you that make you proud of yourself. Then you change your name and sneak back with the same old schtick and take over topic after topic with your "extreme and absurd" "alarm bells" but almost never in any topical way....and usual slander toward all who disagree with you (that group is hardly just me "friend"). You are no friend Louis and neither are you friendly despite your claim of "trying to do better" - an admission and acknowledgement of your continuous rants and raves.

You have claimed to be wiser than Nebadon's First Born; suggested the Mighty Messengers mind their own business; and accused that Son of Michael of all manner of conspiracy and unfairness in your defense of Lucifer and his manifesto - known as MannysFesto hereabouts; and warned us of unfairness in heaven where gossip, hearsay, anger, revenge, and danger lurks; and you have claimed nothing can be learned from the UB (or any book) and we should not study the UB and those who do are idolaters; declared the fact of other's claims of circle progress and Reservist standing as accurate here; and many other forms of the "extreme and absurd" including the claim that TruthBook is not a study group for the mutual study of the Papers despite many prior postings to you of the TB Guidelines and Statement of Purpose which are clear and consistent - the hypocracy of your feigned ignorance was apparent by the third time of the same claim. Your most recent sidekick has claimed the UB to be dangerous and warned us, as you have, of the contents and the study of the Papers. Nothing above even begins to list all the names you have called me and the endless and vitriolic character assassinations you have committed over the years here.

While I'm glad you are "trying to be better" (I assume medication and therapy?), you sir are no friend of mine or the Papers or TruthBook or the student body of the UB....and there are 5 years of posts under multiple aliases which clearly prove it. Your clever coyness about my faults attempts to make you appear to be a victim of mistreatment and misunderstanding....nothing could be further from the truth and you know it.

Why the mods here allow your serial stalking and tantrums of extremism I do not know. But I have never requested you or any other poster be banished or silenced here or any other student forum. Been tempted it is true but have not. Like the open forum after the declaration of the Manifesto which lasted 7 years, I agree that "sunshine" is the best medicine and opportunity for students to learn from one another....those who find both agreement and disagreement to allow the contrast to become apparent. It would certainly be more apparent if you didn't change names like hats as your backtrail here is winding and tormented to follow...but it's here posted as written by you. I would think it a shameful legacy but your many names should help obscure its "extreme and absurd" record.

The most recent evidence of your "friendliness" was a PM you sent me stating your intentions of bringing down another student and poster here...also with whom you've had difficulties over the years....and asking my assistance or for me to allow it without interference...a planned assassination...nice and friendly indeed! As you know, I have yet to respond to your PM request for conspiracy...or silence. You have a very high opinion of yourself toto....and it is true I do not share it.

Heard a funny song at a blues festival recently about family reunions with the line..."I don't like most of the people I love." It is rather paradoxical that we are to love others...even those we do not like and even those who do not deserve love, even the lowest of the low still do deserve a father's love. I don't recall that even Jesus liked everyone he met but he did love them somehow....wonder how that works? Regardless, I wish you happiness and love and am confident of our survival from this world and to the next where we might begin to understand one another and laugh about the absurdities and extremisms of this mortal life. I assure you my attitude toward you is strictly personal...I disagree with many students about many things and we all seem to find ways to be very civil and willing to explore new information and new perspectives. I learn far more from those who do not agree with me than by those who do. And your "extreme and absurd" posts have driven me to much study, contemplation, and prayer over the past 5 years...that's a good thing too and I hope I am better for the experience.

Funny thing about hypocrisy - you might want to look the term up next time you claim me unfriendly toward you while pretending innocence and ignorance of the reasons for that. Best of luck as you are "trying to be better"...a Freudian illumination of the profound need for just that!

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Another topic bites the dust. I expect there are very few members who want to spend their time reading these contentious posts. This topic, as too many others have been in the past, is locked. Ponder your purposes for being here.

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