Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:37 am +0000
It's funny because -- as a truthbook lurker -- I didn't appreciate Fetish when I thought she was male; I thought she was hard-edged and brittle, but recognizing her now as female, I perceive of her as courageous and loyal - enough that she would clarify that the Adjuster lives in the mind, not in the brain; one is part of the spiritual circuits, the other is material.
Just today I was reading about Jesus daring attitude about women. He issued the emancipation proclamation which set free all women for all time; no more was man to look upon woman as his spiritual inferior."
... "And this liberation of women, giving them due recognition, was practiced by the apostles immediately after the Master's departure" (not counting their rudeness to Mary Magdalene) "albeit they fell back to the olden customs in subsequent generations." Where they remain today.
I think over half of our tendency to get uppity with one another is gender based ... based on this very problem. Very very few women rise to the level of esteem that men take for granted,
P.937 - §1 But man did not consciously nor intentionally seize woman's rights and then gradually and grudgingly give them back to her; all this was an unconscious and unplanned episode of social evolution. When the time really came for woman to enjoy added rights, she got them, and all quite regardless of man's conscious attitude. Slowly but surely the mores change so as to provide for those social adjustments which are a part of the persistent evolution of civilization. The advancing mores slowly provided increasingly better treatment for females; those tribes which persisted in cruelty to them did not survive.
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P.939 - §1 Men and women need each other in their morontial and spiritual as well as in their mortal careers. The differences in viewpoint between male and female persist even beyond the first life and throughout the local and superuniverse ascensions. And even in Havona, the pilgrims who were once men and women will still be aiding each other in the Paradise ascent. Never, even in the Corps of the Finality, will the creature metamorphose so far as to obliterate the personality trends that humans call male and female; always will these two basic variations of humankind continue to intrigue, stimulate, encourage, and assist each other; always will they be mutually dependent on co-operation in the solution of perplexing universe problems and in the overcoming of manifold cosmic difficulties. P.939 - §1
The sexes have had great difficulty in understanding each other. Man found it hard to understand woman, regarding her with a strange mixture of ignorant mistrust and fearful fascination, if not with suspicion and contempt. Many tribal and racial traditions relegate trouble to Eve, Pandora, or some other representative of womankind. These narratives were always distorted so as to make it appear that the woman brought evil upon man; and all this indicates the onetime universal distrust of woman. Among the reasons cited in support of a celibate priesthood, the chief was the baseness of woman. The fact that most supposed witches were women did not improve the olden reputation of the sex. P.935 - §4
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She [Mary Magdalene] was set apart for such service, together with Rebecca, at Jotapata about four weeks subsequent to her conversion.
The reserve corps of destiny consists of living men and women who have been admitted to the special service of the superhuman administration of world affairs. This corps is made up of the men and women of each generation who are chosen by the spirit directors of the realm to assist in the conduct of the ministry of mercy and wisdom to the children of time on the evolutionary worlds. It is the general practice in the conduct of the affairs of the ascension plans to begin this liaison utilization of mortal will creatures immediately they are competent and trustworthy to assume such responsibilities. Accordingly, as soon as men and women appear on the stage of temporal action with sufficient mental capacity, adequate moral status, and requisite spirituality, they are quickly assigned to the appropriate celestial group of planetary personalities as human liaisons, mortal assistants. P.1257 - §1
Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:04 pm +0000
constantly slapped back into a corner, to be squelched and snuffed and dissed and all that lousy jazz simply because we are women is (to quote that popular phrase) "a sin against Deity"!!!
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Your confession, JoeR, that you posed as a female on an AOL list and enjoyed the companionship and camaraderie of women for a time
P.1243 - §4 In the ministry of personal guardianship, the assignment of angels as destiny guardians, seraphim always volunteer their services. In the city of this visitation a certain mortal was recently admitted to the reserve corps of destiny, and since all such humans are personally attended by guardian angels, more than one hundred qualified seraphim sought the assignment. The planetary director selected twelve of the more experienced individuals and subsequently appointed the seraphim whom they selected as best adapted to guide this human being through his life journey. That is, they selected a certain pair of equally qualified seraphim; one of this seraphic pair will always be on duty.
P.1243 - §5 Seraphic tasks may be unremitting, but either of the angelic pair can discharge all ministering responsibilities. Like cherubim, seraphim usually serve in pairs, but unlike their less advanced associates, the seraphim sometimes work singly. In practically all their contacts with human beings they can function as individuals. Both angels are required only for communication and service on the higher circuits of the universes.
P.1243 - §6 When a seraphic pair accept guardian assignment, they serve for the remainder of the life of that human being. The complement of being (one of the two angels) becomes the recorder of the undertaking. These complemental seraphim are the recording angels of the mortals of the evolutionary worlds. The records are kept by the pair of cherubim (a cherubim and a sanobim) who are always associated with the seraphic guardians, but these records are always sponsored by one of the seraphim.
P.1244 - §1 For purposes of rest and recharging with the life energy of the universe circuits, the guardian is periodically relieved by her complement, and during her absence the associated cherubim functions as the recorder, as is also the case when the complemental seraphim is similarly absent.
So we see that the Guardian of the surviving record and eternal existence of our being is a feminine celestial entity - our seraphic guardians. Imagine how they feel when they witness how we treat their sister existences in this life....Women.
3. RELATION TO OTHER SPIRIT INFLUENCES - P.1244
P.1244 - §2 One of the most important things a destiny guardian does for her mortal subject is to effect a personal co-ordination of the numerous impersonal spirit influences which indwell, surround, and impinge upon the mind and soul of the evolving material creature. Human beings are personalities, and it is exceedingly difficult for nonpersonal spirits and prepersonal entities to make direct contact with such highly material and discretely personal minds. In the ministry of the guarding angel all of these influences are more or less unified and made more nearly appreciable by the expanding moral nature of the evolving human personality.
Notice again that it is this feminine influence on us that is unifying our existence. How much more effective could we make HER work on us if we paid more attention to what our female co-ordinate pair, women, tries to share with us about their perspective on this world?
P.1244 - §3 More especially can and does this seraphic guardian correlate the manifold agencies and influences of the Infinite Spirit, ranging from the domains of the physical controllers and the adjutant mind-spirits up to the Holy Spirit of the Divine Minister and to the Omnipresent Spirit presence of the Paradise Third Source and Center. Having thus unified and made more personal these vast ministries of the Infinite Spirit, the seraphim then undertakes to correlate this integrated influence of the Conjoint Actor with the spirit presences of the Father and the Son.
Notice here that is this unification of our being including our connection to Our Father and brother SON is fostered and integrated by Our HOLY MOTHER SPIRIT the THIRD SOURCE AND CENTER of our God.
The feminine Binds us integrates us and holds us together. We are fractured and incomplete until we accept and willing allow our Feminine being to make us more profoundly connected to God. I'll tell I believe our women hold the secret to our more profound experience with the God that exists within and through us. Let's honor our female deity. Our female Source of Being, Our Third Source and Center. And the physical expression of this source and center on earth - our women.
P.1245 - §0 ...Throughout the entire realm of progressive survival in and through the Supreme Being, seraphim (a feminine aspect of God) are an essential part of continuing mortal progression.
Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:57 pm +0000
To do that, I quit my very good job and sold my wonderful home and sojourned back to my home town where she lived, and where I would be able to effect the healing necessary [ -- so you can see that I took this step very seriously, as I take all aspects of my spiritual life. As we say in AA, "The spiritual life is not a theory; we have to live it."]8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
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"Woman was created from a rib, from the most crooked part in the upper rib cage, and you will never find any means to straighten her... If your try to straighten her, she will break. If you leave her, she remains crooked. You can benefit from her in spite of her crookedness.. So treat women well...."
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I think perhaps we are looking at a matter of semantics. The seraphic pair (male and female, recessive and assertive) are denominated female only as a matter of form. The big guys (Universal Father, Eternal Son, Infinite Spirit) are ALL depicted as male. The seraphim are ALL depicted as female. That doesn't mean angels are females. Or that Gods are males. It means that the revelators opted to transcend the entire matter of gender by adopting the Oxford style of pronoun usage.
Notice here there is this unification of our being including our connection to Our Father and brother SON is fostered and integrated by Our HOLY MOTHER SPIRIT the THIRD SOURCE AND CENTER of our God. The Feminine Binds us, integrates us and holds us together.
Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:21 pm +0000
... The entire section [Pg 368 #3 The Universe Son and Spirit] is critical to our discussion. It sets sets forth the ideal pattern for men and women and also reminds me of the movie with Mel Gibson entitled "What Women Want."It is through this localization and personalization of the Third Source and Center in our local universe that the Spirit could subsequently become so fully subject to the Creator Son that of this Son it was truly said, "All power in heaven and on earth has been intrusted to him."
The Son functions as a father in his local universe. The Spirit, as mortal creatures would understand, enacts the role of a mother, always assisting the Son and being everlastingly indispensable to the administration of the universe. In the face of insurrection only the Son and his associated Sons can function as deliverers. Never can the Spirit undertake to contest rebellion or defend authority, but ever does the Spirit sustain the Son in all of everything he may be required to experience in his efforts to stabilize government and uphold authority on worlds tainted with evil or dominated by sin. Only a Son can retrieve the work of their joint creation, but no Son could hope for final success without the incessant co-operation of the Divine Minister and her vast assemblage of spirit helpers, the daughters of God, who so faithfully and valiantly struggle for the welfare of mortal men and the glory of their divine parents.
Upon the completion of the Creator Son's seventh and final creature bestowal, the uncertainties of periodic isolation terminate for the Divine Minister, and the Son's universe helper becomes forever settled in surety and control. It is at the enthronement of the Creator Son as a Master Son, at the jubilee of jubilees, that the Universe Spirit, before the assembled hosts, first makes public and universal acknowledgment of subordination to the Son, pledging fidelity and obedience. This event occurred in Nebadon at the time of Michael's return to Salvington after the Urantian bestowal. Never before this momentous occasion did the Universe Spirit acknowledge subordination to the Universe Son, and not until after this voluntary relinquishment of power and authority by the Spirit could it be truthfully proclaimed of the Son that "all power in heaven and on earth has been committed to his hand."
After this pledge of subordination by the Creative Mother Spirit, Michael of Nebadon nobly acknowledged his eternal dependence on his Spirit companion, constituting the Spirit coruler of his universe domains and requiring all their creatures to pledge themselves in loyalty to the Spirit as they had to the Son; and there issued and went forth the final "Proclamation of Equality." Though he was the sovereign of this local universe, the Son published to the worlds the fact of the Spirit's equality with him in all endowments of personality and attributes of divine character. And this becomes the transcendent pattern for the family organization and government of even the lowly creatures of the worlds of space. This is, in deed and in truth, the high ideal of the family and the human institution of voluntary marriage. (P.368 - §4 through P.369 - §1)