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Thanks gray - a well reasoned and sound post. I agree that the energy conversion contraption and every device operable thereby would create an awesome financial mechanism and free the world from the domination of oil producers and the net and short term effects on all economies (including oil producers eventually) would be tremendous...and positive. It takes many years to convert old systems to new. There would also still be many applications for oil and other carbon based technologies other than gasoline or electrical production.

Whatever new technologies are discovered and developed by humanity are, by definition, evolutionary. From stone to steel and all the steps in between and from horse to rocketry. It'll be okay. The shifts of capital from buggy whips to automobiles decimated one industry while supercharging many others....the economic result was all good and quickly so.

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I think the shift towards 'service' will be to repair the damage we've done and to emphasize things like education, healing and nurturing.

There will still be jobs and 'business' but it will not be about just buying and consuming more 'stuff' (or just being wage-slaves in the production of more 'things')

This is the shift away from materialism. I agree with whoever said that trade is what happens every day (like with China) and not 'politics'

If the shift is to come it will be from the big companies moving towards being sustainable and 'green' for the betterment of all, not merely as a marketing campaign (so treating the workers better etc)

Yes, some kind of 'world-federalism' would eventually be needed but let's hope "the board' includes some visionaries like Ben & Jerry or The Dalai Lama or even Bill Gates and not just Exxon or Monsanto.

I don't think The Urantia Book will play a role until we manage to progress on our own into one of the later planetary epochs, then folks might start to notice stuff like The Urantia Book and its insights.


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It is not that the Urantia Book is the guiding force for social or industrial change, but we who read the Urantia Book are able to make better sense from the current trends, and that the eventuality of human progress will be recognised by those who have studied both history and the Urantia Book.

But the last 30 years has shown a desperate grab for resource-rich properties by both wealthy individuals, and faceless corporations. The extraction of Natural Gases has destabilised north America, and the few and precious supplies of freshwater have been usurped by "the private sector". Those who are "downstream" are sure to experience the calamity of such greed. Recently, we have past the acceptible point of what the Land has to offer the people. But this is partly due to inefficiency: the energy difference in food production, if the fruit is grown from your land versus if the fruit has been grown 1000 miles afar.

Then you have to address the "game" that figureheads play, within the corporaton, when committing crimes as per the corporation, and claiming that they as human individuals are not responsible. It is the tragedy of settling out of court when serious crimes need be addressed, so that society cannot learn; such settlements deprive mankind of formal proclamations and vital morality.

I would say, that Latin American countries have the authority to reclaim properties that have been used for the advancement of one company or individual, if at the expense of the community nearby.

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Speaking of Latin America, I've always thought that the following is a very significant statement.

(64:7.16) An amalgamated race of rather superior potential occupies the highlands of South America.


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Inca and Andite....(and Spanish?)

78:5.7 (873.3) One hundred and thirty-two of this race, embarking in a fleet of small boats from Japan, eventually reached South America and by intermarriage with the natives of the Andes established the ancestry of the later rulers of the Incas. They crossed the Pacific by easy stages, tarrying on the many islands they found along the way. The islands of the Polynesian group were both more numerous and larger then than now, and these Andite sailors, together with some who followed them, biologically modified the native groups in transit. Many flourishing centers of civilization grew up on these now submerged lands as a result of Andite penetration. Easter Island was long a religious and administrative center of one of these lost groups. But of the Andites who navigated the Pacific of long ago none but the one hundred and thirty-two ever reached the mainland of the Americas.

78:5.8 (873.4) The migratory conquests of the Andites continued on down to their final dispersions, from 8000 to 6000 B.C. As they poured out of Mesopotamia, they continuously depleted the biologic reserves of their homelands while markedly strengthening the surrounding peoples. And to every nation to which they journeyed, they contributed humor, art, adventure, music, and manufacture. They were skillful domesticators of animals and expert agriculturists. For the time being, at least, their presence usually improved the religious beliefs and moral practices of the older races. And so the culture of Mesopotamia quietly spread out over Europe, India, China, northern Africa, and the Pacific Islands.

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The world is filled with Andites.

76:4.8 After becoming established in the second garden on the Euphrates, Adam elected to leave behind as much of his life plasm as possible to benefit the world after his death. Accordingly, Eve was made the head of a commission of twelve on race improvement, and before Adam died this commission had selected 1,682 of the highest type of women on Urantia, and these women were impregnated with the Adamic life plasm. Their children all grew up to maturity except 112, so that the world, in this way, was benefited by the addition of 1,570 superior men and women. Though these candidate mothers were selected from all the surrounding tribes and represented most of the races on earth, the majority were chosen from the highest strains of the Nodites, and they constituted the early beginnings of the mighty Andite race. These children were born and reared in the tribal surroundings of their respective mothers.


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It would appear that globalization has been a normal feature of the planetary mortal epochs. Melchizedek's missionary/teachers followed the Andite migrations thousands of years later. Modern globalization is merely an evolutionary extension of what was begun long ago and would appear to be more "normal" than viewed on the "Neighboring Planet" where isolated continents have enjoyed far less amalgamation than Urantia.

When the UB speaks of "one" race within the destiny of every world, it describes the ultimate result of racial-amalgamation. This eventuation is affected in its early results (now and the next 1000 years IMO) by racial dominance, racial extinctions by genocide/disease/disaster, the wisdom and lack of same in breeding patters and priorities, bio/med science and its impact on genetic deficiencies, and the natural cross-breeding of all colors and all cultures which eventually result in one language, one race, one government, and a true sharing of the world of our birth universally.

During these evolutionary struggles there is much that is gently guided by planetary leaders - the Prince's staff and the Material Son and Daughter's Garden - all of which is educational and an example of human potential over thousands of generations. It is interesting how the Most Highs have responded to the new and difficult challenges of moving our world through the Mortal Epochs without such visible examples of such leadership. Yet, despite all obstacles, our world progresses. Globalization is a normal and functional (if unpredictable) process for planetary evolution and transformation.

Isolationism has been most functional for the Neighboring Planet, and there are many who support it still today, but I believe we are told that this ship has left the safe harbor already on our world and we have entered a period of rapid and accelerating change. So....tighten your chin straps and embrace uncertainty by faith and confidence in our source, our destiny, and the most capable and caring hands of the Most Highs....things are going to be interesting.

But for the true believer there is no need for anxieties to be attached to our uncertainties!

If we're not confused, then....we are not paying attention! And if we are certain about what's what and what's next, well...be ready for surprise!! In this life, uncertainty is the only certainty I think.

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I severely disagree with your use of the term "evolutionary extension". Globalisation has historically been characterized with setbacks. It omits the aborted efforts of the Peace Corps, the League of Nations, UNESCO. It is characterized by environmental waste andpopulation devastation. It includes new forms of slavery. There are many, simply a matter of choice, issues rampant in the vast topic of Globalisation. When it comes to the ability to coordinate new ventures, forgetabout it I am not going to argue about the efficiency of computers. But what about the lifestyle changes, the setbacks that computers and classrooms have created for education (maturation).

These are adjustments, momentary, exciting, and they have almost nothing to do with evolution.

The simple matter is that 100 years ago, there were more seeds available to the common man and plenty of land to reap upon. The privitization of the patent, the commercialisation of seed markets, and vast new regulation in Europe to verify seed quality shows that it is now more difficult to experiment in the modern world. Quality standards such as pasteurization have created blind expectation upon the marketplace. This is the condition of Globalisation as we know it. Immense corruption and complacency.

Perhaps the lures of urban life are enough to have you remain content with a sedentery or indoors. But look outside and you cannot as easily array the wonderful benefits of Globalisation. This is not longer a wild forests. Harrisburg Pennsylvania 2011 all of the old trees by the Susquehanna river were torn out by the root.

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fanofVan wrote:
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But for the true believer there is no need for anxieties to be attached to our uncertainties!

If we're not confused, then....we are not paying attention!
And if we are certain about what's what and what's next, well...be ready for surprise!! In this life, uncertainty is the only certainty I think.

I find the statement above to be confusing and contradictory, specifically what I have highlighted?
How can anyone be "paying attention" while being confused?
Anxiety is confusion of feelings where many individualized opposing feelings generated by those who are in close proximity to one's who considers them-self "true believer" as a call for help. When these anxieties are ignored, or disassociated from our beliefs, then are we ignoring the feelings of others and hardening our selfishness against altruism.
Globalism is intended to equalize the gross injustice of a small minority to dominate over the less advantaged majority, based on a belief that inequality will promote a desire to join a minority who refuses to share what they control in order to suppress that majority.

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sela, sounds more like the effects of industrialization, monopolization and population growth than the effects of globalization per se.


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The fact is that what Globalisation ought to be (or ought to have been), which entails the increasing socialisation and tolerance of races and nations, has been overshadowed by individuals who have enjoyed the security/pension of american institutional beaurocracy. Instead of collegiate citizens offering their fledging professionalism to communities abroad that lack water resources, wherewith, and medical skill and supply, out of the identification of needs and mixed with the profit motive, we have seen government officials exit the service sector in order to form businesses of their own.

Those who were endowed with both knowledge and financially began private ventures in order to advance within the economy. That came at the cost of suppression of the public and charitable institutions that they had once vowed to service. But now, the gravest danger is being faced when those officials come full cycle: they left American institutions and now they are coming back into the fold. The conflict of interest began when key knowledge had been taken away from the Peace Corps and other voluntary institutions, and it is has been duly multiplied when these individuals now control financial and agenda-related decisions.

Take notice that many people who were once salaried public servants, after leaving the public sector, has managed to convince and secure subsidies in order to conduct their chosen business. It is of no psychological import until you realise that as a taxpayer and citizen, you were robbed in order to finance their advantages and this cost goes against the original goals of service to gradually improve the sanitation and basic standards of livings in those third world countries.

The students of Michigan State University were shown the cost advantages inherent in their eventually deciding to deprive American Manufacturing, and they overlooked the social costs and the great desolation of American Cities thereafter. For them, it seems, it was purely an arithmatical exercise, but the military industrial colonies and the territorial ports of the pacific coastline cannot be seen as an advantage. The vast licenses have oppressed new factory workers; suicide is escalating in China. These are the consequences of Globalisation. But none of the effects on society can compare what it has done to the land.

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But for the true believer there is no need for anxieties to be attached to our uncertainties!

If we're not confused, then....we are not paying attention!
And if we are certain about what's what and what's next, well...be ready for surprise!! In this life, uncertainty is the only certainty I think.

I find the statement above to be confusing and contradictory, specifically what I have highlighted?
How can anyone be "paying attention" while being confused?
Anxiety is confusion of feelings where many individualized opposing feelings generated by those who are in close proximity to one's who considers them-self "true believer" as a call for help. When these anxieties are ignored, or disassociated from our beliefs, then are we ignoring the feelings of others and hardening our selfishness against altruism.
Globalism is intended to equalize the gross injustice of a small minority to dominate over the less advantaged majority, based on a belief that inequality will promote a desire to join a minority who refuses to share what they control in order to suppress that majority.


109:5.3 (1199.4) But your unsteady and rapidly shifting mental attitudes often result in thwarting the plans and interrupting the work of the Adjusters. Their work is not only interfered with by the innate natures of the mortal races, but this ministry is also greatly retarded by your own preconceived opinions, settled ideas, and long-standing prejudices. Because of these handicaps, many times only their unfinished creations emerge into consciousness, and confusion of concept is inevitable...

Confusion/uncertainty does NOT inherently cause anxiety or fear. Indeed, the purpose or effect of faith and knowledge is facing both confidently. I repeat - if not confused, we are not paying attention to our choices, dilemmas, paradoxes, and all the normal consternations of the mind as it approaches reality. Only prejudice or great wisdom eliminates confusions. Uncertainty is inherent in the experience of the mortal and ascender's life.

102:2.6 (1120.3) Unity is best found in human experience through philosophy. And while the body of philosophic thought must ever be founded on material facts, the soul and energy of true philosophic dynamics is mortal spiritual insight.

Me: the task of unifying the material reality and spirit realities - philosophy or harmonization - is the source of confusion for the thoughtful mind. If we do not have confusion and we cannot cope with confusion, then we are not engaged in such work.

Rigidity of concept is the very definition of a mind crippled by prejudice IMO. Certainty of concepts and understanding in a mortal mind is proof enough of self admiration and false confidence and lack of progress potential by the blinding force of self satisfaction. Not confused? Pity.

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But clarity would be the ideal, which is the maintenance of orientation: the orientation of the human individual therewithin the will of God. I am not offering any predictors, but our ability to recognise increasing truth is a matter of socialisation; we are dependent upon others. But the Spirit of Truth amplifies the energy associated with individual understanding, when it is transmitted to other human minds.

You are emphasizing the fact that man will inevitably become confused at times, but this is owed to our own convictions. Do not confuse "Globalisation" (as a fictitious ideal) with the atrocious struggle to access all corners of society. You are mistaking what the Urantia Book offers (as potential) with the facts of history (as actuality).

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globalization is a fact in the same manner that the brotherhood of man is a fact and its been evolving since the dawn of humanity. There have been, and will be, areas and periods of growth, stagnation and retrogression but there's no logical reason to declare it a failure because it hasn't met your expectations of what it "ought to be (or ought to have been)" so far and no reason to ignore the great strides forward that have been accomplished.


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fanofVan wrote:
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Confusion/uncertainty does NOT inherently cause anxiety or fear. Indeed, the purpose or effect of faith and knowledge is facing both confidently. I repeat - if not confused, we are not paying attention to our choices, dilemmas, paradoxes, and all the normal consternations of the mind as it approaches reality. Only prejudice or great wisdom eliminates confusions. Uncertainty is inherent in the experience of the mortal and ascender's life.
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Me: the task of unifying the material reality and spirit realities - philosophy or harmonization - is the source of confusion for the thoughtful mind. If we do not have confusion and we cannot cope with confusion, then we are not engaged in such work.

Rigidity of concept is the very definition of a mind crippled by prejudice IMO. Certainty of concepts and understanding in a mortal mind is proof enough of self admiration and false confidence and lack of progress potential by the blinding force of self satisfaction. Not confused? Pity.

It might seem apparent you are using or interpreting the word symbol "confusion" as "uncertainty" or a combination of both.
The word symbol "confusion" can have several applications based on its root of "confuse" which can have several applications, where it also can apply to "chaos" versus multiple individual causes and effects.
If by your expression of "confusion" is your association, to "uncertainty" then what you have presented in your own words might be better understood? Therefore, though your wordsmith-ing as presented above, might be considered a method to confuse others, which if not your artful purpose, would seem that your admittance to being confused, as a requirement, would invalidate your narrative, as having been constructed to be confusing, and without meaning? Thereby, I find no real value, from a confused, yet artful mind. However, having uncertainty regarding curtain issues, is a natural state for all beings but One. Giving the free-will to choose from a limited number of choices will always present uncertainty for those who cannot see that they have the power to change or add to those choices, but to assume that no change is either necessary or forthcoming might indicate that the blind are leading the blind.

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