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 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Our abnormal planet

 Post subject: Re: Our abnormal planet
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:49 pm +0000 

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Why so deceitful? Every serious student of the UB (and Yoder is not one - the only voice in support of the bb) has agreed for 60 years that the BB theory is a false theoretical construct doomed to oblivion....and every single voice at the link provided AGREES with that conclusion, including Makalu,...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Our abnormal planet

 Post subject: Re: Our abnormal planet
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:16 pm +0000 

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Hello SEla! An interesting topic...but not topical to the discussion here. I will say that I believe that all personalities with free will are creative. Dook's limited perspective is that no being other than God "creates" anything at all or anything original. I can understand this point o...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Our abnormal planet

 Post subject: Re: Our abnormal planet
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:05 pm +0000 

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Maryjo started a topic six years ago about the James Webb Telescope and how it would support the ideas in the UB but she did not know that the entire big bang theory was based upon the 13.8 billion year number and that anything farther out than that would bring the theory down. Nor did anyone else ...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Our abnormal planet

 Post subject: Re: Our abnormal planet
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:56 pm +0000 

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You talk about all kinds of ideas but always within the context of the UB? If your child gets sick which page of the UB tells you what to do? If your car does not start which page of the UB tells you how to fix it? If there is a wild land fire coming towards your home which page of the UB tells you...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Our abnormal planet

 Post subject: Re: Our abnormal planet
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:19 pm +0000 

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I'll actually give you a hint about what you might be able to do. Since you have so much trouble with new ideas I have to go into detail to explain them. In 2021 the James Webb Telescope will reveal galaxies farther away than 13.8 billion years. The big bang theory will be thrown out. Sounds like a...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Our abnormal planet

 Post subject: Re: Our abnormal planet
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:05 am +0000 

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Yep, I agree, Bradly. And, you know, it's fine to come here with questions, doubts, or feelings of uncertainty about TUB (that's what the Skeptics Corner segment of the Board is proactively provided for). But if someone wishes to participate in this community discussion group and to share their dou...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Our abnormal planet

 Post subject: Re: Our abnormal planet
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:46 am +0000 

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Thanks for the clarification Dook. So your disappointment and dissatisfaction with universe reality is truly non-specific and generally distributed toward every level of creation. Got it! You disagree with God's plan of evolution and believe the universe and all its beings should come already evolv...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Our abnormal planet

 Post subject: Re: Our abnormal planet
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:26 am +0000 

Replies: 185
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Why do you feel you should have the power to control what other people say? Why do you feel anyone here is attempting to control what you or anyone else here says? By posting in a community forum you naturally subject your views to criticism. There is, perhaps, a partially unstated understanding th...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: The Science Thread

 Post subject: Re: The Science Thread
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:11 am +0000 

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Isn't time more fundamental than space? After all, the revelators state that space is measured by time. Time cannot be measured by space. This seems to hint that Special Relativity as described by Einstein and Minkowski is not correct, even if the physical effects of particles traveling rapidly are...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Our abnormal planet

 Post subject: Re: Our abnormal planet
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:28 pm +0000 

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It appears you don't know anything about the UB and do not wish to. Angels do not create. And you do not appear to know in whom you are disappointed and criticize....is it God the First Source and Center or is it the Michael Sons who create universes according to the creative mandates and limits of...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Offering a Different Perspective

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:21 pm +0000 

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You make declarations as if they are real. As I was told in the military years ago, "Can't means won't"! I work with a guy who says, "Can't never could" and "Won't never would". Your declarations presume inability. I suggest they reveal something else; something only y...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Our abnormal planet

 Post subject: Re: Our abnormal planet
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:15 pm +0000 

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So what you are really asking about is the material level of creation and mortal beings in particular? For the Michaels and the Supreme and all celestials created in time and space are not truly evolved either...they still require experience and potential error and less than perfect choices and out...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: The Science Thread

 Post subject: Re: The Science Thread
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:02 pm +0000 

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If what you say is true about time, then the formula T = D / S is rendered only partially true or pseudo or an illusion. However, we can accurately measure time based off that formula. I could concede to time as an integral part and product of the universe yet distinct and apart from it if time is ...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: The Science Thread

 Post subject: Re: The Science Thread
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:15 am +0000 

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Sometimes I wonder if scientists come up with these theories by using ancient metaphysical systems as a guide. In Qabbala, Jewish mysticism or metaphysics, there are 10 Sephirot + 1 = 11 Sephirot, which is the sum total of the universe. These Sephirot are also viewed as dimensions or planes of exis...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Offering a Different Perspective

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:04 am +0000 

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Dook, Your questions in bold my answers below them. What if God was not doing all these things in you? What if He never got involved in any way in your affairs or any human affairs? Please focus on number 4 below. He has never said, "I am God.", handed me his business card that said GOD o...
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