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I don't mean to be contrary, but I don't see how studying the life of Jesus and ways to progress spiritually supply any answers to quil's questions. But since he has abandoned the thread, I guess it doesn't matter, so I'll contribute to the tangent.

Nod wrote, "Jesus' life is the 'way'". I'd like to qualify that statement. The life that Jesus lived over 2000 years ago is not the Way. Jesus himself is the Way, and to our great luck, he is still alive, right now. We have access to Jesus as the Spirit of Truth; we can exchange our mind for his anytime we like. This is a soul-level phenomenon, a living truth phenomenon. We can study the life of Jesus from 2000 years ago, and certainly that has its benefits; but, I think it is better to have a relationship with Jesus himself right now, as the Spirit of Truth.

Now, this has nothing at all to do with the relativity of revelation, (which is what the quote starting this thread is about), unless you realize that truth is always a revelation, and when it is individualized, it is also relative.

Truth is always a revelation: autorevelation when it emerges as a result of the work of the indwelling Adjuster; epochal revelation when it is presented by the function of some other celestial agency, group, or personality. 101:4:3

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What might you add from your studies of the UB that have helped you discern, discover, embrace, and progress in truth, beauty, and goodness??


Don't you think this is covered quite well in Paper 100? The author describes certain religious habits of thinking that predispose one toward developing a conditioned spiritual reflex. (Note, it's about thinking, which leads to doing.) I have found these habits to be quite useful.

Religious habits of thinking and acting are contributory to the economy of spiritual growth. One can develop religious predispositions toward favorable reaction to spiritual stimuli, a sort of conditioned spiritual reflex. Habits which favor religious growth embrace cultivated sensitivity to divine values, recognition of religious living in others, reflective meditation on cosmic meanings, worshipful problem solving, sharing one's spiritual life with one's fellows, avoidance of selfishness, refusal to presume on divine mercy, living as in the presence of God. The factors of religious growth may be intentional, but the growth itself is unvaryingly unconscious. 100:1:8

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My favorite Paper and section...first one I ever read and have read hundreds of times. Indeed, a blue print for the how to and why for!!

100:2.1 (1095.5) Spiritual development depends, first, on the maintenance of a living spiritual connection with true spiritual forces and, second, on the continuous bearing of spiritual fruit: yielding the ministry to one’s fellows of that which has been received from one’s spiritual benefactors. Spiritual progress is predicated on intellectual recognition of spiritual poverty coupled with the self-consciousness of perfection-hunger, the desire to know God and be like him, the wholehearted purpose to do the will of the Father in heaven.

100:2.2 (1095.6) Spiritual growth is first an awakening to needs, next a discernment of meanings, and then a discovery of values. The evidence of true spiritual development consists in the exhibition of a human personality motivated by love, activated by unselfish ministry, and dominated by the wholehearted worship of the perfection ideals of divinity. And this entire experience constitutes the reality of religion as contrasted with mere theological beliefs.

100:2.4 (1096.1) Spirituality becomes at once the indicator of one’s nearness to God and the measure of one’s usefulness to fellow beings. Spirituality enhances the ability to discover beauty in things, recognize truth in meanings, and discover goodness in values. Spiritual development is determined by capacity therefor and is directly proportional to the elimination of the selfish qualities of love.

100:2.5 (1096.2) Actual spiritual status is the measure of Deity attainment, Adjuster attunement. The achievement of finality of spirituality is equivalent to the attainment of the maximum of reality, the maximum of Godlikeness. Eternal life is the endless quest for infinite values.

100:2.6 (1096.3) The goal of human self-realization should be spiritual, not material. The only realities worth striving for are divine, spiritual, and eternal. Mortal man is entitled to the enjoyment of physical pleasures and to the satisfaction of human affections; he is benefited by loyalty to human associations and temporal institutions; but these are not the eternal foundations upon which to build the immortal personality which must transcend space, vanquish time, and achieve the eternal destiny of divine perfection and finaliter service.

100:2.7 (1096.4) Jesus portrayed the profound surety of the God-knowing mortal when he said: “To a God-knowing kingdom believer, what does it matter if all things earthly crash?” Temporal securities are vulnerable, but spiritual sureties are impregnable. When the flood tides of human adversity, selfishness, cruelty, hate, malice, and jealousy beat about the mortal soul, you may rest in the assurance that there is one inner bastion, the citadel of the spirit, which is absolutely unassailable; at least this is true of every human being who has dedicated the keeping of his soul to the indwelling spirit of the eternal God.

8) Behold the Pilgrim's Path and the tadpole's Glory Road. All who WILL may enter upon the WAY.....home.


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''You may not aspire to live his life, but you can resolve to live your lives even as, and by the same means that, he lived his. Jesus may not be the technical and detailed example for all the mortals of all ages on all the realms of this local universe, but he is everlastingly the inspiration and guide of all Paradise pilgrims from the worlds of initial ascension up through a universe of universes and on through Havona to Paradise. Jesus is the new and living way from man to God, from the partial to the perfect, from the earthly to the heavenly, from time to eternity.''

129:4.7 (1425.6) And this was his true and supreme purpose. He did not come down to live on Urantia as the perfect and detailed example for any child or adult, any man or woman, in that age or any other. True it is, indeed, that in his full, rich, beautiful, and noble life we may all find much that is exquisitely exemplary, divinely inspiring, but this is because he lived a true and genuinely human life. Jesus did not live his life on earth in order to set an example for all other human beings to copy. He lived this life in the flesh by the same mercy ministry that you all may live your lives on earth; and as he lived his mortal life in his day and as he was, so did he thereby set the example for all of us thus to live our lives in our day and as we are. You may not aspire to live his life, but you can resolve to live your lives even as, and by the same means that, he lived his. Jesus may not be the technical and detailed example for all the mortals of all ages on all the realms of this local universe, but he is everlastingly the inspiration and guide of all Paradise pilgrims from the worlds of initial ascension up through a universe of universes and on through Havona to Paradise. Jesus is the new and living way from man to God, from the partial to the perfect, from the earthly to the heavenly, from time to eternity.


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What are these "same means" that he lived his life?


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Thanks coop!! I was looking but couldn't find those...well done! :idea: :biggrin:



34:7.6 (382.6) Notwithstanding this double disaster to man’s nature and his environment, present-day mortals would experience less of this apparent warfare between the flesh and the spirit if they would enter the spirit kingdom, wherein the faith sons of God enjoy comparative deliverance from the slave-bondage of the flesh in the enlightened and liberating service of wholehearted devotion to doing the will of the Father in heaven. Jesus showed mankind the new way of mortal living whereby human beings may very largely escape the dire consequences of the Caligastic rebellion and most effectively compensate for the deprivations resulting from the Adamic default. “The spirit of the life of Christ Jesus has made us free from the law of animal living and the temptations of evil and sin.” “This is the victory that overcomes the flesh, even your faith.”

34:7.7 (383.1) Those God-knowing men and women who have been born of the Spirit experience no more conflict with their mortal natures than do the inhabitants of the most normal of worlds, planets which have never been tainted with sin nor touched by rebellion. Faith sons work on intellectual levels and live on spiritual planes far above the conflicts produced by unrestrained or unnatural physical desires. The normal urges of animal beings and the natural appetites and impulses of the physical nature are not in conflict with even the highest spiritual attainment except in the minds of ignorant, mistaught, or unfortunately overconscientious persons.

34:7.8 (383.2) Having started out on the way of life everlasting, having accepted the assignment and received your orders to advance, do not fear the dangers of human forgetfulness and mortal inconstancy, do not be troubled with doubts of failure or by perplexing confusion, do not falter and question your status and standing, for in every dark hour, at every crossroad in the forward struggle, the Spirit of Truth will always speak, saying, “This is the way.”

196:0.1 (2087.1) JESUS enjoyed a sublime and wholehearted faith in God. He experienced the ordinary ups and downs of mortal existence, but he never religiously doubted the certainty of God’s watchcare and guidance. His faith was the outgrowth of the insight born of the activity of the divine presence, his indwelling Adjuster. His faith was neither traditional nor merely intellectual; it was wholly personal and purely spiritual.

196:0.8 (2088.3) The faith of Jesus visualized all spirit values as being found in the kingdom of God; therefore he said, “Seek first the kingdom of heaven.” Jesus saw in the advanced and ideal fellowship of the kingdom the achievement and fulfillment of the “will of God.” The very heart of the prayer which he taught his disciples was, “Your kingdom come; your will be done.” Having thus conceived of the kingdom as comprising the will of God, he devoted himself to the cause of its realization with amazing self-forgetfulness and unbounded enthusiasm. But in all his intense mission and throughout his extraordinary life there never appeared the fury of the fanatic nor the superficial frothiness of the religious egotist.

196:0.9 (2088.4) The Master’s entire life was consistently conditioned by this living faith, this sublime religious experience. This spiritual attitude wholly dominated his thinking and feeling, his believing and praying, his teaching and preaching. This personal faith of a son in the certainty and security of the guidance and protection of the heavenly Father imparted to his unique life a profound endowment of spiritual reality.......

196:0.10 (2088.5) Jesus brought to God, as a man of the realm, the greatest of all offerings: the consecration and dedication of his own will to the majestic service of doing the divine will. Jesus always and consistently interpreted religion wholly in terms of the Father’s will. When you study the career of the Master, as concerns prayer or any other feature of the religious life, look not so much for what he taught as for what he did. Jesus never prayed as a religious duty. To him prayer was a sincere expression of spiritual attitude, a declaration of soul loyalty, a recital of personal devotion, an expression of thanksgiving, an avoidance of emotional tension, a prevention of conflict, an exaltation of intellection, an ennoblement of desire, a vindication of moral decision, an enrichment of thought, an invigoration of higher inclinations, a consecration of impulse, a clarification of viewpoint, a declaration of faith, a transcendental surrender of will, a sublime assertion of confidence, a revelation of courage, the proclamation of discovery, a confession of supreme devotion, the validation of consecration, a technique for the adjustment of difficulties, and the mighty mobilization of the combined soul powers to withstand all human tendencies toward selfishness, evil, and sin. He lived just such a life of prayerful consecration to the doing of his Father’s will and ended his life triumphantly with just such a prayer. The secret of his unparalleled religious life was this consciousness of the presence of God; and he attained it by intelligent prayer and sincere worship — unbroken communion with God — and not by leadings, voices, visions, or extraordinary religious practices.

196:0.12 (2089.2) The faith of Jesus attained the purity of a child’s trust. His faith was so absolute and undoubting that it responded to the charm of the contact of fellow beings and to the wonders of the universe. His sense of dependence on the divine was so complete and so confident that it yielded the joy and the assurance of absolute personal security. There was no hesitating pretense in his religious experience. In this giant intellect of the full-grown man the faith of the child reigned supreme in all matters relating to the religious consciousness. It is not strange that he once said, “Except you become as a little child, you shall not enter the kingdom.” Notwithstanding that Jesus’ faith was childlike, it was in no sense childish.

196:0.14 (2090.1) Jesus’ earthly life was devoted to one great purpose — doing the Father’s will, living the human life religiously and by faith. The faith of Jesus was trusting, like that of a child, but it was wholly free from presumption. He made robust and manly decisions, courageously faced manifold disappointments, resolutely surmounted extraordinary difficulties, and unflinchingly confronted the stern requirements of duty. It required a strong will and an unfailing confidence to believe what Jesus believed and as he believed.

The "means" is responding to the voice within, faith in Father and our family and our place and our destiny as faith-sons, the motive to do God's will, the sincere effort in that intention at every intersection of choice, and a confidence in love and a dedication to our fellows in a friendly universe. The means is faith...the methods are derived from the means and each mind/being/ascender lives a unique expression of such faith, love, and service so each of us takes a different pilgrim's path....but all such paths of faith lead to Paradise...eventually. Or so I understand it.

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Yes, but instead of boiling it down to a generalized "doing of God's will" according to one's sincere "intention", are there actually very specific things, activities or actions we ought to be engaged in like Jesus was? And of course, not in an exact imitation, which is impossible anyway.


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Greetings,

This is not rocket science. The specific things Jesus did was pray, meditate and live as in the presence of God, as if he were "seeing Him who is invisible". (127:3:15)

The authors told us in Paper 100 other things we can do to nurture spiritual growth. Again, they pretty much say the same thing. Pray, pray, pray. Talk to God constantly, without ceasing. Share the inner life with him. And share the outer life too. Share everything with him as though he were right along side you . . . no, actually inside you, looking at the world through your eyes. It's easy shmeezy. Another thing you can do is try the alter-ego approach to prayer. There is a whole section on that in Paper 91. This is all very basic stuff. No detailed study necessary. If you have a soul, you're actually already doing it. You just need to make it a conscious effort.

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120:3.8 (1330.3) “7. While you will live the normal and average social life of the planet, being a normal individual of the male sex, you will probably not enter the marriage relation, which relation would be wholly honorable and consistent with your bestowal; but I must remind you that one of the incarnation mandates of Sonarington forbids the leaving of human offspring behind on any planet by a bestowal Son of Paradise origin.

What is the significance of the fact notwithstanding that the incarnation mandates forbade Jesus from leaving offspring behind on the planet, he experienced fatherhood anyway? Did this privilege befall him only as a consequence of an "accident"? Personally, I don't think so. If this is true, is the parenting experience essential to normal growth as a mortal creature, or if Jesus did not experience raising children could he have achieved what he did without it?

The text infers that if for whatever reason we do not function in the role of a parent (successfully), allowances are provided for correcting this shortcoming on arrival on the mansion worlds. I'm pretty sure the text infers that this is a basic requirement for advancement, but correct me if I'm wrong. It seems to me that a successful experience as a parent is one of the primary things to accomplish in our ascension. This is highly emphasized in the fact that even though Jesus was not allowed to have offspring, he ended up being a father anyway, and without the usual experience of the marriage relation. This cannot be an "accident".

If then it turns out that this is a specific experience we will need to eventually fulfill successfully, either here or over there, are there any other specific experiences we should seek out?


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I think you're just a paradigm shift away from a perspective and philosophical breakthrough nod. It is not "what" we do that truly matters....it is "why" we do what we do and "how" we do it. I believe the Spirit leads us - or can and will if we are open to and led by the Spirit - to those situations and circumstances that will provide us those opportunities to grow and learn and decide and choose that are precisely what is needed next. And the greatest lesson we come to learn is how to respond to what happens, whatever and whenever that may be. There's an old saying - man plans...and the gods laugh.

We have eternity to accomplish and do things...it is the why and how to do things that delivers maturity and wisdom. We are taught that Jesus was tested in all ways and things human....as we are so tested. The more we learn about why and how, the more complex the problems and challenges presented us. We are to learn how to identify with Spirit and reality, and the cause and effect connection, and to gain a perspective of connectivity and community, and to embrace the motivation of love and kindness, and to learn how to be intimate in relationships, and how to perform in teams, and how to face confusion, uncertainty, doubt, disappointment, failure, and triumph! And none of this lessons depends upon any specific form of "what" am I to do now or next or then. Anything and everything we can do we can do better and then better and we can learn the lessons to be gleaned.

We are taught that no matter our circumstances or intelligence or education or wealth or status or location in time and space, we may grow in the Spirit. And that only relationships are ends unto themselves....all other intersections of choice are a means to growth and spiritization. And that all occupations and tasks are worthy if and when we are acting with proper motivation and intent and priority. Motive, intention, priority...that's what needs attention....and not the "what". Or so I have come to find true. The more aligned with reality we become, the less it matters "what" happens. The story of Jesus is best understood by how He responded to every situation, circumstance, and relationship....and how those response led to what happened next....repeat endlessly forever. As to the "what", Jesus taught that variety and a wide spectrum of experiences and skills was superior to any narrow life-set of whats....curiosity, delight, insight, intuition, relationships, and service will guide us into endless "whats"...and they will be different for us each and all.

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That is beautiful Brad, especially on a grand Saturday morning! I will ponder your words today. Just don't be surprised if I come up with some more annoying questions or comments. :D

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140:5.1 (1573.3) From the Sermon on the Mount to the discourse of the Last Supper, Jesus taught his followers to manifest fatherly love rather than brotherly love. Brotherly love would love your neighbor as you love yourself, and that would be adequate fulfillment of the “golden rule.” But fatherly affection would require that you should love your fellow mortals as Jesus loves you.


Isn't this the key to all attitudes and approaches to situations and circumstances involving our experiences with others?


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Greetings,

That's exactly right fanofVan. I read nod's post last night and thought, oh boy, how do I explain this one? You did a fine job.

I think it's a huge mistake to make a checklist of things that must be experienced in order to live a spiritual life. That would be counter to the Adjuster's plan for us. Let him make the checklist.

Also, such a checklist would turn life into an organized religion. Creating rules for living that must be accomplished should not be encouraged. It's dangerous stuff.

But in reality, I think all of life is an important education. We are told that the experience of living is most important. It's not what we do so much as the way in which we live our lives, our attitudes toward living.

It is not so much what you learn in this first life; it is the experience of living this life that is important. Even the work of this world, paramount though it is, is not nearly so important as the way in which you do this work. 39:4:13

I think the most important thing we can learn is the ability to become intimate, first with God and then with others. Intimate relationships are valuable, both human and divine. The greatest work we have in this life is learning how to get the self out of the way and to grow in the ability to feel the presence of God.

It is not so important that you should know about the fact of God as that you should increasingly grow in the ability to feel the presence of God. 155:6:12

And getting the self out of the way is also the technique of adjusting the self to other selves in the spirit of service, which results in the brotherhood of man.

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Thank you Rexford

Yes, you and Brad have touched on the very thing that I have always known is the most important thing. It's the "how" and not the "what". My emphasis is to put the "how" on a fatherly basis.

196:3.35 (2097.3) When all is said and done, the Father idea is still the highest human concept of God.


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Hey there nod. Funny that you should be asking this question while I was typing my last post, ending in the brotherhood of man.

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Isn't this the key to all attitudes and approaches to situations and circumstances involving our experiences with others?


In answer to this question, I think it is important to realize that the golden rule is a continuum. It is difficult to jump from level 1 of the golden rule to level 6 without spiritual growth. It is not possible to love others with a fatherly love without having experienced love from the Father as part of an intimate soul relationship, and this requires spiritual, or soul growth.

If you identify with your soul and your soul is an intimate relationship between your true self and God the Father, then it is the experience of that relationship which enables you to view others with fatherly affection. It has to come from God the Father, the source.

Just to be complete, I included the 6 levels of the golden rule below for convenience.

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Let me now teach you concerning the differing levels of meaning attached to the interpretation of this rule of living, this admonition to `do to others that which you desire others to do to you':
"1. The level of the flesh. Such a purely selfish and lustful interpretation would be well exemplified by the supposition of your question.
"2. The level of the feelings. This plane is one level higher than that of the flesh and implies that sympathy and pity would enhance one's interpretation of this rule of living.
"3. The level of mind. Now come into action the reason of mind and the intelligence of experience. Good judgment dictates that such a rule of living should be interpreted in consonance with the highest idealism embodied in the nobility of profound self-respect.
"4. The level of brotherly love. Still higher is discovered the level of unselfish devotion to the welfare of one's fellows. On this higher plane of wholehearted social service growing out of the consciousness of the fatherhood of God and the consequent recognition of the brotherhood of man, there is discovered a new and far more beautiful interpretation of this basic rule of life.
"5. The moral level. And then when you attain true philosophic levels of interpretation, when you have real insight into the rightness and wrongness of things, when you perceive the eternal fitness of human relationships, you will begin to view such a problem of interpretation as you would imagine a high-minded, idealistic, wise, and impartial third person would so view and interpret such an injunction as applied to your personal problems of adjustment to your life situations.
"6. The spiritual level. And then last, but greatest of all, we attain the level of spirit insight and spiritual interpretation which impels us to recognize in this rule of life the divine command to treat all men as we conceive God would treat them. That is the universe ideal of human relationships. And this is your attitude toward all such problems when your supreme desire is ever to do the Father's will. I would, therefore, that you should do to all men that which you know I would do to them in like circumstances."147:4:3


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