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 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Super Human Authorship of the Urantia Book .

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:23 pm +0000 

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What strikes me is that TUB is compatible with all of them - once you look beyond the literal interpretation that some fundamentalist factions impose on their sacred texts. When you look at the real meaning behind the words, all of the religions that I know of, become genuine subsets of what TUB de...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Super Human Authorship of the Urantia Book .

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:34 am +0000 

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In fact, I don't care who wrote TUB, whether it was a human or a superhuman. What is important to me is what it says and that it works and it explains many of my personal experiencies, especially many with my Thought Adjuster. This is undeniable evidence (to me). I know a number of Evangelical Prot...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: The Urantia Book tells us nothing!

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:12 am +0000 

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Here's what TUB has to say on this subject (bolding mine): (416.6) 37:10.6 There are still other types of intelligent life concerned with the administration of a local universe, but the plan of this narrative does not provide for the further revelation of these orders of creation. Enough of the life...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Super Human Authorship of the Urantia Book .

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:24 am +0000 

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Let me reiterate my conviction about the UB : - that the authority of its super human authorship is enough compulsion for me to believe in God. Even a better reason to believe it is to find out that it works, i.e. when you start listening to your Thought Adjuster, Spirit of Truth and Holy Spirit, y...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: The Urantia Book tells us nothing!

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:48 am +0000 

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To be more specific regarding my original statement ("The Urantia Book tells us nothing!"): 1. The papers describing God and Trinity in general are very detailed and seem to tell much more than a mortal mind can really grasp. 2. The papers describing celestial governments are more general ...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Proving the existence of God

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:46 am +0000 

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J. Barry wrote:
the Reality that God can be know, and Experienced, is one of my active mission while i am alive to do so....

Indeed - experiencing God is the best "proof" we can get! In fact, it surpasses any proof and goes straight into our hearts.

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: The Urantia Book tells us nothing!

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:33 am +0000 

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slyde wrote:
A caterpillar will need to know caterpillar things. Hence the Urantia Book for us caterpillars.
A butterfly will need to know butterfly things. I guess we'll get that manual when we get there. 8)


Well said! Can't wait to see the butterfly manual (and get the butterfly body!)

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Why not just believe the Bible?

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:45 am +0000 

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I stick with the UB. I'm still recovering from the effects that the largely distorted, historically and conceptually inaccurate Bible has had on my spiritual and philosophical world view. It's amazing how much influence the fetishistic Bible has had on all aspects of Western civilization. Caino I a...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: The Urantia Book tells us nothing!

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:17 pm +0000 

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Since miracles are by definition exceptional events, it's clear that they can't be relied upon. I don't think we need the UB to tell us that. As for building faith upon them...I'm not clear on what this means. Does it mean, for example, that we should be spiritually unmoved by miracles? When people...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: The Urantia Book tells us nothing!

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:11 pm +0000 

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Okay, let's start with that. But don't stop there! Together the quotes that I chose tell one story: don't rely on miracles and don't build your faith on them. However, strong faith can actualize miraculous events - whether they be real miracles or just unexplained natural course of events, is of no...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: The Urantia Book tells us nothing!

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:57 pm +0000 

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Maybe in terms of religious significance - but not in terms of becoming a son of God and finding an eternal life. Pertti you can maybe rest a little easier at night knowing that all you need is a flicker of faith and you will be able to go to the mansion worlds in the next life :). You don't HAVE t...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: The Urantia Book tells us nothing!

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:52 pm +0000 

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boomshuka wrote:
We live within a finite womb I guess is another viewpoint to look at it, and urantia is a birthing planet of souls.


That's a good analogy: we are still in the (spiritual) womb in this life!

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Proving the existence of God

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:47 pm +0000 

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But people who have had powerful religious experiences seem to experience a change in worldview such that matters of verification lose significance. Not having had such an experience, I can't say for sure. Also, I don't see how it's possible to know that it's possible for anyone to have that kind o...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: The Urantia Book tells us nothing!

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:32 pm +0000 

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But having researched religious miracle cures and similar things, I find myself very confused about their significance. I would have hoped that the UB would have something to say that would make the meaning of these phenomena clearer. Oh, but it does : 88:2.2 Belief in relics is an outgrowth of the...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: The Urantia Book tells us nothing!

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:47 am +0000 

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ubizmo wrote:
As far as our current situation is concerned, I find that the UB does leave us in the dark about some things of religious significance that we might be concerned to know about.

Maybe in terms of religious significance - but not in terms of becoming a son of God and finding an eternal life.
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