I personally believe that Dr. Sadler encountered a man who spoke spiritual truths in his sleep. The sleeping subject's own personal views, imperfections and limitations may have influenced what was dictated.

I think you should do a little more study and thinking on this. If God wanted us to have this knowledge revealed to us, he would definitely have chosen an infallible method. And that was what happened. So far there is nothing that I have come across to think the way you believe now.

"I'll tell you how I think this paper was written. And my theory is not one-hundred percent correct. But its the best I can find. Visualize several places in space -- points A, B, C and D. I think the papers were dictated or conceived at point A and had we been there when any of these papers was written we would have seen nothing. A Divine Counselor is presenting his concepts in the language of Uversa*. A translator is there who translates it into the language of Salvington*. There is another translator there who translates from the language of Salvington* to the language of Satania* and another translator who translates from Satania* into English. You cannot translate from Uversa* into English because the languages are too far apart.

"I suspect that 99% of the original concept was lost in translation -- English is too primitive a language. Take Bantu where they have one, two and then "many" -- the end of their numbers -- and you want to translate into large number systems, you simply can't do it. See the problem?

My main problem with the Urantia Book is that I wish there were an easier to read version. There would be a lot more readers of the Urantia Book if there were a version in simplified, contemporary English. This has been done for the Bible with the New Living Translation without compromising the essential meaning of the text.

Many of us who are readers of the Urantia Book are convinced about the super human authorship of the FER.
What are your personal points of conviction in favour of this?
Does this re-affirmation make any difference to us ?

But please don't ask me what those experiences were as I understand discussing such things is against the rules of this forum

My main problem with the Urantia Book is that I wish there were an easier to read version. There would be a lot more readers of the Urantia Book if there were a version in simplified, contemporary English. This has been done for the Bible with the New Living Translation without compromising the essential meaning of the text.

Yea I could see Big C contacting someone in the forum, but you would think that the people in the forum would only trust the "sleeping subject".

For such a composition (beyond the imagination of man), to formulate into an (intended book), they had to work together (as a ministry) to be consistent through the whole compilation.

They knew what they were about.

And they knew (no matter how long it would take) what the potential it would have on mankind,
what the impact it would have on all of us readers.

In the ages to come, I believe, it will have established a foundation of congruent teaching that transforms the reader.

(As it has on myself).

But, we should not try to establish a specific religion from it.

Religion is personal and individual. (That is way I steer away from institutional religion and sects).

If the reader believes that TUB is authored by other than man then they have a "cosmic" revelation that they can share with all others in the universe(s).

So, we came from a world effected by rebellion (and default), but that gives us more of a chance to be intrusted with responsibilities early.

We, as readers, look forward to be Finaliters. That was never written in the "Bible".

The revelation will stand on it's own, for ages to come.

Put it through the test. Does it ring TRUE to you?

The members of the Forum had no contact with the Sleeping Subject, only the Contact Commissioners (Dr. Sadler, Bill Sadler, Lena Sadler, Emma "Christy" Christensen, and Wilfrid Kellogg) did. Unfortunately, there's a lot of secrecy about this, but there's evidence that Christy did, at some point, claim to be getting messages from celestials, and that she was believed by the others. That's remarkable in itself. The larger question is whether this resulted in corruption in the UB text.

Of course, even if it did, it wouldn't affect the point about superhuman authorship, since Caligastia and his team are also superhumans.