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 Forum: Questions & Answers   Topic: Why are we born here, now?

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 4:22 am +0000 

Replies: 19
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But since we start our journey on the evolutionary worlds and immediately move on to the mansion worlds, I don't understand how some beings get born in "light and life" and other get born in to the earlier or even messed up stages like Urantia is currently in. Can anyone help reconcile/in...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: The Adjuster Voice

 Post subject: Re: The Adjuster Voice
Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 4:12 am +0000 

Replies: 122
Views: 45027


I find it amusing how easily some folks pick and choose what parts of TUB they want to take literally and what parts they want to explain as metaphor. There are indeed many metaphors in TUB, but the still, small voice is not one of them.

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: A newbie!

 Post subject: Re: A newbie!
Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 4:00 am +0000 

Replies: 73
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Hi Larry, the newbie, Don't ever be ashamed of admitting you heard something. It's when you dare to speak for God or his agents in the first person that we'll start to worry about you. Plenty of us hear the still, small voice now and then, but most won't admit to it. For those who do, it's usually a...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: The Adjuster Voice

 Post subject: Re: The Adjuster Voice
Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:38 pm +0000 

Replies: 122
Views: 45027


This is a discussion board that attempts to follow the direction of the teachings of The Urantia Book. Nowhere that I am aware of are we directed to listen for a voice in our heads or to discourse on what we think our Adjuster is saying to us (TUB uses the term "the Adjuster's voice metaphoric...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: First Post

 Post subject: Re: First Post
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:16 am +0000 

Replies: 8
Views: 3725


Greetings Lisa and welcome. One of my questions is this. I have to work very hard to be a good person, always had. It shocked my husband when I told him this. Is this normal for a person who knows she loves God with all of her heart? It depends on what you mean by "good". If you are using ...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: spirt of the truth

 Post subject: Re: spirt of the truth
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:12 am +0000 

Replies: 15
Views: 7323


Hi Scott. The Spirit of Truth is a person. Relate to this person and you will know how to relate to all persons because he is the one who directs the loving contact between people. Let the Spirit of Truth guide not only your soul, but the soul of others. Leave the work to him and he will draw all so...

 Forum: Essays & Speeches   Topic: Unpredictable Mind and Creation

Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:03 am +0000 

Replies: 218
Views: 83291


The only thing that isn’t accounted for in any obvious way, is the individual freewill of personalities at all levels of subinfinite organization. “All reality has its origin in the infinite I AM”, thus (logically) individual freewill cannot exist in the model.. Which means, because the theory is f...

 Forum: Essays & Speeches   Topic: Unpredictable Mind and Creation

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 9:17 pm +0000 

Replies: 218
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Of course, we are not the substence of personality. Each of us is a composite of identies identified by a personality. Under the guidence of the indwelling Spirit, the personality+the living vehicle may learn to unify all the worthy identities. I'm not sure I'm following you TonyMa. Maybe it's the ...

 Forum: Essays & Speeches   Topic: Unpredictable Mind and Creation

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 3:54 pm +0000 

Replies: 218
Views: 83291


(Bart) I more or less regret my previous reply.. We had a good discussion on pattern and energy and personality. However, when you say that my term ‘energy-pattern’ means something different than ‘a pattern of energy’, I think that’s a bit far fetched and it distracts from the constructive discussio...

 Forum: Essays & Speeches   Topic: Unpredictable Mind and Creation

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 6:37 am +0000 

Replies: 218
Views: 83291


It certainly would be presumptuous of me to attempt to provide a definition of personality, but you all's in depth study has given me an idea. And that's it, that personality is an IDEA--or the projection of a unique concept. if this is so, then pattern does not configure personality, personality i...

 Forum: Essays & Speeches   Topic: Unpredictable Mind and Creation

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 5:51 am +0000 

Replies: 218
Views: 83291


No one can tell me anything new about absolute unity. And absolute unity is also the fundamental postulate of TUB. And you are an expert on TUB. So why don’t we understand each other? There lies the problem Bart, you've just answered your own question. Do you realize how presumptuous that statement...

 Forum: Essays & Speeches   Topic: Unpredictable Mind and Creation

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:33 pm +0000 

Replies: 218
Views: 83291


Hi Bonita, I wonder whether you ever took a close look at one of the fractal images I provided.. :) Dude, several times. What does that have to do with anything? I knew of fractal images years before you ever showed up here. You're missing the point entirely. I guess you are so in love with those i...

 Forum: Essays & Speeches   Topic: Unpredictable Mind and Creation

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:42 am +0000 

Replies: 218
Views: 83291


Bart, maybe you don't know this, but the use of a hyphen suggests that two words have a combined meaning. Energy is one thing, pattern is another, and the use of energy-pattern suggests that they are combined into a new entity with new meaning. TUB does not state that. All references are to energy p...

 Forum: Essays & Speeches   Topic: Unpredictable Mind and Creation

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 7:23 pm +0000 

Replies: 218
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Bart, I'm sorry, I can't find any evidence in TUB, whatsoever, that says that personality is energy-pattern. I'm afraid you might have made that up. :smile: No, I don’t think I made that up. It’s explicitely stated in TUB: (8.4) 0:5.4 All subinfinite orders and phases of personality are associative...

 Forum: Essays & Speeches   Topic: Unpredictable Mind and Creation

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 3:29 pm +0000 

Replies: 218
Views: 83291


Bart wrote:
I fully agree. Personality is not pattern nor energy; personality is energy-pattern... :)


Bart, I'm sorry, I can't find any evidence in TUB, whatsoever, that says that personality is energy-pattern. I'm afraid you might have made that up. :smile:
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