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 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Goodness

 Post subject: Re: Goodness
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:11 pm +0000 

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… I'm not certain we can ever possess existential goodness as a personal experience. Existential goodness is something that belongs to the Father, which is why we are incapable of true goodness without him. Perhaps after fusion mortals can share something of the Father's existential goodness, but a...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Goodness

 Post subject: Re: Goodness
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:05 pm +0000 

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Thanks Agon D. Onter and Rexford. That makes sense. :) We seem to converge here on a common view of 'goodness' as portrayed in TUB. I now think that 56:10.12 can/must be read as follows: "Goodness [in mortal experience] is the mental recognition of the relative values of the diverse levels of [...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Goodness

 Post subject: Re: Goodness
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:40 pm +0000 

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… We grow in our ability to discover and recognize goodness as we grow in divinity status. … Yes. Our ability to recognize goodness is relative and progressive and personal (132:2.7) but that does not mean goodness itself is relative and progressive. Our perception/recognition of good and evil is r...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Goodness

 Post subject: Re: Goodness
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:02 pm +0000 

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My conception of the relativity of goodness is similar to the relativity of truth (and probably of beauty as well). If truth is relative, then goodness must be relative also. They are not entirely separable, as far as I understand it. Hm, as I understand 56:10.12, the values of the diverse levels o...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Goodness

 Post subject: Re: Goodness
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:27 pm +0000 

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… Goodness is the mental recognition of the relative values of the diverse levels of divine perfection. 56:10:12 Divine perfection has diverse levels and our recognition of the value of these levels is relative. Does that mean that goodness, like truth, is also relative? In other words, is my perce...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Light

 Post subject: Re: Light
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 10:56 am +0000 

Replies: 49
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By the way, I mentioned TUB’s notion that "gravity always acts preferentially in the plane perpendicular to the mass" to you here: Relativity and TUB . Again, this ultimately means that your consciousness can be understood as a periodic (discrete) sample or projection in three dimensions o...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Light

 Post subject: Re: Light
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 9:20 am +0000 

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MannyC - Repeating the same nonsense over and over is pointless and annoying and not in the interest of the forum. You don't help other readers or promote TUB in any way, on the contrary, I think you may confuse and deter new readers with your absurd claims regarding the science in the book. If this...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Light

 Post subject: Re: Light
Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:02 pm +0000 

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nodAmanaV wrote:
I see.
What do you see? Give me one clue as to why Louis' work might not be total nonsense..

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Light

 Post subject: Re: Light
Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:27 pm +0000 

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No I won't.. :mrgreen: But please feel free to present an explanation of why you think Louis' work is not total nonsense..

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Light

 Post subject: Re: Light
Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:07 pm +0000 

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It seems to me that if we accept the Urantia Book for what it is, an Epochal Revelation which reveals the truth, then we can comfortably take the quotes from the Urantia Book provided by Louis above as the direction our understanding of physical reality should go. Yes. And apart from the quotes pro...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Light

 Post subject: Re: Light
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:19 am +0000 

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Whatever makes you happy, MannyC. Apparently, the forum has become a place where any discussion of revelation in the context of world history and actual social/political developments will be locked, whereas this totally unintelligible and obviously unsupported nonsense regarding (physical) reality i...

 Forum: Questions & Answers   Topic: Does the Urantia Book Defend and Recommend Islam?

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:01 pm +0000 

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Well, religious living should basically be simple, don’t you think? Simply love your neighbor as you may love yourself. The golden rule! Then all else will more or less take care of itself.. O:)

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: First Light

 Post subject: Re: First Light
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:31 am +0000 

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MannyC - Even if you have any idea what you are talking about yourself (which I doubt), you must admit that you simply cannot explain to anyone else what your odd spiral has got to do with time-space. And you cannot answer the most obvious questions: If a spiral has anything to do with time-space, t...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: First Light

 Post subject: Re: First Light
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:32 pm +0000 

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Well, I never bought your phi-spiral theory and I don’t see how it can be of help in any way here. It’s not even a true spiral. And you don’t seem to pay attention to what others are saying at all. You just post the same apparent nonsense over and over, regardless of the topic at hand. Really, you m...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: First Light

 Post subject: Re: First Light
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:50 am +0000 

Replies: 86
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Odd question. As you say, you 'produce' the force; first you throw and then the top starts spinning.. And ultimately nothing happens simultaneously in our material experience. Remember that time appears to us as the linear sequence of events; exactly one (discrete/ultimatonic) event after another, e...
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