Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:02 pm +0000
dkr315d wrote:Lucifer?, Why did God allow him here? I want to read about this. If this changed things for us, then there must have been a reason. I want to know what the reason was for allowing this. Where is this in the UB? Yes, I already know, If I would read the book I would know, but quide me to what I am looking for.
Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:15 pm +0000
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Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:35 am +0000
Tasneem wrote:There is nothing wrong with asking for guidance from other people..... If you don't ask you will never know...
I love your questions Debbie....
Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:03 pm +0000
dkr315d wrote:People search out religions for one reason, to secure their place in the afterlife, or next life. Everyone in their mind knows right from wrong. You know when you have done something that is wrong. Why does anyone need religion to tell them right from wrong? I do not want to belong to any faith that tells me the "rules", I already know them. I do not HAVE to believe ANYTHING, all I really have to do is try to live a life that, for the most part, I do not cause pain of any kind to another human being. I'm sure I do from time to time, but I know when I do this and I am sorry for it. I'm not going to progress at a high rate of speed to the next level, I'm just an ordinary person, I'm not perfect.
I have a lot of questions about life, but don't really expect to find the answers. Would be nice if "someone" would land right in my living room and talk to me, but NO. If I created a planet and filled it with people, I would do whatever it took to comunicate with them, If someone really wanted answers, I would give them answers. So I have to take from the silence, that you really don't need an answers. And the people who say they have spoken to midwayer's or whatever, I ask myself, what makes so much more worthy of this then me? I think that the "rules" that certain religions pose to you are bullshit. I may not get an "A" in my life test, but I don't think you need an A to pass, maybe I will just not advace as fast, but that's OK with me. If the next life is as enjoyable as this, I can wait for the one that follows.
Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:07 pm +0000
Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:58 am +0000
maryjo606 wrote:Yes - read all about Lucifer, and the defult of our Adam and Eve. You'll get a real clear understanding of just why things are the way they are here. It is not God's fault, and it is not your fault, and it's not my fault, but it is what it is, and we are still paying the price for others' misdeeds.
We do need answers - at least I do, and that is why The UB has been such a gift to my life. Just understanding WHY things are so hard here helps to make it better...
BUT - there is a silver lining. Did you know that many celestial beings actually ENVY the mortals of Urantia? They envy that we get to forge out our faith in God through experience, because that means that once we get it, it is ours forever. We EARN our faith and we EARN our eternal life as few other planetary mortals do. We are called agondonters:
Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:08 am +0000
Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:35 am +0000
As-Above-So-Below wrote:Rich: Regarding the meaning of Life, not sure we can understand that until we understand death better but, I mainly have been waiting for someone to bring up "(the one two or three brained)" phrase. In my reading of the UB, I took this to memory but, really was not sure of what to make of it until I came across them in two other outside texts. I don’t wish to get into their possible meaning at this time but, I was vary intrigued that I would find these identical phrases in the following:
H.P. BLAVATSKY “THE KEY TO THEOSOPHY” (A simple exposition based on the Wisdom-Religion of All Ages),
Which lead me to look back in my copies of “THE SECRET DOCTRINE” and “ISIS UNVEILED”.
And, an actual physical description along with an analogical usage of these terms in:
G. I. GURDJIEFF “Beelzebub’s Tales to His Grandson” (ALL AND EVERYTHING) First Series.
Very Interesting parallels. Have you read either?
Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:24 pm +0000
130:4.7 Life is an adaptation of the original cosmic causation to the demands and possibilities of universe situations, and it comes into being by the action of the Universal Mind and the activation of the spirit spark of the God who is spirit. The meaning of life is its adaptability; the value of life is its progressability—even to the heights of God-consciousness.
Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:39 pm +0000
Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:01 pm +0000
boomshuka wrote:Regaring the Meaning of Life, how about this little gem?130:4.7 Life is an adaptation of the original cosmic causation to the demands and possibilities of universe situations, and it comes into being by the action of the Universal Mind and the activation of the spirit spark of the God who is spirit. The meaning of life is its adaptability; the value of life is its progressability—even to the heights of God-consciousness.
Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:47 pm +0000
rich.sachs wrote:160:1.5 Animals respond nobly to the urge of life, but only man can attain the art of living, albeit the majority of mankind only experience the animal urge to live. Animals know only this blind and instinctive urge; man is capable of transcending this urge to natural function. Man may elect to live upon the high plane of intelligent art, even that of celestial joy and spiritual ecstasy. Animals make no inquiry into the purposes of life; therefore they never worry, neither do they commit suicide. Suicide among men testifies that such beings have emerged from the purely animal stage of existence, and to the further fact that the exploratory efforts of such human beings have failed to attain the artistic levels of mortal experience. Animals know not the meaning of life; man not only possesses capacity for the recognition of values and the comprehension of meanings, but he also is conscious of the meaning of meanings — he is self-conscious of insight.
it is unfortunate that most people sit around at home and smoke cigarettes and watch televison or only experience the animal urge to live. they may be self-conscious of insight but it's hard to see that.boomshuka wrote:Regaring the Meaning of Life, how about this little gem?130:4.7 Life is an adaptation of the original cosmic causation to the demands and possibilities of universe situations, and it comes into being by the action of the Universal Mind and the activation of the spirit spark of the God who is spirit. The meaning of life is its adaptability; the value of life is its progressability—even to the heights of God-consciousness.
Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:22 pm +0000
Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:37 pm +0000
boomshuka wrote:(193.4) 16:7.5 When man fails to discriminate the ends of his mortal striving, he finds himself functioning on the animal level of existence. He has failed to avail himself of the superior advantages of that material acumen, moral discrimination, and spiritual insight which are an integral part of his cosmic-mind endowment as a personal being.