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 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Fundamentalism in the Urantia movement?

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:50 am +0000 

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As Fanofvan wrote and quoted above, revelation is only as valid as the minds of those in the time they live are able to comprehend the truth being given to them. And what is offer by Celestial's is that which they perceive we can understand to some limiting degrees. I have known for some time that R...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Fundamentalism in the Urantia movement?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:19 pm +0000 

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Hi Bart, you have given me my first red-flag Either the book is what it claims to be (revelation) or it is not. Just like Christians saying either the Bible is all true or the whole thing is not. They say you can't pick and choose which parts you want to believe and through away the rest. Please! ou...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Fundamentalism in the Urantia movement?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:32 am +0000 

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I have been reading the U.B. sense 1986, and i admit much of the book is a challenge, when i found out about the Saddler papers they became a great resource for me to see a possible and clearer interpretation of the U.B. writings. And in all my reading and personal growth with the book, i have never...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Relativity and TUB

 Post subject: Re: Relativity and TUB
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:22 am +0000 

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I admit most all of this is over my head and if some one has already brought this up forgive me, there is just to much to read to catch up on this post. But does not the U.B. talking about the existence and need for the Dark spheres with their extreme gravity's, help us understand these questions? I...

 Forum: Questions & Answers   Topic: The Urantia Book and the Big Bang

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:13 am +0000 

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I an not sure if it is available any more, but many years ago there was a Science Symposium of the Urantia book in which a Professor did a great lecture on " The Big Band did not happen" and he explained very clearly all the science facts and fictions that kept the argument going. was very...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Defaulting

 Post subject: Re: Defaulting
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:10 am +0000 

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It is a big leap to assume that just because they transgressed the law of non-interference that they were becoming rebellionist as well as Caligastia. Adam and Eves intentions where to do Gods will, not rebel from it. They simply began to suffer a lack of patients after hundreds of years working wit...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Why Do the UB Truths Appear As Falsehoods to Most Humans ?

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:30 am +0000 

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I have been hanging out in some Philosophy chat rooms lately filled with Atheist whom are very intelligent and full of Rational, logic reasoning to the issue of any God concept being a illness on humanity. and in our society... that line of thinking is growing. So it is not the U.B., it is all faith...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: What gives salvation? Faith/Actions/Beliefs?

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:37 am +0000 

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Well than if that is the case i have mus-understood you . my bad. The book has a couple of paragraphs that talk about the need to have a healthy brain, for me it is clear that organic brain disorders are not the persons fault and could prevent them from having T.A.'s Now i know from what the U.B. te...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: What gives salvation? Faith/Actions/Beliefs?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:31 pm +0000 

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Hay "K" and Boom I want to start off by delving into point of view here. Chris H. has brought to the U.B. community a scientific mined discipline as a result of his background and work, he has help many develop some good comprehensional theory's to many of the U.B.'s lofty writings. But at...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: What gives salvation? Faith/Actions/Beliefs?

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:05 pm +0000 

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From what i have read in the U.B. book a true psychopath one of organic origins will never be able to have a T.A. and thus not be a sinner. They have on survival capacity.

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: What gives salvation? Faith/Actions/Beliefs?

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:28 am +0000 

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Boom: i know the U.B. does not agree with the concept of original sin, i was being sarcastic because it sounded like that was what your interpretation was. when you read the first half or the U.B. it give a clear path of the Human journey from life to death to Morantail form to mansion worlds and ev...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: What gives salvation? Faith/Actions/Beliefs?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:45 pm +0000 

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Well Bart i guess your right, i made the mistake of assuming certain concepts where obvious, so debating or i hope in best scenario sheared discussion we can come to some better understanding. I have always had a problem with Christianity when it said we were all born Sinners. Once i freed my self o...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: What gives salvation? Faith/Actions/Beliefs?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:57 am +0000 

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Lucifer's actions caused our world to be a "Sin" stricken planet, but that does not mean we Humans are sinners, or that we are running ramped doing sine. the section n the book about evil and sin is very clear that there is a distinction between the two, and it very much changes the way hu...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: What gives salvation? Faith/Actions/Beliefs?

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:30 pm +0000 

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I already knew before i started to type this that is might start something, but i could not let is go, Boom the U.B. is very clear about sin, and evil, much of what you said is evil not sin. Yes a person can do horrible evil and still not be sinning if they do not believe it to be so. God sees what ...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: What gives salvation? Faith/Actions/Beliefs?

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:04 am +0000 

Replies: 202
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Kicoverz why are you arguing this issue so strongly... So much has been said to settle this issue, is there a personal issue at hand here? As long as a person is alive they can change their out comes. But if by the time of death they have maintain their position of Sinning ( which is conscience choo...
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