I agree with your understanding. I thinks that's it exactly. "cease to exist"
And by Christ's teaching of mercy
to our fellow beings we can pray for Lucifer to recognize his error and repent, and return to God. Even while we wait to see what "God's justice"
I found an interesting post on the cease to exist understanding
Our brother Topaz understood this "cease to exist"
concept from the Bible in the discussion on weather Hell is eternal or not.
Is hell eternal or not?
No, it is not eternal.
From Rev 20:15 which is the last verse, it says that all those whose names are not written in the book of life was cast into hell. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
After this, we see another scenario : a new heaven + a new earth + ALL THINGS NEW. This means ugly hell is no more. Ugliness, suffering, does not exist anymore in God’s creation
b/c He creates ALL THINGS NEW.
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Hell itself will be completely destroyed and the souls therein are no more in existence … anywhere
. According to scripture, this is not a situation God wants us to be in. He wants us with Him in heaven to enjoy all He has to offer.
Peace be with you Radikus and all on this thread.
I have this nagging question though and will have to look at the later papers on this threads topic. Is my suspicion that Lucifer and associates were given our world as their playground of sorts? Some of the possible implications are a little astounding. How exactly is Lucifer "playing God" in our world?
I don't think it was so much Lucifer was given his area of stewardship. He was just overseeing it as we oversee our Earth. And it was by his "Free Will" that he choose to do what he did with it. Just like it's by our free will that we do what we do with Earth.
He lead us into the ways of error. But now Jesus, among many other celestial creations of God, has taught us that we are free to choose "right" again
. And He clarified God's Will to us. Yet after 2000 years we are just beginning to understand what he showed us. I know TUB sure help me figure it out a lot. Now all we have to do is show the light to others
"Ceasing to exist"
adjudicated by a merciful and loving God, is slowing replacing "eternal Hell and torment"
by a vengeful and wrathful God.
Jesus' teaching of loving one another, worshiping God and doing God's Will as a soul survival teaching in the backdrop of a loving God is replacing
the BLOOD Atonement Doctrine of a Blood Sacrifice of God's only son as our souls salvation to placate and stop a wrathful God from destroying and condemning us all.
So IMHO No, Lucifer wasn't given this world as a playpen
for his expressions of evil, sin, and wrong doing anymore than we were given this world for our Evil and Sin and Wrongdoing. Lucifer choose to do that through Free Will just like we do. But we are changing. We just had a resounding "NO!" to war in this last election. Slowly we try to achieve our rightful peaceful status and continued progression to Light and Life
God Bless and be with you Williamstade. Peace be you.
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