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Scientists once thought that the rise of agriculture is what lead to the formation of religion. Now scientists are scientists are realizing, due to the discovery of Gobekli Tepe, that the formation of religion is what led to the rise of agriculture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göbekli_Tepe

This reminds me of what the Urantia Book teaches about the time of the Planetary Prince.

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Heres several Truthbook posts Discussions about Gobekli Tepe


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Heres Ubthenews.com Report On Gobekli_Tepe

http://ubthenews.com/topics/Gobekli_Tepe.htm


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more reading from my bookmarks for those interested...mostly english articles by the site archeologist K. Schmidt:

Snakes, Lions and Other Animals: The Urfa-Project 1997

Beyond Daily Bread: Evidence of Early Neolithic Ritual from Gobekli Tepe

Two Radiocarbon Dates from Gobekli Tepe

Boars, Ducks, and Foxes - the Urfa-Project 99

Gobekli Tepe and the Early Neolithic Sites of the Urfa Region: a Synopsis of New Results and Current Views

14 C Dating of Pedogenic Carbonate Coatings on Wall Stones at Gobekli Tepe and The 2002 Excavations at Gobekli Tepe - Impressions from an Enigmatic Site

The 2003 Campaign at Göbekli Tepe and A Preliminary Report on the Botanical Remains from Early Neolithic Göbekli Tepe

“Ritual Centers” and the Neolithisation of Upper Mesopotamia

The Göbekli Tepe “Totem Pole“. A First Discussion of an Autumn 2010 Discovery

Animals and a Headless Man at Göbekli Tepe

Göbekli Tepe – Enclosure C

Göbekli Tepe – the Stone Age Sanctuaries.New results of ongoing excavations with a special focus on sculptures and high reliefs

Animals in the symbolic world of Pre-Pottery Neolithic Göbekli Tepe

Góbekli Tepe,A Preliminary Report on the 1995-1999 Excavations

google translation of The Urfa Project at the German Archeological Institute

the good news is excavation has resumed after the moslims decided that it's not the garden of eden and therefor not a protected site...bad news is schmidt is in trouble with the turkish government again...i almost wish they'd toss him out and take over the site and dig faster lol


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Klaus Schmidt has died of a heart attack while swimming...despite my issues with his digging schedule and methods I have to give thanks and kudos to Dr. Schmidt for all that he has done and for recognizing the importance of the site after other archeologists had dismissed it years earlier as being nothing of importance.

no word yet on who will take over as head of the dig.


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for those interested...they've finished building the roof over the site and excavation continues and there's some field notes and short contributions by some of the research staff here:

The Tepe Telegrams


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kinda interesting free chapter from a new book:

Religion, History, and Place in the Origin of Settled Life

few relevant points made:

notes that the evidence of long occupation at the sites is often ignored

sites show a "conflict" between individuality and community with individuality winning out

communal sites like gobekli are remote or outlying, rather than central, and lack the size to accomodate the entire community for important rituals...also show signs of "insiders and outsiders". one author postulates those "communal temples" were exclusive secret societies...but that evidence also fits if they were schools for teaching the "arts of civilization" like i suspect


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probably andites, shortly after the floods...

Mysterious 6,500-year-old Culture in Israel Was Brought by Migrants, Researchers Say


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new national geographic video:

Riddle of the Stone Age Giants

i think a VPN as a US viewer will work here:

Riddle of the Stone Age Giants

offers some new perspectives but makes some broad assumptions knowing they've only excavated 4 out of 20ish enclosures. couple of points i have to make... it's doubtful that fermentation wasn't noticed in old food or on the vine till so late in history and even then you don't need to gather a huge group to produce it....orion isn't visible all year, doesn't rise in the same location when it is visible and natgeo should recognize pseudoscience...and if gobekli was a school that taught, among other things, how to capture wild animals and breed and domesticate them it would yield the bones of wild animals yet would still be a post-hunter/gatherer built site.

i enjoyed it anyway...


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