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 Post subject: Melchizadek and Abraham
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Oh my Lord, how I'm loving this fresh read through the Urantia Book.

Let me tell you (again) a little bit of this story.

I was introduced to the UB in 1971 and immediately knew this was it.
I've studied it, not particularly scholarly, but rather devotedly, for decades.
For nearly all my life this revelation has been the foundation of "my trip".

My favorite parts in the past have been Part IV, papers on the
Thought Adjusters, the history of civilization, the history of Urantia
and the very first papers, like The Universal Father.

Last October (2008) I decided to finally watch a copy of Mel Gibson's
The Passion of the Christ, which had been sitting on a shelf gathering dust.

As I watched it I wondered if that was how the UB portrayed it, the brutal
violence inflicted on Joshua ben.

It'd been awhile since I had read Part IV, the Life and Teachings of Jesus.
Did I forget? So I started in. And boy, am I glad I did. I got more out of this
reading of Part IV, start-to-finish, than all the readings over the 30 x years
before! Awesome.

I'm so grateful to reach another level of understanding and appreciation
of the greatest story ever told.

All this led to a decision to read the whole book again, methodically,
carefully, from cover to cover. I'm doing it slowly. Started in March and
am now on Paper 93, Machiventa Melchizadek.

In reading today I am really seeing the relationship between Machiventa and
Abraham...and the lineage so clearly. Of course this part of the story follows
The Origins of Worship; Early Evolution of Religion; The Ghost Cults; Fetishes,
Charms, and Magic; Sin, Sacrifice, and Atonement; Shamanism—Medicine
Men and Priests; The Evolution of Prayer; and The Later Evolution of Religion
It's incredible.

I am now understanding so much more fully the reason the Urantia Book papers
were presented in the order they were. The revelators themselves explain why...
but I am only now really seeing it.

Anyhow...I'm spouting, and why not. =)

The Wiki has a good entry on Melchizadek which I think would prove to be
especially interesting to anyone studying Paper 93.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melchizedek

There's considerable correlation with the UB's presentation and Wiki with small
facts. So it's worth a quick look at least. I am reluctant to cite Wiki articles
ad naseum, so you won't see me do this very often. =)

And here's a painting from that Wiki page, depicting Abraham and Melchizadek
(maybe this is already on Truth Book):

"The Meeting of Abraham and Melchizedek," an oil by Dieric Bouts the Elder, 1464–67 AD

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Be of good cheer and thanks for reading... =0

Russ


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In GOD We Live , breathe and have our being .

Hi My Brother Russ 8)
1st , thankz for shareing your insights and many talents here at
Truthbook . It IS Really amazeing how when we re read the
UB Papers, how we do allways seem to come away with fresh new insights , I Also AM '' .....so grateful to reach another level of understanding and appreciation
of the greatest story ever told.'' after each reading ... :idea:

Many years ago , yet it seems like yesterday , when i was on my knees in sincere prayer to the Father , Jesus and the Divine Mother Holy Spirit... for HELP ... That i was reborn anew in the Spirit ...
It was then that i started my path anew as a true and sincere Truth
seeker , to wherever it would take me , ... a wild rollercoaster ride
of esoteric , mystic , occult , cultic , Roseacrucian , fundie ,
Traditional , ... the world religions ... etcetera , ..etc .
to find the truth .

I was lead to thee Holy Bible ... and to its reading rereading and
daily study .... of it many pearls of wisdom .

Anyhow , it was This mysterious KING OF SALEM , IN The Bible And his meeting
with Father Abraham ... that had me searching far an wide to find
out more about him , his life , his teachings , ALL THE WHO , WHAT
WHERE AND WHYS ABOUT HIM .

THAT Search lead me to the Urantia Papers , wether i found it or it found me , is / another story ../
I Truely feel blessed to have the FER ... IN ... my hands and heart .

Its like a magnet to my hands , and a spiritual fountain of TRUTH
TO MY MIND , SOUL AN SPIRIT .

The papers about Melchizedek ... was just what i was looking for and much more than i ever dreamed of . IT blows my lil mind away .

I Need to set a Alarm or a Egg timer , as i start blabin on , too much .lol :shock: =; :-$

Also a note , that there is a Melchizedek Bible , i think from South Africa , ...

Also the ... Tao/ Dao teachings in the I Ching About the
Holy Trinity ... ARE ... Very similar as to the Tao Paper in the
UB .

Bro Russ , thankz for the link etc .
You da man .

Namastae

Faith son
Coop


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Hi Russ,

Great post. As is explained by the book, Parts I-III comprise the fifth epochal revelation; Part IV is a restatement of the fourth. We need to have an understanding and grounding in the fourth before the fifth can be fully understood and its value absorbed.

You didn't mention your evaluation of The Passion of Christ movie. I decided to see it, once was enough, but was coerced into watching it again with someone else so I saw it twice. I've heard people say they think depicting the agony Jesus experienced was unnecessary and they won't watch it. I say that despite coming from a Christian perspective this is a compellingly spiritual movie and that it truly "fleshes out" that moment in time when history was put on a new course. The event itself may well be required viewing on all the advanced worlds in Nebadon -- we have a movie that seems to be a substitution for that reality.

If you have the time and the desire to get further into the meanings and values of the fifth epochal revelation I can think of nothing more valuable, aside for your own reading and study, than to watch the videos of Chris Halvorson's weekly study group available at http://www.perfectinghorizons.org/ These videos didn't begin being produced until he was discussing Paper 57 in his sequential study and they are available only up to Paper 99 at this time but they are building a library of quality, in-depth Urantia Book study unlike anything that has been available before.

Best wishes,
Larry


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WOW awesome topic brother Russ!

Larry thank you so much for that link brother that is awesome! And I can view it at work :D :biggrin: :lol: :-s :-$ :-&

Brother Coop you are so awesome! I just love the cut of your jib!

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The Wiki has a good entry on Melchizadek which I think would prove to be
especially interesting to anyone studying Paper 93.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melchizedek

There's considerable correlation with the UB's presentation


Thanks for this link. Is anyone here adept at editing Wiki articles? I think it would be great to add a bit about the UB's perspective to this article. Here's what I propose:

Melchizedek in the Urantia Book
The Urantia Book [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urantia_Book], a purported divide revelation read by hundreds of thousand around the world, goes into detail about Melchizedek. The book claims he materialized on Earth as an adult, preached a single God, ministered to Abraham, and disappeared as miraculously as he appeared about 90 years later. The Urantia Book claims Mechizedek refers to a divine order of beings and the one who appeared on Earth is called Machiventa Melchizedek, and he choose to come to Earth to prepare the world for Jesus Christ.


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One wee typo there teacher son:

...a purported divine revelation....



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I just added the following. Let's see if it lasts.

Melchizedek in alternative texts
The Urantia Book devotes a dozen pages to details about Melchizedek. The book claims he materialized on Earth as an adult, preached a single God, ministered to Abraham, and disappeared as miraculously as he appeared about 90 years later. The Urantia Book claims "Melchizedek" refers to a divine order of beings with the one who appeared on Earth called Machiventa Melchizedek, and he came to prepare the world for Jesus Christ.


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TeacherSon1,

Our current running discussion on unity is also about the Melchizedek teachings as showing up in the eastern religions, the one we now know as Machiventa Melchizedek through the TUB.

I have been trying to point out that this is the very same "person" that is the coauthor of paper 56, Universal Unity.

Bob.


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Hello gentlemen & readers all:

By the time I was reading through UB my third time, I was so thrilled with paper 93 on Machiventa Mechizedek that I wrote an into to it which then leads into a seperated copy of the whole 93rd paper. I did this and have used it extensively as an outreach/intro tool to gain immediate attention and curiosity of a variety of the main Bible only Christian believers as the Bible says so little about who this Mechizedek really is. You can have this copy and use it as you wish for introductions as you feel led. Download it here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e4bdqjszhkfqt ... d.doc?dl=0

I know how hard it was for me to accept UB from my friend and give it any respect at all at first, given my strong Christian heritage so this is my little secret tool to get Bible only Christians to start to read UB. I have had very good success. I hope you do also.

God bless you. I am thrilled beyond expression that UB found me, in spite of myself. I wish to now tell the world!


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