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nodAmanaV wrote:I've posted the following by permission. Although I don't agree with everything stated, what's at the core is resoundingly true.
The DANGERS of the URANTIA BOOK
The Urantia Book (UB) was published in the middle of the 20th Century after having been translated and edited, by God's permission, by fallen Midway Creatures, in order to ensure its publication. For an evil world will not publish a good book. The UB had to be so presented to the world so as to attract the wicked in society, those who reject the truths of the Bible, to publish it, as so by God's will to expose the world to the critical 1st section of the book. The fact that the heads of state, by and large, are veritable rebels against God attests to the truth that this world (earth/"Urantia") is in fact evil, wherein evil is both out of control and in control.
The concepts of the UB are from God and are indeed wholesome and salutary, but the translation and edition do not proceed from Him, but are permitted by Him, or else the UB would NEVER HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED. Convoluted, abstract, and philosophical language never proceeds from God. God is simple and forthright. God allowed evil Midwayers to edit out of the UB all references pertaining to the consequences of wilful evil in the afterworld. And as they consider Islam to be their pet religion, they carefully removed all references denigrating Islam. The UB does not consequently, in its present edition, have the power of grace to transform lives into righteousness as the Bible in fact does.
The ensuing result is that Urantia Book readers (UBers) are, for the most part (in the event of those who virulently reject the Bible), quick and ready to identify themselves with the most wicked elements in society - - violent crime, perversion, Islam, rebellion, wilful ignorance, and strenuous opposition to justice and righteousness. These UBers are characterized by the following: the inability to reason, lack of common sense, the inclination to exercise cruel and unjust tyranny over those who seek after justice and righteousness; and they readily flee from anything which they are incapable of refuting.
Therefore I say that the Urantia Book is only meant and intended by God for the benefit of those who have MASTERED and fully benefited from the Bible. Those who profess the Bible to be 100% infallible true and accurate profess thereby that they do not really KNOW the Bible. Therefore they are exceedingly few who have truly mastered the book and consequently come to admit that this book has its serious problems, as the Ancient Fathers likewise admitted. God graced the world with the Bible for very many centuries as this is the Introductory Book to the ways of salvation. And the Urantia Book is a book of ADVANCED revelation to supplement the Bible wherein it lacks. Just as men were incapable of receiving ALL truth in past times, so are they today. Both the Bible and the Urantia Book are, by the will of God, flawed books, because men cannot handle ALL truth. Those who rashly reject the salutary truths of the Bible will not receive from God the grace to understand the Urantia Book correctly. Therefore, unless you are confirmed by the sealing of the Holy Spirit and are transformed in Jesus Christ, I would caution you to regard the Urantia Book as a dangerous book, one which will not lead and guide you to the everlasting presence of God. The UB in several places makes it EXCEEDINLY CLEAR that only those who adopt the perfection of the Universal Father will proceed on to the 2nd Mansion World and then on to Havona. Men of good will can obtain truth only from the Father Within Who alone is infallible, and only those who love righteousness will hear Him.
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Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:06 pm +0000
fanofVan wrote:What a load of BS!!! Just another opinion...and not anonymous either.
The Papers were NOT "translated and edited"..."by fallen midwayers" NOR DID "God allowed evil Midwayers to edit out of the UB". What a crock...even for an extreme anonymous opinion.
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(1555.7) 139:4.14 When in temporary exile on Patmos, John wrote the Book of Revelation, which you now have in greatly abridged and distorted form. This Book of Revelation contains the surviving fragments of a great revelation, large portions of which were lost, other portions of which were removed, subsequent to John’s writing. It is preserved in only fragmentary and adulterated form.
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nodAmanaV wrote:At this point I would like to thank Larry for not booting me. That's not to say he won't change his mind, but I sincerely hope not. If I had checked the forum rules instead of being unmindful of them, I would not have initiated this topic. I enjoy this place very much. Again, thank you Larry for your understanding.
The reason I thought it would be good to post what my cousin Ray has posted elsewhere (thanks Agon) is exactly what Brad has done with his posts. Like you said Brad, perhaps the topic should be discussed even more.
I think a more careful reread of what Ray has said is necessary to notice two things:
His comments about UBers are directed toward those who dismiss the truths of the Bible. I don't believe that you can truthfully accept the Urantia Book and dismiss the Bible.
The other thing is that he fully supports the Urantia Book. Like he said, "The concepts of the UB are from God and are indeed wholesome and salutary". Now please consider this. Ray is relatively new to the Urantia Book, just a couple of years. But he's been studying the Bible for about 45 years, like I'm certain few have. Coming from a man of unquestionably sincere devotion to the Truth (he's my cousin and I know him well), his comments are particularly relevant. It is evident however, that he's not yet completely familiar with the text of the Urantia Book. Certain exact details haven't sunk in yet completely. But who hasn't had to deal with that? Thanks Brad for clarifying what the Urantia Book says about the Midwayers and the difference between evil and sin.
Soon more and more Christians will be discovering the Urantia Book. It behooves us all to be better equipped to share the more advanced truths of the Urantia Book with them.