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50.7.2 On Jerusem the ascenders from these isolated worlds occupy a residential sector by themselves and are known as the agondonters, meaning evolutionary will creatures who can believe without seeing, persevere when isolated, and triumph over insuperable difficulties even when alone. This functional grouping of the agondonters persists throughout the ascension of the local universe and the traversal of the superuniverse; it disappears during the sojourn in Havona but promptly reappears upon the attainment of Paradise and definitely persists in the Corps of the Mortal Finality. Tabamantia is an agondonter of finaliter status, having survived from one of the quarantined spheres involved in the first rebellion ever to take place in the universes of time and space.

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But there's gonna be a whole lot of us...like here on Urantia!
It would be comforting to be around those that we actually know (even in cyberspace) on the next level.
I figure I'll be in a group of AA...probably pouring coffee. :smile:

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But ....
Yeah, but ....
But what? We have an eternity! I might not meet everybody in my apartment building in the context of one year. I might find my little niche of folks with which I have something in common. But chances are if I lived there all my life, and had to work with my neighbors (even those I didn't like) on some task for the apartment complex, I would eventually get to know them all, even learn to love them.

Part of what we will be doing in our mansion world career is working in and with small groups of individuals from differing backgrounds than ours and you know what that means. If it were to happen today, I imagine it would be something like mixing
1. a televangelist
2. a politician
3. a homosexual
4. a nursing mother
5. a lawyer
6. a channeler
7. a professor
8. a sports fan
9. a teenager and
10. somebody who doesn't speak English
and giving them the task of organizing the community Christmas party.

We will have ten days in the Resurrection Hall to touch base with those who preceeded us.

We're not always going to get our pick of who we get to work with.

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I have to believe that the absolute awe and wonder of where we are, and who is there with us, will help overcome our rashness in reacting. But we will still react since we will begin where we left off.

Wow....
just...wow

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Hi All,

Just wanted to share this passage as well, concerning our traveling through eternity with our mortal buddies:

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25:8.5 If you, as an ascendant mortal, should reach Paradise in the company of the companion or close associate of your earthly career, or if your seraphic guardian of destiny should chance to arrive with you or were waiting for you, then no permanent companion would be assigned you. But if you arrive alone, a companion will certainly welcome you as you awaken on the Isle of Light from the terminal sleep of time. Even if it is known that you will be accompanied by someone of ascendant association, temporary companions will be designated to welcome you to the eternal shores and to escort you to the reservation made ready for the reception of you and your associates. You may be certain of being warmly welcomed when you experience the resurrection into eternity on the everlasting shores of Paradise.


This clearly indicates to me that we just might be in the company of one or more of our mortal associates all the way up to Paradise - or not - but then we get someone to be with us anyway. So, we are never alone.

That section is called The Paradise Companions

http://www.truthbook.com/index.cfm?linkID=1271#U25_8_1

Pretty exciting stuff to think about...


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Hmm...so is the fact that we are never alone suggestive of a concurrent fact of an existing BOM? Need it be any more than a desire for relationship?

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We all have the same God within us - God is love - Divine love must be bestowed, and how else but in relationship???

I love the idea that the eternal life is a CONTINUATION of this life in some important ways, such as the relationships we make here...nice to know - wonderful to know - that those wonderful people are never lost. But once we understand that God indwells us, it all starts to make so much sense. How could eternity be otherwise?

I wish the whole world understood this...


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8:4.2 God is love, the Son is mercy, the Spirit is ministry—the ministry of divine love and endless mercy to all intelligent creation. The Spirit is the personification of the Father's love and the Son's mercy; in him are they eternally united for universal service. The Spirit is love applied to the creature creation, the combined love of the Father and the Son



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Jesus did not share Paul’s pessimistic view of humankind. The Master looked upon men as the sons of God and foresaw a magnificent and eternal future for those who chose survival. He was not a moral skeptic; he viewed man positively, not negatively. He saw most men as weak rather than wicked, more distraught than depraved. But no matter what their status, they were all God’s children and his brethren.


I must look upon those without the "appearence" of morality as potential, therefore, even the most depraved are still children of the great Father... no matter their status. Though I do not have to accept injurious behavior to my life, I still must see the potential that only the angels know for sure are possible in any given personality. I have seen eyes that hold nothing but emptiness, as if the Adjuster is gone, but as the saying goes, "Judge not by appearence, but judge rightly."

As long as there is personality... deranged as they may have become, they are a part and parcel to this unfolding panoply, the evolving Supreme...

As Gerdean rightly commented, I wish to add this perspective:

When involved in others lives in a small way, helping them restore a living situation, I do not have to look back upon them to see if they are well, as a trust exists that they are right where they are supposed to be. To get caught up in the minutia of others lives is a sign that a trust is lacking. Jesus trusted emphatically that those he passed would respond to the goodness of his reality. When they didn't, that was their choice. He respected the sovereign gift of "Free Will." When it comes to giving advice... Fools don't heed it, and wise men don't need it!

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It's all about life and life is GOOD :!:
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FOG-BOM (Fatherhood of God - Brotherhood of man) heard that Vern Grimsly Had that put on his License Plate ... wish i had thought of it first...lol

So... it holds true we can only see our relations, in true healthy term,... if we are seeing them through our love of and with God.

As to Honoring some one by using their name for an award, is in no way giving them saint hood... how silly is that to suggest so.
To give recognition to others in his name, because unlike any one I have yet to see on this or any other chat site, he was consistent in being unconditional... very rear in-deed.
Would be nice to see and honor others whom would step up to the plate with that much kind of heart.

It takes effort. to be kind these days

Any-how; living the consequences of having God in our life is the goal... right?

How we deal; with others and how we respond to the many ways in which others deal with us... that is where the magic is.

Shazam..Bing-poo-bam, wow and Allagazam. we can be and do Gods amazing plain. :)


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Uncle Bill, I hope you will post the piece you wrote about Joer. I've only posted here a few times, but each time I did, Joer was right there with words of comfort and encouragement...the last very shortly before he left us. Yes, we all miss him. (I have many favorite parts of the UB, but "AS JESUS PASSED BY" is my favorite favorite!)


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Thanks for the insight in answering my question Gerdean and Uncle Bill. And I think what Dave said about how we ought to reach out to each other in a real and personal way instead just trying to make our points resonates too.

I see myself possessed by a detached, sometimes even sick, curiosity as opposed to a genuine interest pretty often. What is a good way to improve this? Restrain the curiosity... or redirect it into a more positive and caring outlet?
I raise this question because there is some talk in the UB about redirecting base passions into higher expressions. I've always appreciated this advice because so much moralizing in society's normal discourse tells us merely to restrain or destroy our base impulses. Acknowledging what we've been given and then modifying it in a positive direction. Infusing our animal nature with spirituality, seems a much more appealing proposal. A lot of the anti-virtue bluster in our society seems to be an immature reaction to a totalitarian moralizing.

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I believe there is a movement happening now that is reinforcing the individual experience approach,... which gives way to us all allowing the path of least resistance, because like you said ( in a matter of speak)... if we are at war with our selves we are not treading an easy path.

I have thought for some time that we need "not" eliminate our Egos , so much as help transform it toward the journey we have chosen of higher purposes.

Stop letting it run our reactions and give it permission to join us in a new direction, from survival to living, which is what most of our conflicting emotions and "Id" like responses to life are coming from.


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slyde wrote:
I have an idea! How about conferring a BOM award on a deserving being once a year.
Lets say on Jan 1st for the past year. It could be anyone that each of us think should deserve such an honor. We don't have to have any consensus or a winner just simply cast your vote for who you might think should get the award. Wadda ya think? Just post the name of your choice on Jan 1 somewhere on this forum.

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God is no respecter of persons... neither should we be. To pick someone out of .5 billion people to receive an award is to be a respecter of persons... putting one above another.

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